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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #200 on: June 09, 2011, 05:51:30 AM »
Ann must be a chubby chaser.   
and refuses to talk about her personal life....now, there is where the REAL story is !
Three failed engagements; three men changed their minds ?  Inquiring minds want to know more!
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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #201 on: June 13, 2011, 08:00:42 PM »
Haven't watched it yet, but here is a decent summary:

Bachmann, Romney Shine as GOP Debate Stays Civil

Monday, 13 Jun 2011

MANCHESTER, N.H. — Republican White House hopefuls condemned President Barack Obama's handling of the economy from the opening moments of their first major debate of the campaign season Monday night, and pledged emphatically to repeal his historic year-old health care overhaul.

"When 14 million Americans are out of work we need a new president to end the Obama Depression," declared former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, the first among seven contenders on stage to criticize the president's economic policies.

Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota, invited as an unannounced contender for the 2012 nomination, upstaged her rivals for a moment, using a nationwide television audience to announce she had filed papers earlier in the day to run — a disclosure in keeping with a feisty style she has employed in a bid to become a favorite of tea party voters.

Obama was hundreds of miles away on a day in which he blended a pledge to help companies create jobs in North Carolina with a series of campaign fundraisers in Florida. He won the two states in 2008, and both figure to be battlegrounds in 2012.

The New Hampshire event unfolded more than six months before the state hosts the first primary of the 2012 campaign, and the Republicans who shared a stage were plainly more interested in criticizing Obama than one another.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who first sought the nomination in 2008, was the nominal front-runner as the curtain rose on the debate. But the public opinion polls that made him so are notoriously unreliable at this point in the campaign, when relatively few voters have begun to familiarize themselves with their choices.

Already, this race has had its share of surprises.

Several likely candidates decided not to run — Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour and Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels among them — and at least one who ruled out a race is reconsidering. Texas Gov. Rick Perry has said he will decide after the state Legislature completes its current session, and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's plans are still unknown.

Gingrich, quick off the mark in attacking Obama, suffered the mass exodus of the entire top echelon of his campaign last week, an unprecedented event that left his chances of winning the nomination in tatters.

All seven flashed their anti-abortion credentials, and were largely unified in opposition to same-sex marriage, which is legal in New Hampshire.

Several praised a proposed amendment to the U.S. Constitution that would define marriage as between one man and one woman, a position popular among conservative voters. Bachmann said she supported that, but she added that states have the right to write their own laws and said that if elected president, she would not step into state politics — a nod to tea partyers who cherish the Constitution's 10th Amendment.

Obama's rivals found little if anything to like in what the president has done since taking office in the midst of the worst economic recession since the Great Depression.

Former Sen. Rick Santorum accused Obama of pursuing "oppressive policies" that have shackled the economy.

Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty labeled Obama a "declinist" who views America "as one of equals around the world," rather than a special nation.

"If Brazil can have 5 percent growth, if China can have 5 percent growth, then America can have 5 percent growth," he added, shrugging off criticism that his own economic projections were impossibly rosy.

Businessman Herman Cain, a political novice, called for eliminating the capital gains tax as a way to stimulate job creation.

Romney stressed his experience as a businessman over 25 years as evidence that he can lead the nation out of a lingering recession.

Said Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, the seventh contender on the stage: "As long as we are running a program that deliberately weakens our currency, our jobs will go overseas. And that's what's happening."

As front-runner of a sort, Romney could well have expected criticism from his rivals.

But Pawlenty, a few feet away on the debate stage, at first sidestepped a chance to repeat his recent criticism of Romney in connection with the Massachusetts health care law that Romney signed as governor. It includes a requirement for residents to purchase coverage, a forerunner of the "individual mandate" that conservatives loath in the new federal law.

"My using 'Obamneycare' was a reflection of the president's comments," Pawlenty said, referring to a word he coined in a Sunday interview.

Bachmann — newest to the race — drew one of the loudest rounds of applause Monday night from a partisan debate audience when she predicted that Obama would not win re-election. He is "a one-term president," she declared.

Instead, the most conservative presidential field in memory all but said what Ronald Reagan once preached — that government was the problem.

Romney said the auto bailout was a mistake, and said more generally, "Instead of thinking in the federal budget what should we cut, we should ask ourselves the opposite question, 'What should we keep?'"

Santorum criticized the financial bailout that Presidents George W. Bush and Obama backed, and Bachmann said she had worked in closed-door meetings in Congress to defeat the legislation when it was originally passed.

Pawlenty said politicians had caused the housing price bubble that contributed to the recession, and Paul blamed the recession on the Federal Reserve.

"As long as we do what we're doing in Washington it's going to last another 10 years," Paul said. "What we're doing now is absolutely wrong," he said of federal programs meant to support the housing industry.

Even when they differed, the White House hopefuls did so in muted terms.

Santorum said he wholeheartedly supported Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan's proposal to turn Medicare into a program in which the government subsidizes beneficiaries who would seek coverage from private insurance companies. Under the current system, the government pays doctors and other health care providers directly.

Pawlenty said he would have a plan of his own that shared some features with Ryan's but would differ on other points.

The program's finances are perilous, and Republican calls for fundamental change are at the heart of a roiling debate in Congress that is expected to extend into the 2012 campaign for the White House and both houses of Congress.

Cain bluntly told one questioner he was unlikely ever to receive in benefits from the money he has paid in through payroll taxes during his working life.

Gingrich, who was attacked by fellow conservatives when he criticized Ryan's proposal for being mandatory, said, "When you're dealing with something as big as Medicare ... you better slow down. ... If you can't convince the American people it's a good idea, maybe it's not a good idea."

Gingrich, Bachmann, Romney and Pawlenty all pledged to seek repeal of the health care law that Obama won from Congress earlier in his term. The others on stage hold the same position.

Romney and Paul both said the United States should withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan, but disagreed on a timetable.

Romney said that generals in Afghanistan should guide the pullout schedule of American troops based on conditions on the ground. He said the troops should come home as soon as possible under those conditions. Paul said the president must tell generals what to do. He said if he were president he would begin withdrawing troops almost immediately. He said the United States has no purpose fighting a war in Afghanistan.

Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman did not participate in the event. He is expected to announce his candidacy within a few weeks.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/RepublicansDebate/2011/06/13/id/399913

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #202 on: June 14, 2011, 09:25:11 AM »
Utah governor Huntsman getting into GOP race
By Philip Elliott
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POSTED: 05:52 a.m. HST, Jun 14, 2011

MANCHESTER, N.H.  >> Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, a Republican who until the spring served as President Barack Obama's ambassador to China, is running for president, officials said today.

The Republican planned to formally announce his intentions June 21 at Liberty State Park in New Jersey, with the Statue of Liberty in the background, these officials familiar with Huntsman's thinking told The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity to avoid publically pre-empting Huntsman. He was set to suggest as much later today in an appearance in New York City.

Huntsman, a little-known two-term governor from a conservative state whose moderate stances on some issues and service under the Democratic president could inflame the Republican Party's right-leaning base, enters a GOP presidential field that's taking shape by the week.

Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann announced her candidacy on Monday in New Hampshire during a seven-candidate debate in which Huntsman did not participate. He had said he would not participate in debates until he made a final decision about a White House run.

Even so, his entrance into the race has been all but certain for weeks.

Since returning from China over a month ago, Huntsman has focused heavily on laying the groundwork for a full-fledged candidacy. Last weekend, he made his third trip to New Hampshire and he has been building a national campaign to be based in Orlando, Fla.

Huntsman's campaign kickoff was set to begin next Tuesday at the northern New Jersey park where President Ronald Reagan began his 1980 White House run, the officials said, noting Huntsman worked as a staff assistant in the Reagan White House. From there, Huntsman would then travel to New Hampshire and Florida, a perennial battleground and host of the 2012 GOP nominating convention. Then he plans stops in his home state of Utah and then in the early caucus state of Nevada.

Over the past few weeks, Huntsman has honed a message of service to country and called for civil political discourse. In a field lacking deep foreign policy credentials, Huntsman is pitching himself as a politician with international experience who would help the United States' economy rebound. It's an attempt to appeal to segments of the GOP that care both about foreign policy and domestic prosperity.

The telegenic former governor from a solidly conservative state also has a ready fundraising apparatus. He's personally wealthy and could dip into that fortune for a run. He also has strong ties to the Mormon community, which has shown a willingness to support politicians who are of their faith.

Still, Huntsman's challenges are great.

Although he has served in three Republican administrations, Huntsman also served in Obama's administration and that is certain to irk GOP primary voters, many of whom loathe the Democratic president. The Republican has argued that he put service to his country over his personal political ambitions and suggested that he should get credit for doing so.

"Accepting an assignment from everyone's president during a time of war, during a time of economic hardship is putting your country first," Huntsman has said. "I won't shy away from that ... If someone wants to hold that against me, they can."

Huntsman also is not well-known. He ranks in the single digits in early national polls as well as surveys in early nominating states. But many GOP primary voters are undecided and many conservatives are looking for an alternative to front-runner Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor who is attempting his second bid for the GOP nomination.

While Huntsman's record on abortion and gun rights is solidly conservative, his positions on climate change and civil unions for same-sex couples are not. As governor, he backed bills providing civil rights protections to gays and lesbians, and he has said humans have had a role in climate change.

Huntsman's Mormon faith also is a hurdle in key nominating states. Romney — a fellow Mormon — discovered as much during his failed 2008 bid. He couldn't persuade evangelical voters who dominate Iowa and South Carolina to overlook their skepticism of his faith.

Huntsman already has said he would bypass Iowa, which holds the lead-off caucuses in February of 2012 and where Christian conservatives have serious influence. Instead, Huntsman's campaign would begin in New Hampshire, where independent voters can cast ballots in either party's primary and are the state's largest political bloc.

From here, Huntsman would compete in South Carolina and Florida in hopes of building momentum and stripping Romney of his front-runner status.

Huntsman long had been considered a serious potential challenger to Obama in 2012. The Democrats' political team sought to sideline Huntsman early, offering Huntsman, a speaker of Mandarin, the China job in 2009. He accepted. The White House was credited by insiders with vanquishing a GOP rival.

But a year later, Huntsman bought a $3.6 million Washington mansion that most recently housed contestants on Bravo's "Top Chef" reality show, and he hinted at national aspirations in interviews. By winter, Huntsman had submitted his resignation, which took effect in the spring.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/123826644.html

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #203 on: June 14, 2011, 02:02:13 PM »
A Democrat's view of the debate:

Schoen: Romney , Bachmann Won, Pawlenty Angling for Romney VP
Tuesday, 14 Jun 2011
By David A. Patten

Democratic pollster, author, and Fox News contributor Doug Schoen slammed former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty’s performance in New Hampshire on Monday, calling it “tepid,” and declared former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and GOP Rep. Michele Bachmann the big winners in the debate.

Pundit Schoen said Bachmann won the “primary-within-the-primary” debate over which grass-roots conservative candidate would emerge as Romney’s No. 1 challenger for the nomination.

In an exclusive interview, Schoen told Newsmax.TV: “The big winners were Mitt Romney the establishment candidate, who came through largely unscathed, and Michele Bachmann, who appeared for the time being to win the primary-within-the-primary, to be the alternative, hopefully within her mind, tea party candidate to establishment candidate Mitt Romney.

Schoen said Romney turned in an impressive performance and “was most presidential.”

“I think Mitt Romney was most presidential,” Schoen said, adding that he had met the high expectations he faced as the favorite of the GOP establishment coming into the debate. “But in a climate of dissatisfaction, where people are angry at the established order, that’s a double-edged sword.

“And I think Michele Bachmann demonstrated that she has the energy, the enthusiasm, and arguably the message to take the fight directly to the former Massachusetts governor.”

One candidate who surprisingly shied away from going toe-to-toe with Romney was Pawlenty, who just a day before pointed out that President Barack Obama linked Romney’s healthcare reforms with the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act that is the president’s signature piece of legislation.

On Fox News Sunday, Pawlenty called the reforms “Obamneycare.” But he refused to use that label again Monday. Schoen said Pawlenty had two very good weeks leading up to the debate, but may well have been hurt Monday by what he called a “tepid performance.”

“It suggested to me that he may have been running for president on Sunday, and decided on Monday night that he was preserving his options to be a vice presidential candidate on a Romney ticket,” Schoen said. “No other way to explain it, because given the similarities between Romneycare and Obamacare, it’s hard to understand why the self-described ‘truth teller’ didn’t continue to offer a consistent message.”

Schoen added that despite a solid debate performance former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has a way to go to reconnect with GOP voters, following a rough start to his campaign.

“His support has dropped precipitously in the last month or month and a half as he’s lost his staff and as he criticized the Ryan plan,” Schoen said. “I don’t think he did himself any additional harm, but I’m not sure he turned around what is an increasingly dire situation.”

Other highlights from the exclusive Newsmax interview with Schoen:

• In the past Mitt Romney has been “out of synch” with the GOP base. “And it remains to be seen whether he can continue to avoid the kind of scrutiny that I think many expected him to get last night, but just didn’t happen,” he said.

• He was disappointed that former Godfather’s Pizza CEO Herman Cain, considered the winner of the first debate in South Carolina, turned in an uneven performance. “I had thought that this was Herman Cain’s opportunity to bat a thousand and go two for two,” said Schoen.

“Regrettably for him, I don’t think he achieved that goal. I think Herman Cain may well have been the loser in the debate, and lost at the expense of Michele Bachmann.

• Republicans would probably do well to avoid suggesting that Muslims, or any other ethnic group, need special scrutiny.

“It’s one thing to subject people to reasonable levels of scrutiny across the board, that’s the American way,” he said. “But to decide on the basis of religion or national origin that people deserve extra scrutiny, that’s not quite American. And I think the candidates were struggling on how to get that right. It’s still a work in progress.”

• He’s growing skeptical libertarian-leaning Republican Rep. Ron Paul of Texas can broaden his base of support: “He’s always had 10 percent. He sort of had it last time, he’s got it this time. It’s a militant, activated 10 percent. But I’m hard pressed to see how his pure libertarian message can in any way be broadened -- could happen, but I think increasingly unlikely.”

• The only path to the White House he sees for former GOP Sen. Rick Santorum is if social issues take center stage in the primary. “If for some reason abortion and gay marriage become the top issue to primary voting Republicans maybe Rick Santorum can win” Schoen said. “But in the absence of that, and I think with the economy in as bad shape as it is, that’s unlikely as well. I don’t see Rick Santorum doing anything more than being a candidate for a position in the next administration, or perhaps an ambassadorship.”

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/DougSchoen-MittRomney-MicheleBachmann-TimPawlenty/2011/06/14/id/400008

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #204 on: June 14, 2011, 02:45:34 PM »
pawlenty was such a little brown noser.

no spine at all.  I can see attacks being off limit, that's fine.  But don't talk shit on Sunday morning talk shows, then be scared to say it to Mitt's face the next day.

Romney looked presidential.  Bachmann kicked ass.  Cain and Paul didn't get enough attention but had good answers.  Santorum looked surprisingly good.  Newt was smart and didn't appear rattled despite his staff leaving.  TPaw sucks.

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #205 on: June 16, 2011, 07:49:44 AM »
Romney, Bachmann, Cain Lead The Pack Among GOP Primary Voters
Rasmussen Reports ^ | June 16, 2011 | Rasmussen Reports


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Romney, Bachmann, Cain Lead The Pack Among GOP Primary Voters
Thursday, June 16, 2011

Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney continues to lead the race for the Republican nomination, but Michele Bachmann has surged into second place following her Monday night entry into the campaign.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely GOP Primary Voters, taken following the candidates’ Monday night debate, shows Romney earning 33% support, with Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann a surprise second at 19%. Georgia businessman Herman Cain is in third place with 10% of the vote.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich picks up nine percent (9%) support, followed by Texas Congressman Ron Paul with seven percent (7%), ex-Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty at six percent (6%) and former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum also earning six percent (6%). Former Utah Governor Jon Huntsman, who did not participate in the debate but is expected to announce his candidacy on Tuesday, gets two percent (2%) of the vote. Eight percent (8%) prefer some other candidate. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Romney and Bachmann are tied among primary voters who say they are Tea Party members, with 26% support each. Romney holds a 36% to 16% lead over the congresswoman among non-members. Most primary voters regard all the candidates with the exception of Huntsman as conservative, but Bachmann is seen as the most conservative.

In late April, billionaire developer Donald Trump led the pack with 19% support, followed by Romney at 17% and former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee with 15%. Trump and Huckabee have since announced that they are not running. Bachmann was the leader among the second-tier candidates at that time.

The survey of 1,000 Likely GOP Primary Voters was conducted on June 14, 2011 by Rasmussen Reports. Likely GOP Primary Voters include both Republicans and unaffiliated voters likely to vote in a GOP Primary. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

For the third week in a row, a generic Republican candidate leads President Obama in a hypothetical 2012 election matchup. But while 54% of Likely Voters nationwide think Obama is qualified to be president, Romney is the only 2012 Republican hopeful that a sizable number of voters feel that way about.

There is little difference of opinion among male and female GOP primary voters, although women give Romney slightly more support. The gap between Romney and Bachmann is narrowest among middle-aged primary voters.

Romney, Bachmann and Cain earn 31%, 22% and 12% support respectively among primary voters who describe themselves as conservatives. Romney runs strongest among party moderates.

Seventy-five percent (75%) of primary voters describe Bachmann as at least somewhat conservative. That includes 55% who say she is Very Conservative.

By contrast, 61% rate Romney as at least somewhat conservative, but that includes just 11% who say he is Very Conservative. Fifty-seven percent (57%) think Cain is at least somewhat conservative, with 32% who view him as Very Conservative.

Gingrich is seen as at least somewhat conservative by 68% of likely primary voters, with 35% who feel he is Very Conservative. Similarly, 63% say Paul is at least somewhat conservative, including 39% who think he is Very Conservative. Pawlenty is seen as at least somewhat conservative by 59%, but only 19% say he’s Very Conservative.

Fifty-eight percent (58%) think Santorum is at least somewhat conservative, including 30% who view him as Very Conservative. Just 31%, however, say Huntsman is at least somewhat conservative, with seven percent (7%) who rate him Very Conservative. Another 20% characterize him as a moderate, but a sizable 40% don’t know enough about him to venture any kind of opinion of his political views.

Huntsman is the least known of the declared or soon-to-be declared candidates.


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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #206 on: June 16, 2011, 11:10:39 AM »
...and yet,
if I were going to vote GOP, Huntsman would be someone i'd consider...
go figure.
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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #207 on: June 16, 2011, 01:57:48 PM »
i'd vote for huntsman or bachmann.  Both are competent and will steer the country in a better direciton.

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #208 on: June 18, 2011, 10:40:46 AM »
I don't agree with this pledge, because there shouldn't be a litmus test for judicial appointees (even though there is).  Cain refused to sign too. 


Santorum hits back at Romney over abortion pledge

By: CNN Political Unit

(CNN) - Well, it didn’t take long for the gloves to come off in this fight.

Rick Santorum, the Pennsylvania senator and now presidential candidate, has some tough criticism for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney after his refusal to sign an anti-abortion pledge.

"This past Monday night at the Republican presidential debate, I was asked about Gov. Romney's pro-life conversion, and I gave him the benefit of the doubt,” Santorum said. “I apparently spoke too soon. It is incredibly disappointing that Gov. Romney chose not to defend those who cannot defend themselves.”

Romney’s campaign called the Susan B. Anthony List’s pledge “well-intentioned” but said that while he is opposed to abortion rights, he didn’t “feel he could in good conscience sign it.”

The pledge would require Romney, if elected, to "permanently end all taxpayer funding of abortion," defund Planned Parenthood, and appoint abortion opponents to the federal bench and Cabinet positions.

Rep. Michele Bachmann, Rep. Ron Paul, Gov. Tim Pawlenty, Newt Gingrich and Santorum each signed the pledge.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/18/santorum-hits-back-at-romney-over-abortion-pledge/

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #209 on: June 18, 2011, 11:47:56 PM »
i'd vote for huntsman or bachmann.  Both are competent and will steer the country in a better direciton.
;D  I see what you did there.

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #210 on: June 19, 2011, 11:21:05 AM »
June 18, 2011 6:39 PM
Winners and losers at the Republican Leadership Conference
By Brian Montopoli

NEW ORLEANS -- The Republican Leadership Conference - a gathering of conservative and Republican activists that doubles as a cattle call for Republican presidential candidates - wrapped up here Saturday afternoon.

Three of the major GOP candidates - Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty and Jon Huntsman - did not speak at the conference. (Huntsman had planned to speak but dropped out at the last minute, citing a cold.) But a number of candidates - including Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul and Rick Santorum - did address conference-goers.

So what impact did the three-day confab have on GOP landscape? Let's take a look at the winners and losers:

Winners:

Jon Huntsman: Despite missing the conference - his wife and daughter came in his place but did not speak - former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman finished a strong second in the presidential straw poll.

It was rumored that Huntsman's campaign bought tickets for and bussed in a number of college Republicans to up his vote, and his campaign did not deny as much to CBS News.

If true, it might not matter: The headlines out of the conference will be Huntsman's stronger-then-expected showing among the conservative activists who are believed to view him warily because of his centrist positions on immigration, cap-and-trade legislation and gay rights. And that will serve as a signal to potential donors and the GOP establishment that he may be a viable standard-bearer for the party.

Michele Bachmann: The three-term Congresswoman came into the conference with momentum from her widely-hailed performance in Monday's presidential debate, and she carried it through the conference, giving a well-received speech and finishing third in the straw poll.

Bachmann, who cast herself as the voice of the people, has over the past week effectively transformed herself into the standard-bearer for the hardcore social and fiscal conservatives who are seeking an alternative to establishment candidates like Romney and Pawlenty. When the controversial, media-savvy representative first made it known she was considering a run, the media and GOP establishment responded with skepticism; Now she's being taken seriously and looks like a frontrunner to win the Iowa caucuses.

Rick Perry: The Texas governor didn't participate in the straw poll - even though he has made it known that he is considering a (relatively) late entry into the presidential race. But that didn't matter: With many Republicans still casting about for a consensus candidate, the buzz around a possible Perry run is undeniable.

Perry made a play for the unblinking ideologues on the right, calling for Republicans not to apologize for strong conservative positions. While that position could cause trouble in a general election, it's one that could help him quickly catapult to the top of GOP polls if he ends up entering the race.

Herman Cain: Cain, the breakout star in the GOP field following the first GOP debate, took a bit of a hit as a result of his lackluster performance in the second debate. But he was triumphant here, getting a rapturous reception at a conference where he was largely ignored last year.

While Cain remains a long shot for the nomination, he was one of only four candidates to win more than 100 voters in the straw poll - and his background - he is a businessman who never served in office - was often cited positively by conference-goers who like his outsider status. Plus, he even picked up an endorsement here from Republican mini-icon (and most famous failed Alabama Agriculture Commission candidate in history) Dale Peterson.

Ron Paul: Paul, as expected, won the straw poll thanks to the passionate support of his limited following. And while he remains a long shot for the nomination, his continued success at conferences like this ensures that his Libertarian beliefs will be well represented in the nomination fight.

Losers:

Newt Gingrich: The former House speaker could have rebooted his disastrous campaign here. Instead he doubled down, vowing to ignore the accepted strategies to winning the nomination. Gingrich promised to avoid sound bites and attack ads in favor of a "big philosophical campaign" that, it appears, prioritizes long, ideas-filled speeches over campaigning and organization.

And while, as he put it, he could potentially "shock the media" - and the Republican establishment - by winning this way, his speech was unlikely to win back any of the potential donors scared off by his stumbling campaign rollout and subsequent staff exodus.

Mitt Romney: Romney won the straw poll here last year but finished a disappointing fifth this year. That was somewhat mitigated by the fact that the former Massachusetts governor is skipping straw polls this year and he had no real presence here. But a fifth-place finish is not impressive for a nominal frontrunner, and suggests that the race remains far more wide-open then he might like.

Tim Pawlenty: Pawlenty, who has been seeking to cast himself as the establishment alternative to Romney, finished ninth in the straw poll with just 18 votes. And even worse, he was mocked from the podium by an Obama impersonator.

The impersonator mentioned Pawlenty's strange decision to back away at Monday's debate from his coinage of the term "Obamneycare" to link Romney to the federal health care law. Referencing Pawlenty, the impersonator quipped that "spine transplants" are covered under the health care law - prompting guffaws from the audience.

Sarah Palin: Palin had her hardcore supporters here, who carried signs and pins expressing their continued allegiance to the former Alaska governor. But she seems to be fading as a potential candidate; Bachmann appears to be supplanting her as the favorite of Tea Party- and social conservative-types seeking a champion. Palin got just 41 votes in the straw poll; that's the sort of finish that suggests the activists aren't exactly clamoring for her to enter the race.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20072308-503544.html

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #211 on: June 20, 2011, 10:51:08 AM »
I don't agree with this pledge, because there shouldn't be a litmus test for judicial appointees (even though there is).  Cain refused to sign too. 


Santorum hits back at Romney over abortion pledge

By: CNN Political Unit

(CNN) - Well, it didn’t take long for the gloves to come off in this fight.

Rick Santorum, the Pennsylvania senator and now presidential candidate, has some tough criticism for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney after his refusal to sign an anti-abortion pledge.

"This past Monday night at the Republican presidential debate, I was asked about Gov. Romney's pro-life conversion, and I gave him the benefit of the doubt,” Santorum said. “I apparently spoke too soon. It is incredibly disappointing that Gov. Romney chose not to defend those who cannot defend themselves.”

Romney’s campaign called the Susan B. Anthony List’s pledge “well-intentioned” but said that while he is opposed to abortion rights, he didn’t “feel he could in good conscience sign it.”

The pledge would require Romney, if elected, to "permanently end all taxpayer funding of abortion," defund Planned Parenthood, and appoint abortion opponents to the federal bench and Cabinet positions.

Rep. Michele Bachmann, Rep. Ron Paul, Gov. Tim Pawlenty, Newt Gingrich and Santorum each signed the pledge.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/18/santorum-hits-back-at-romney-over-abortion-pledge/

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #212 on: June 20, 2011, 10:51:55 AM »
Romney is my least favorite of all of them. 


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« Reply #213 on: June 20, 2011, 11:22:35 AM »
Romney is my least favorite of all of them. 



did you feel this way in 2008, when his positions were idential and you voted for him?

or was it just your OWN political views shifted from RINO to TEA PARTY in the last 3 years?  And if so, was it because FOX told you to?

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« Reply #214 on: June 20, 2011, 11:23:54 AM »
did you feel this way in 2008, when his positions were idential and you voted for him?

or was it just your OWN political views shifted from RINO to TEA PARTY in the last 3 years?  And if so, was it because FOX told you to?

At the time of the NY primary it was really between McPofs and Romney and i thought romneys' business experience was better than McCain's amnesty and other bs.   

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« Reply #215 on: June 20, 2011, 11:26:14 AM »
At the time of the NY primary it was really between McPofs and Romney and i thought romneys' business experience was better than McCain's amnesty and other bs.   

Huck wasn't in it then? 

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« Reply #216 on: June 20, 2011, 11:27:18 AM »
Huck wasn't in it then? 

Huck = 240's messiah (Obama) IMHO 

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« Reply #217 on: June 20, 2011, 11:29:13 AM »
At the time of the NY primary it was really between McPofs and Romney and i thought romneys' business experience was better than McCain's amnesty and other bs.    

LMAO... you guys were on Super Tuesday!  Absolutely nothing was decided~
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« Reply #218 on: June 20, 2011, 04:10:45 PM »
Doesn't matter.  Romney is the frontrunner and quite frankly he can't beat Obama.  The Bible Belt will never elect a non Christian into office. 


Only Rick Perry or Ron Paul have a chance.  Michelle Bachman is an idiot, Herman Cain is inexperienced, and Tom Paw doesn't have the balls to stand on his words
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« Reply #219 on: June 20, 2011, 04:15:48 PM »
At the time of the NY primary it was really between McPofs and Romney and i thought romneys' business experience was better than McCain's amnesty and other bs.   

Only SEVEN States had voted when it was time for the NY Primary.

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/timeline.php?year=2008&f=0&off=0&elect=2

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« Reply #220 on: June 20, 2011, 04:39:15 PM »
Doesn't matter.  Romney is the frontrunner and quite frankly he can't beat Obama.  The Bible Belt will never elect a non Christian into office. 


Only Rick Perry or Ron Paul have a chance.  Michelle Bachman is an idiot, Herman Cain is inexperienced, and Tom Paw doesn't have the balls to stand on his words

You think the Bible Belt will vote for Obama over Romney?

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« Reply #221 on: June 20, 2011, 06:55:51 PM »
You think the Bible Belt will vote for Obama over Romney?


Obama is going down like Dukakis 

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« Reply #222 on: June 20, 2011, 08:16:16 PM »
I don't think he's too old to be president.  He looks great for a 77-year-old. 

Ron Paul: 'I’m Not Too Old to be President'
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GOP candidate Ron Paul went on the offensive on television on Monday denying that his views are out of the mainstream or that he is too old to be president.

ron paul old president“It’s the ideas that count. It’s your general health that counts. It’s your enthusiasm for liberty,” Paul told Matt Lauer on NBC’s Today show. “I endorse young ideas,”

If elected, Paul would be 77 years and four months by the time he assumes office in January 2013. That’s more than seven years older than Ronald Reagan was when he became the oldest man ever to take the Oath of Office for the first time. Less than three years into his first term, Paul would be the first octogenarian to be president.

But Paul pointed out that his views are particularly important to the young. "It's these endless, undeclared, unwinnable wars that are dumped on the young people," he said. “That’s why the next generation, the current young people between the age of 15 and 25 or 30, are with me. They’re getting dumped on.”

When Lauer asked about his plans to legalize prostitution and drugs including cocaine and heroin, Paul replied, “I want to legalize freedom. What's so bad about that? What’s wrong about legalizing choices about your life and liberty and your religious values? What’s wrong with legalizing the Constitution?

“I defend everything I do by the Constitution, so why can you turn that around and say everything he’s doing is nuts and crazy?”

Paul won the straw poll held at the Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans at the weekend with 612 votes. Jon Huntsman came in second with 382. He acknowledged that he is not leading in national polls but said that victory should not be dismissed. “All the others had their names on the ballot,” he pointed out.

And Paul, who is running for the Republican nomination for the third time, said his time has now come. “A growing number of people are starting to realize that what I’m talking about is pretty sound.

“It’s very American. It produces prosperity and peace and I’m always bewildered why anybody would reject it.

“We shouldn’t be the warmongers,” he added. “We shouldn’t be the policemen of the world, we shouldn’t be in 130 countries and 900 bases and fighting undeclared wars.”

Paul disagreed with Lauer who told him that many people agree with some of his views but not all. “People don’t want bits and pieces,” the candidate said. “This is a package. Economic liberty and personal liberty are one and the same and a foreign policy that defends America and does not police the world is part of the package as well.”

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/RonPaulI-mNotTooOldtobePresident/2011/06/20/id/400658

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« Reply #223 on: June 21, 2011, 05:30:52 AM »
You think the Bible Belt will vote for Obama over Romney?


They'll either vote for Obama or a 3rd party contender for spite.  They definitely won't vote for Romney.  If he becomes the contender, you can expect a 502 group to rip him to pieces in ads. 

The vast majority of Republicans are evangelical Christians and they will not vote for a Mormon.  It just won't happen.  I'm sure Glenn Beck will help out Romney since he's a Mormon too but any campaign will twist it around to where it will get pretty ugly
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« Reply #224 on: June 21, 2011, 05:43:05 AM »

They'll either vote for Obama or a 3rd party contender for spite.  They definitely won't vote for Romney.  If he becomes the contender, you can expect a 502 group to rip him to pieces in ads. 

The vast majority of Republicans are evangelical Christians and they will not vote for a Mormon.  It just won't happen.  I'm sure Glenn Beck will help out Romney since he's a Mormon too but any campaign will twist it around to where it will get pretty ugly


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