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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2011, 05:36:56 PM »
We could have said the same thing about Obama about a year or so before he was elected president.  Both Hillary and Biden said he wasn't qualified.  Even Obama himself said he wasn't qualified. 
However, Obama is now president. That case is closed.

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Newt is extremely smart.  Brilliant politician.  Knows history.  Has been a leader.
What about Newt's academic achievements mark him as a man who is "extremely smart?"
If he is a "brilliant politician" why has he done such a colossally bad job of managing his political career progression? How can a man so "smart" have done so poorly in his personal life and career?
Why is Newt no longer a "leader?" Why is he a "has been" leader today?
 
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  What the last two years have shown is we can't put a man in the most powerful position on earth when he has never had a real job.  The Obama presidency has been a disaster. 

That is a personal opinion not born out by the facts. 2012 will be the referendum on whether the majority of voters agree with you.

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Yes Newt is fat and was an absolute hypocrite.  He was also Speaker of the House and led one of the greatest election efforts in history in 94. 
And Newt went on to lose that position and left political office as a disgrace. You need to tell the whole story. This isn't January 1995. It is February 2011.  ;)
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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2011, 05:48:09 PM »
However, Obama is now president. That case is closed.
What about Newt's academic achievements mark him as a man who is "extremely smart?"
If he is a "brilliant politician" why has he done such a colossally bad job of managing his political career progression? How can a man so "smart" have done so poorly in his personal life and career?
Why is Newt no longer a "leader?" Why is he a "has been" leader today?
   
That is a personal opinion not born out by the facts. 2012 will be the referendum on whether the majority of voters agree with you.
And Newt went on to lose that position and left political office as a disgrace. You need to tell the whole story. This isn't January 1995. It is February 2011.  ;)

Yes Obama is president, but the case isn't closed.  We will have a referendum in 2012.  I think it's pretty clear Obama has lost the independents and Republicans who put him in office.  I think the only way he stays in office is some kind of terrorist attack or new military action close to the election.  Both Bushes had extremely high approval ratings right after Gulf War I and 9/11.  Absent something like that, or some miraculous economic recovery, he is done.  And yes, this is my opinion.  Could be right, could be wrong.  We shall see. 

Actually you were not telling the whole story about Newt by saying this:  "his life can be summed up as one of a fat, immoral, douche bag."  Academically, he has a PhD.  Professionally, he served in Congress for 20 years and was Speaker of the House.  It's his personal life that results in a big failure.  The fact he was helping lead the charge in the Clinton impeachment nonsense while engaging in the very same conduct makes him a hypocrite of the highest order. 

But if you listen to the man talk about government, public policy, etc., it's pretty clear he knows his stuff.  Much better than our current president.  Also, his Contract With America concept was brilliant.  It's too bad he couldn't take care of his own house. 

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2011, 06:29:43 PM »
Benny - tell me one good thing obama has done that has performed as promised? 

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2011, 07:32:52 PM »
10 of those people wouldn't even make a decent VP on the ticket.

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2011, 10:17:07 AM »
Huntsman Allies Assemble Campaign, Need Candidate
Saturday, 26 Mar 2011

WASHINGTON (AP) — The campaign is revved and ready, a turn-key operation if there ever was one, with high-powered political strategists and big-time fundraisers who are more than eager to make a splash in the 2012 Republican presidential race as early as mid-May.

Now all they need is a candidate.

Or more precisely, a candidate named Jon Huntsman, who has suggested that he's open to running.

"We may have one final run left in our bones," President Barack Obama's ambassador to China told Newsweek late last year. Weeks later, he announced his departure this spring from the high-profile diplomatic post in a Democratic administration.

When he returns to Washington next month, the former Utah governor will have a full-fledged campaign-in-waiting at his disposal, built by supporters who insist they orchestrated it all without Huntsman's direction. Their theory: The wide-open Republican field has an opening for a former business executive who has adopted a series of moderate positions.

Money wouldn't be an issue. The one-time Mormon missionary to Taiwan would have access to a personal fortune and deep-pocketed Mormon donors.

His loyalty to the GOP would be an issue. Huntsman worked for Obama after a GOP career that included stints in Ronald Reagan's White House, as President George H.W. Bush's ambassador to Singapore and as President George W. Bush's trade envoy.

Several allies associated with Huntsman's recently created political action committee sketched out their thinking on the condition of anonymity because legal barriers prevent him from orchestrating a presidential bid while representing the United States in Beijing.

"There are a lot of limits on what you can and can't do with PACs — don't make any mistakes, keep your powder dry," said Peter Spaulding, a former top GOP elected official in New Hampshire and part of group of Huntsman backers who met in New Orleans recently to talk about a would-be campaign.

The telegenic former governor from a solidly conservative state long had been considered a serious potential challenger to Obama in 2012. The Democrats' political team sought to sideline Huntsman early, offering the Mandarin speaker the China job in 2009. He accepted. The White House was credited by insiders with vanquishing a GOP rival.

A year later, Huntsman bought a $3.6 million Washington mansion that most recently housed contestants on Bravo's "Top Chef" reality show, and he hinted at national aspirations in interviews.

Since then, strategist John Weaver, who directed Arizona Sen. John McCain's failed presidential campaign in 2000 and set up McCain's 2008 presidential operation before leaving when it went broke, has been overseeing the creation of Horizon PAC. Its website doesn't mention Huntsman, but includes a giant red letter "H."

It's essentially a shadow campaign for Huntsman. Supporters are not-so-quietly putting the pieces in place to be ready to move if Huntsman gives them a clear go-ahead.

They're floating a rationale for his candidacy.

— Huntsman could attract independents and centrists while the other candidates fight over — and split the vote of — conservatives who dominate GOP primaries. His support of civil unions for gay couples and belief in humans' role in climate change, not to mention his time in the Obama administration, could enrage the party's powerful right wing or alienate tea party voters.

—He would focus on states with nominating contests where non-Republicans are permitted to vote and where his moderate positions could be attractive. He'd likely skip conservative Iowa, where evangelicals likely would view his Mormonism skeptically. He'd play hard in New Hampshire, where cranky Yankees tend to favor fiscal conservatives and are generally agnostic on social issues. South Carolina, with an open primary, would get attention. So would Florida and Michigan.

They're testing messages.

—The Horizon PAC website suggests themes of service to country and solutions to the nation's ills. It says, "Maybe someday we'll find a new generation of conservative leaders. What happened to actual lasting solutions to problems?"

They're trying out comebacks for likely attacks.

—On Huntsman's link to Obama, they say Huntsman was serving his country, not a partisan administration, and he would be the best positioned to go head-to-head against his former boss. But Obama and top aides already are trying to make the relationship a liability for Huntsman, a taste of what's to come if he runs.

"During his tenure, Jon has been an outstanding advocate for this administration and for this country," Obama has said. The president also has joked that Huntsman "having worked so well with me will be a great asset in any Republican primary."

Weaver has spent the past few months recruiting and hiring experienced GOP talent, many of whom have never even met the ambassador, to study McCain's campaign against Obama and learn from it.

Weaver, who has worked for both Republican and Democratic candidates, has been leading daily strategy talks for a team that draws heavily from McCain's previous bids.

Hollywood-based ad maker Fred Davis and his Washington-based partner Brian Nick would help shape his image. Former Republican Rep. Tom Loeffler of Texas, one of the party's best fundraisers who helped McCain and then-Texas Gov. George W. Bush collect millions, has talked with his friends about money. Matt David, who worked on McCain's 2008 run, is the group's communications chief while fellow McCain alumni Jake Suski and Tim Miller are spokesmen.

It's not unheard of for an ambassador to figure prominently in presidential politics — or have a campaign ready for him.

In 1964, supporters of Henry Cabot Lodge, the U.S. ambassador to South Vietnam under President Lyndon B. Johnson, organized a write-in campaign that won him the New Hampshire GOP primary but little more. Lodge never returned to the United States, and Republicans ended up nominating Arizona Sen. Barry Goldwater.

A decade earlier, it was Lodge who orchestrated a similar shadow campaign for Dwight D. Eisenhower, who was leading NATO in Europe. Eisenhower ended up winning the 1952 Republican nomination; he returned to the United States to accept it and won the presidency as a first-time candidate.

"Everyone was waiting to find out whether Eisenhower was Republican or a Democrat," said Jeremy Mayer, an assistant professor at George Mason University who teaches on the American presidency. "When they found out he was a Republican, there was a campaign waiting for him."

Just like there's one for Huntsman.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/WaitingforHuntsman/2011/03/26/id/390807

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2011, 10:17:53 AM »
Huntsman is going nowhere.   

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2011, 10:21:08 AM »
I don't know much about him.  Will have to hear him speak, talk about the issues, see how much money he has (and can raise). 

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2011, 10:49:37 AM »
Huntsman is going nowhere.   

I disagree, my cue ball headed friend. 

Repubs are BEGGING for a quality candidate like Huntsman to be the dark horse out of the debate.   Given his background and experience, it's baffling to me - that you keep saying Trump this, trump that, then you say "Huntsman ain't going anywhere!"

The man is pretty much the candidate you wish you could design.  handsome, rich, experienced in executive, THE foremost national expert on chinese finance, and he's worked across the aisle.

Only a rabid, idiotic GOP base would hate on him because his president asked him to work with china to keep the nation afloat.  If you cawksoakers decide to put up a moron like Palin while shitting on huntsman, you deserve another 4 years of taking it up the rump from the kenyan.  You friggin' deserve every second of it.  You voted with your penises in 2008 and it cost you the white house.  Do it again bitches, nobody will be surprised.

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2011, 10:55:03 AM »
Huntsman's bro: 2012 might not be the year
By: CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

(CNN) - Supporters of Republican Jon Huntsman have all but put together a presidential campaign-in-waiting for the U.S. Ambassador to China when he officially leaves his post next month, but Huntsman's younger brother says 2012 might not be the right year.

Speaking to Bloomberg News, Peter Huntsman confirmed his older brother is definitely interested in a White House bid. But whether that means a campaign later this year has not been decided.

"He is interested at some point," the younger Huntsman said of his brother's presidential ambitions. "That's not necessarily in 2012."

Peter Huntsman, who at 48 is three years younger than his brother, is CEO of Huntsman Corp., a chemical company founded by their father which has made both men significantly wealthy. The younger Huntsman said he voted for President Obama in 2008 but suggested his brother would prove to be a formidable opponent.

"There is a real need in this country for a politician who can have a focus on economic progress and economic development and deficit reduction," he said.

Huntsman has told the Obama administration he will resign his post on April 30, and his advisers say a decision about the presidential race will come sometime this summer. Huntsman was in his second term as Utah governor when he stepped down in 2009 to become U.S. ambassador to China.

A string of veteran political hands led by former John McCain adviser John Weaver is laying the groundwork for a presidential campaign if Huntsman decides to run. The groups political action committee, Horizon PAC, is registered to an address on Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington and has hired communications staffers, a congressional liaison and a legal counsel.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/29/huntsmans-bro-2012-might-not-be-the-year/#more-151958

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2011, 12:16:44 PM »
I like Huntsman. Hoping that guy runs. He has all the qualities to pull in the independents that have been abandoning Obama.

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2011, 11:57:21 AM »

Barbour's wife 'horrified' at presidential prospects
By: CNN's Rebecca Stewart

(CNN)- The wife of Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour says she is "horrified" that her husband is seriously considering a bid for the presidency.

In an interview with CNN affiliate WLOX in Biloxi, Marsha Barbour admitted the "overwhelming" task of a presidential run is something she may not quite be ready for.

"It's been a lot to be first lady of the state of Mississippi and this would be 50 times bigger," she said. "It's a huge sacrifice for a family to make."

The governor is still testing the waters of a potential bid for the 2012 Republican nomination and has made no formal announcement regarding his intentions.

But Marsha Barbour revealed she is wary of a 10-year commitment she believes would accompany a presidential run - and, presumably, two terms in office - during "the last part of our productive lives."

Despite her hesitation, Barbour said that the final decision is up to her husband.

"That's a commitment that I am praying about," she said.

"And if God and Haley decide to do it, I'm sure God will give me strength to be a good partner."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/01/barbours-wife-horrified-at-presidential-prospects/

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2011, 12:00:08 PM »
Boss hog is going nowhere.

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2011, 12:34:36 PM »
Boss hog is going nowhere.

"boss hog" has held strong conservative beliefs for decades.

Your saviour Trump was screaming about his support for the assault weapons ban and the need for teh govt to handle universal healthcare just a few years ago.

But you'll vote for the LIB who will KEEP OBAMACARE and BAN RIFLES.  Why?  Geez, I have no clue why. 

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2011, 01:35:44 PM »
Huntsman heading to South Carolina in May
By: CNN Political Reporter Peter Hamby

Greenville, South Carolina (CNN) - Ambassador to China Jon Huntsman, a potential candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, will deliver a commencement address at the University of South Carolina on May 7, a university spokeswoman confirmed Friday.

It's Huntsman's second scheduled appearance in an early presidential primary state: the former Utah governor is also slated to deliver the commencement address at the University of Southern New Hampshire on May 21.

The speech to graduates of USC's Honors College and College of Arts and Sciences places Huntsman in the Palmetto State on the same week as the first GOP presidential primary debate, scheduled for May 5 in Greenville, as well as the South Carolina Republican Party's annual convention in Columbia.

But a source close to Huntsman's potential presidential campaign told CNN that it's unlikely he will participate in the debate. The source said, though, that no final decision will be made until he returns from China. Huntsman's stint as ambassador concludes on April 30.

If Huntsman does seek the GOP nomination, he will have a team in place in South Carolina, one of the first four states on the presidential primary calendar.

Longtime GOP strategist Richard Quinn, who steered Sen. John McCain's two presidential campaigns in South Carolina, is working for Huntsman's political action committee and has said he will support Huntsman if he runs.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/08/huntsman-heading-to-south-carolina-in-may/#more-153535

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2011, 01:51:52 PM »
What is President Monson's position on Romney and Huntsman both running for President (under the real President)?

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2011, 01:55:59 PM »
It's a sad reflection on our society that Sarah is even remotely considered electable  :-X

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2011, 02:40:11 PM »
I would like to see her in live debates
Soo much fun

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2011, 02:43:49 PM »
I would like to see her in live debates
Soo much fun

Compared to Obama she will seem like Margarat Thatcher.  Obama now has a disastrous record of unmitigated failure he cant lie about like last time.     

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #44 on: April 08, 2011, 02:54:03 PM »
Compared to Obama she will seem like Margarat Thatcher.  Obama now has a disastrous record of unmitigated failure he cant lie about like last time.     

Im not so sure. He is a corrupt dirtbag but i think he can sweet talk a lot of people

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #45 on: April 08, 2011, 02:58:05 PM »
I would like to see her in live debates
Soo much fun

Check youtube.  Plenty of debate coverage.  She's actually very good in debates. 

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #46 on: April 08, 2011, 02:58:51 PM »
Im not so sure. He is a corrupt dirtbag but i think he can sweet talk a lot of people

i'm not so sure about that.  Even in harlem during his last 30k per plate fundraiser - main on the street interviews sounded like me.   They were pissed off!  

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #47 on: April 08, 2011, 03:50:22 PM »
They left out Bachmann, Trump, Cain, and Gary Johnson, WTF? 

Here's my breakdown:
Thune voted for TARP so he's garbage in my book. 
Romney likes universal healthcare so he's out,
Huckabee is an evangelical so he's out,
is not experienced or intelligent enough,
Newt has too much sex scandal baggage
Huntsman supports cap and trade and Obama's scamulus package, totally out
Santorum is too socially conservative and won't get independent votes.
Pawlenty is too boring I guess but at least he can balance a budget


Ron Paul and Jim DeMint seem like the best hope to beat Obama.
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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #48 on: April 08, 2011, 11:43:35 PM »
Thune voted for TARP so he's garbage in my book. 
Romney likes universal healthcare so he's out,
Huntsman supports cap and trade

palin supported tarp AND capping emissions - but she's not out?
Trump LOVES univ healthcare - but he's not out?

Dude, you're so inconsistent.

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #49 on: April 09, 2011, 07:52:34 AM »
palin supported tarp AND capping emissions - but she's not out?
Trump LOVES univ healthcare - but he's not out?

Dude, you're so inconsistent.

Oh my bad dude, I didn't even consider Palin as a candidate b/c she is so unelectable.  I forgot to put on her on list as out of the question.  Palin is probably the worst out of all of them.   
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