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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #325 on: August 27, 2011, 12:03:48 PM »
Poll: Perry, Romney Neck-and-Neck in Ohio
Friday, 26 Aug 2011
By Newsmax Wires

The battle is on between Mitt Romney and Rick Perry for the front-runner spot in the Republican presidential campaign. In the key battleground state of Ohio, a new Public Policy Polling survey of Republican voters shows the Texas governor barely ahead of the former Massachusetts governor — 21 percent to 20 percent.

Perry’s lead is statistically insignificant given the poll’s 4.9 percent margin of error. The survey was taken Aug. 11-14. Perry only entered the race Aug. 13.

Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann took third place in the poll, with 14 percent, followed by businessman Herman Cain with 10 percent, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Texas Rep. Ron Paul tied with 8 percent, and former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman with 1 percent.

Putting former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin into the mix, Perry again tallies 21 percent, with Romney second at 18 percent and Palin third at 11 percent.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Perry-Romney-Ohio-poll/2011/08/26/id/408827

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #326 on: August 27, 2011, 12:11:31 PM »
Well I guess we know who will have one of the biggest voices in a Perry administration. 

Religious Right Millionaire Backed Rick Perry's Career, Paved Texas Conservative Politics With Money
First Posted: 8/27/11 10:12 AM ET Updated: 8/27/11 10:13 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry is expected to rally Christian conservative leaders in Texas this weekend to discuss strategies for his bid for the Republican presidential nomination. The event will be hosted by Dr. James Leininger, a millionaire Christian right figure who was once the biggest political donor in Texas and an early and crucial benefactor to Perry’s political career.

Leininger is not widely known outside of Texas, but inside the state he is seen as a pioneer of political donations to conservative politicians and causes. The conservative activist made his millions selling hospital beds, and since the 1980s he has pushed a mix of religious right fervor and pro-business activism, which is now reflected in the politics of all major Texas Republican figures, particularly Perry. Since 1989, Leininger, who is worth more than $300 million, and his wife have donated at least $6.9 million to political parties, political action committees and state and federal candidates, according to data obtained by TransparencyData.com, a site run by the Sunlight Foundation, a nonprofit that aims to increase government transparency. He has also created a host of nonprofits, most prominently the Texas Public Policy Foundation (TPPF), to advance his conservative political agenda.

"James Leininger has been the sugar daddy of the far right in Texas," said Kathy Miller, the president of the Texas Freedom Network, a nonprofit supporting religious freedom and individual liberties in Texas. "He is probably one of the biggest donors to the Republican Party of Texas’ move to far-right extremism."

Leininger has been particularly helpful to Perry over the years. In 1998, Perry was in a close contest for Texas lieutenant governor with Democrat John Sharp. In the waning weeks of the campaign, Perry and Sharp were neck-and-neck, and Perry was running low on funds. Leininger stepped forward with a $1.1 million loan to the campaign, enabling Perry to increase advertising when many voters were just beginning paying attention. Perry won that race by a hair. Since then, Leininger has donated more than $250,000 to Perry's gubernatorial campaigns. A request put into Leininger's office for comment was not returned by Saturday morning.

A report released on Wednesday by Texans for Public Justice documented the many ties between Perry and Leininger. Of particular note, Perry and Leininger have participated together in a number of financial transactions, including investments by Perry in one of Leininger's companies.

Andrew Wheat, research director for Texans for Public Justice, told The Huffington Post, “What puts the relationship between Perry and Leininger apart is these personal financial deals.”

According to the report, Perry made a quick $4,500 from a stock purchase and sale in Leininger's Kinetic Concepts, Inc., the hospital bed manufacturer that made Leininger a millionaire. Perry's stock purchase came after meeting with Leininger and immediately before an investment group started buying up Kinetic Concepts shares, driving up the price of the stock. In total, Perry would wind up making $38,000 off of Kinetic stock investments.


Prior to Leininger's financial assistance toward Perry's 1998 campaign, the two men purchased a turbo prop airplane together. Leininger and his brother put up 90 percent of the stake in the Piper Cheyenne I plane and Perry’s campaign chipped in the other 10 percent. One year after the initial purchase, the Perry campaign bought Leininger’s 90 percent stake with financing from Leininger.

Leininger’s business investments have also received aid from the economic development funds under Perry’s control. In 2009, the governor’s Emerging Technology Fund sent $1.75 million to the Dallas-based company Gradalis, which Leininger holds a significant stake of. Gradlis owns a 10 percent stake in the drug company G-Con, which was awarded $3 million by the Texas Enterprise Fund, a purse controlled by the governor’s office.

Perry's office also did not return a request to comment by Saturday morning.

Leininger also invested in Texans for a Republican Majority (TRMPAC), the political action committee run by former House Majority Leader Tom Delay. Leininger was the second biggest donor to TRMPAC, with $142,500 in contributions. Ultimately, DeLay would wind up convicted on money laundering charges for funneling corporate money through TRMPAC to Texas legislative candidates.

The focus of Leininger's political activity over the past two decades has mostly focused on advancing his specific pet causes, including school vouchers and tort reform, and investing in a conservative Christian infrastructure to support like-minded causes and politicians. He has done this through pumping money into a series of political action committees, nonprofits and charities.

Leininger's most lasting influence may be his support of the politicization and radicalization of the Texas State Board of Education. In 1994, Leininger pumped tens of thousands of dollars into the candidacies of three Christian conservatives seeking seats on the State Board of Education. Most notably, a political action committee funded by Leininger paid for a last-minute mailer to voters that featured a picture of a black man kissing a white man and a warning that the incumbent education board members voted for the promotion of abortion and homosexuality in school textbooks.

That funding continued through the 1990s as Leininger helped to propel even more Christian conservatives onto the State Board of Education. According to Miller, of the Texas Freedom Network, those conservatives "turned the State Board of Education into ground zero for culture war issues in Texas."

By the year 2000, 10 of the 15 seats on the board were occupied by conservatives in the Leininger mold. The board even honored Leininger in 2000 as a "hero for children."

While Leininger’s interest in education largely stemmed from a support of school vouchers, a policy that has not yet been enacted in Texas, the board members he supported also shared Leininger’s Christian conservative values.

Those values would be expressed over the next 10 years as the State Board would attempt to rewrite school textbooks on every issue from Darwin and evolution to the religious beliefs of the Founding Fathers. In 2010, the board approved a number of changes to school textbooks, such as adding sections on the conservative resurgence of the 1980s and 1990s -- which includes Phyllis Schafly, the National Rifle Association and the Contract With America -- placing the violent approach to Civil Rights activism by the Black Panthers alongside the non-violent teachings of Martin Luther King, Jr. and cutting Thomas Jefferson out of a list of writers who inspired revolutions of the 18th and 19th centuries.

In 2011, the board side-stepped a debate over evolution after it approved some materials deemed controversial by conservatives -- including explanations of cell structures and a comparison of chimpanzee and human skulls -- and punted on the evolution question by waiting for the education commissioner to develop new lesson plans.

Perry has recently echoed positions on evolution advocated by the conservative bloc of the board. The presidential candidate called evolution “a theory that’s out there” and said that “God is how we got here.”

Tort reform, Leininger's other major cause, has, unsurprisingly, also been touted by Perry. After his company, Kinetic Concepts, lost its liability insurance in 1987, Leininger invested hundreds of thousands of dollars in a tort reform campaign targeting state judicial races. This push came as the Texas business community rallied against state trial lawyers after a 1987 report by "60 Minutes" detailed how trial lawyer campaign contributions to judges were affecting outcomes in court cases. Leininger's money was largely responsible for a turnaround in the state judiciary, which led to a follow-up "60 Minutes" report in 1998 detailing how campaign contributions from business interests and doctors held sway over legal decisions by Texas judges.

After designating tort reform a priority issue in 2003, Perry successfully pushed a tort reform package through the state legislature that limited malpractice suits. The Leininger-funded group Texans for Lawsuit Reform spoke with its wallet in favor of Perry’s tort reform success. The group contributed a total of $190,000 to Perry’s subsequent re-election campaigns.

Much of this advocacy has been pushed along by the Texas Public Policy Foundation, a nonprofit think tank created by Leininger and modeled after the conservative Heritage Foundation. The Foundation’s policy agenda has largely overlapped with Leininger’s pro-business agenda and has been adopted by Perry and the Texas state legislature.

Leininger has also bankrolled a number of anti-abortion groups, including Texas Right to Life, Heidi Group and the Christian Pro Life Foundation. His charity, The Covenant Foundation, Inc., contributed at least $450,000 from 1997 to 2005 to the Medical Institute for Sexual Health, an abstinence-only advocate. In 2005, he gave $100,000 in support of an amendment banning gay marriage.

The Covenant Foundation, Inc., charity has also been another way for Leininger to project his money into Christian conservative causes. The biggest benefactor of the charity's largesse in the past few years has been the conservative Patrick Henry College, which received $9.3 million in contributions from 2008 to 2009. Leininger sits on the Board of Trustees of the school.

Patrick Henry College has been referred to as “God’s Harvard,” the title of a book by Hanna Rosin, who first profiled the school in the New Yorker. The article explained that 85 percent of the students were home schooled and that all students were excused from classes during the last days of the 2004 election, as so many had volunteered for the re-election campaign of President George W. Bush. Many of these students would ultimately go on to intern and work in the Bush administration.

The large number of political volunteers from Patrick Henry College underlines a well-known fact: Churches and the Christian Right make up the grassroots ground game for the Republican Party. This connection helps explain why Perry is retreating out to Jim Leininger's ranch in the Texas brush this weekend to meet with the businessman and other religious right figures in the state, including David Barton and Rick Scarborough.

Andrew Wheat, of Texans for Public Justice, explained, “Apparently there’s no request for money to get in the door. It’s more about strategizing to get out the vote.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/27/religious-right-millionaire-rick-perry_n_938547.html

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #327 on: August 27, 2011, 07:04:36 PM »
As of 21 Aug.

Perry  21%
Romney  18.5%
Palin  11%
Paul  9.7%
Bachmann  9.5%
Giuliani  9.3%
Gingrich  5.5%
Cain  5.0%
Santorum  2.0%
Huntsman  2.0%

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #328 on: August 27, 2011, 07:35:26 PM »
Just watched my first ever Rick Perry speech.  Very impressive.  He's a better speaker than Obama IMO.  He will connect with a lot of people. 

His comments about the Texas economy were pretty startling when compared to the Obama record:  job growth, balanced budget without raising taxes, and a $6 billion rainy day fun.   :o 

He said all the right things.  Loved his emphasis on the 10th Amendment.

I want to hear him more on the campaign trail, including answering questions during the debates, but I like what I've heard and read so far. 


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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #329 on: August 28, 2011, 09:07:28 AM »
I like tha part where he uses govt funds for HPV vaccinations.  Sure, the parents can say no.  Can the taxpayers say no too?  ;)

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #330 on: August 29, 2011, 11:46:52 AM »
New CNN Poll: Perry sits atop GOP field
By: CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser

Washington (CNN) – A new national survey is further proof that Texas Gov. Rick Perry's entrance earlier this month into the race for the White House has dramatically altered the battle for the Republican presidential nomination.

According to a CNN/ORC International Poll of Republicans and independent voters who lean towards the GOP, Perry now sits atop the list of Republican presidential candidates, with strong support from most demographic groups.

Full results (pdf)

The survey, released Monday, indicates that 27 percent of Republicans nationwide support Perry for their party's nomination, with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who's making his second bid for the White House, at 14 percent. Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin follows at ten percent, with Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani at nine percent, and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, who's making his third bid for the presidency, at six percent. Every one else listed on the questionnaire registered in the low single digits.

The survey follows a Gallup poll out last week which also placed Perry at the top of the GOP field. Other polling released in the past week also confirms the findings of the CNN and Gallup surveys.

"Perry's support is higher among Republican men, at 32 percent, than Republican women, at 23 percent, but he has more support among either group than any other candidate," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

According to the survey, Perry supporters tend to be older and have higher incomes, but the longtime Texas governor also tops the list, albeit by smaller margins, among lower-income Republicans and those under 50 years old.

"Perry's biggest support comes from Republicans who say they are supporters of the tea party movement - he wins 37 percent of their vote - but he also edges Romney by a couple of points among Republicans who don't call themselves tea party supporters," adds Holland.

While both Palin, the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee, and Giuliani, who ran for the 2008 GOP presidential nomination, have both frequently flirted with bids for the White House, neither has taken concrete steps to launch a campaign.

Take Palin and Giuliani out of the mix and listing only the announced candidates, and the poll indicates Perry with 32 percent support, followed by Romney at 18 percent, Bachmann at 12 percent, Gingrich at seven percent, Paul at six percent, and everyone else in the low single digits.

While Perry has surged in the polls following his late entry into the race, the question remains whether he can maintain his position in future surveys. The last two candidates who made high profile late entries into the race for the White House did not have staying power.

"In 2003, Wesley Clark was a late entrant in the Democratic field and almost immediately jumped to the top of the pack. Fred Thompson did the same thing four years later on the GOP side and quickly was in a virtual tie for first place. But by November, both men had dropped in the polls and neither did very well when the voting started," says Holland. "Bill Clinton was a late entry in 1991 - he filed his papers with the Federal Election Commission in August - but the Democratic field that year was much less crowded than the GOP field today."

Much could change in the coming weeks, as the pace of the race for the White House picks up with a vengeance over the next two months, with five GOP presidential debates (including two CNN debates) and six major events that will also attract many of the candidates.

Meanwhile, the survey indicates that number of Democrats and independents who lean towards the Democratic party who would like the party to nominate someone else besides President Barack Obama has topped out after months of steady growth.  Seventy-two percent of Democrats want to see Obama re-nominated, with 27 percent wanting a different candidate. That's virtually unchanged since early August, although it is higher than in June.

The CNN/ORC International Poll was conducted August 24-25, with 467 Republicans and independents who lean Republican, and 463 Democrats and independents who lean Democratic, questioned by telephone. The survey's sampling error is plus or minus 4.5 percentage points.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/29/new-cnn-poll-perry-sits-atop-gop-field/#more-172759

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #331 on: August 29, 2011, 11:48:01 AM »
Poll results:
   
Aug. 24-25 Aug. 5-7 July 18-20
   2011 2011 2011
 
 Perry  27% 15% 14%
 Romney  14% 17% 16%
 Palin  10% 12% 13%
 Bachmann  9% 7% 12%
 Giuliani  9% 12% 13%
 Gingrich  6% 5% 4%
 Paul  6% 12% 8%
 Cain  2% 4% 6%
 Johnson  2% * *
 Huntsman  1% 4% 1%
 Santorum  1% 2% 2%
 McCotter  * * *
 Someone else (vol.)  3% 4% 4%
 None/ No one (vol.)  5% 4% 8%
 No opinion  3% 2% 1%

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/08/29/130.poll.pdf

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #332 on: August 30, 2011, 09:53:30 AM »
Inhofe endorses Perry
By: CNN's Ashley Killough

(CNN) – Texas Gov. Rick Perry picked up his first Senate endorsement Monday from Republican Sen. Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma.

"Fourteen months ago I called him up. I said, 'Rick, I don't know if it's really going to happen, but I really believe you're the only guy who can really win this thing," Inhofe said at the Tulsa event. "And when the time comes, I'm going to be there to endorse you'."

Of the current 2012 GOP contenders, Inhofe said Perry was the strongest choice to beat President Barack Obama, citing the governor's record of increasing jobs in Texas and cutting down the state's deficit.

"The one thing that he has that nobody else has is his background of experience–not just in being an administrator, but in doing the right thing." Inhofe said, with Perry standing by his side. "No one out there is as aware as to the cost of all the over-regulations we're experiencing right now."

Perry said he was humbled by the senator's endorsement, adding that he was surprised when Inhofe called him last year about running for president.

"I did think you were way outside the realm of possibilities when you called, and I shared that with you," Perry said.

Inhofe is known as one of the Senate's most outspoken skeptics on climate change and shares his doubts with Perry, who has drawn fire for saying manmade global warming is an unproven scientific theory.

The Tulsa World last week reported that Inhofe has also weighed in on other White House hopefuls, saying former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is "a little mushy" on environmental issues. As for Newt Gingrich, Inhofe said he's always had a vision of the former House Speaker "sitting on the couch holding hands with Nancy Pelosi."

Besides Perry, Inhofe said there's another potential candidate who could oust Obama: Sen. John Thune of South Dakota.

"The reason I say that is he's taller than Obama is, he's better looking than Obama is, and he's the same age Obama is. He would have made a good candidate, but he's not running," Inhofe said.

While Thune was a favorite in early talks of 2012 presidential candidates, he decided against the idea in February and said he'll stay in the Senate. But in an interview in July, Thune left the door open for a vice presidential spot, saying he wouldn't rule out any options if asked to be the GOP running mate.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/29/inhofe-endorses-perry/#more-172787

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #333 on: August 30, 2011, 07:02:38 PM »
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Oh my: Perry 41, Romney 12, Paul 11, Bachmann 9
Hot Air ^ | 8/30/11 | Allahpundit
Posted on August 30, 2011 7:42:56 PM EDT by Lou Budvis

I know, I know: It’s a Zogby poll. But c’mon. I had to blog it. Just because I knew that headline would rock your world. He’s not leading by this much. But he is leading, comfortably.

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #334 on: August 31, 2011, 05:56:08 PM »
His tax plan sounds pretty decent. 

Huntsman unveils jobs plan
By: CNN Political Producer Rachel Streitfeld

Hampton, New Hampshire (CNN) – Presidential candidate Jon Huntsman introduced a plan Wednesday to dramatically scale back the scope of the federal government and simplify the tax code, in part by including eliminating deductions and credits.

The former Utah governor said his plan would encourage small business growth and induce American corporations to expand their work forces in the U.S. instead of overseas. The plan also lays out a path forward on energy independence and free trade.

"There is no more urgent priority at this point in our nation's history than creating jobs and strengthening our economic core; everything else revolves around it," Huntsman said, speaking at a podium framed by two hulking metal presses at Gilchrist Metal Fabricating in Hudson, New Hampshire. "My plan may be challenged by the special interests, on the left and the right. But it represents a serious path forward – toward fiscal discipline and economic growth."

Addressing the media after the event, Huntsman was asked about potential blow-back on his plan to eliminate popular tax credits and deductions, such as the home mortgage deduction. The candidate said his plan represented "a going-in position" and would be negotiated by both parties if he were to become president.

"Right now we are polarized. We've got the extremes, and no one kind of moving the agenda forward. A president needs to move the agenda forward and get things done," he said. "What I have laid out today really represents our going-in position. This is what I'd like to see done, but there's the reality of the two-party system, there's the reality of the negotiations going forward. I'd like to stick as closely to this as possible."

The plan would eliminate tax deductions and credits, including the popular home mortgage deduction, in favor of a simplified three-bracket tax rate of eight, 14 or 23 percent. The corporate tax rate would drop from 35 percent to 25 percent.

He would also eliminate the alternative minimum tax as well as taxes on capital gains and dividends.

On the regulatory front, Huntsman would repeal the "$1 trillion bomb" he called "Obamacare," in addition to repealing the Dodd-Frank financial regulatory reform act and the Sarbanes-Oxley financial reform measure passed during the Bush administration in response to the Enron accounting scandal. He would also streamline the approval processes at the Food and Drug Agency and the Environmental Protection Agency, including for the controversial fracking method of extracting natural gas.

Huntsman also said he would move to block the National Labor Relations Board from prosecuting Boeing over a high profile union case, and "if they fail to do so, I will replace them."

The former governor's jobs announcement comes a week before former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and President Barack Obama lay out their plans to tackle unemployment. Huntsman reminded his audience he was the only Republican candidate to stamp his approval on the debt ceiling deal, and faulted Obama for his leadership on the controversy that consumed Washington for three weeks this summer.

"Meeting our challenges will require serious solutions, but above all, it will require serious leadership – a quality in high demand in our nation's capital, and among my opponents on the campaign trail," Huntsman said. "President Obama never even offered a plan of his own, and all of my opponents supported default, even as far as attempting to undermine the deal at the 11th hour. That simply doesn't cut it – especially in these trying times."

Huntsman also pledged to pursue new trade opportunities with Japan, India and Taiwan, and approve pending deals with South Korea, Colombia and Panama.
"We have no choice; we must unite and look beyond politics for solutions," he said. "I believe with a new administration we can do just that."

After his speech, the former ambassador to China was given an opportunity to share a personal story when an audience member asked him about the East-Asian country's one-child policy of restricting birth rates for some families. Huntsman said he hated the policy, and added his 12-year old daughter Gracie Mei was given up for adoption by her parents because of the policy.

Huntsman will discuss his plan Wednesday night on CNN's "John King, USA" at 7 p.m. ET.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/31/huntsman-unveils-jobs-plan/#more-173170

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #335 on: August 31, 2011, 06:03:36 PM »
I'm moving in this direction too.  (Not an "endorsement," but liking him as a candidate.)

Steve Forbes: I'm Leaning Toward Perry Endorsement
Wednesday, 31 Aug 2011
By Jim Meyers and Kathleen Walter

Forbes magazine editor Steve Forbes says he “very impressed” with Texas Gov. Rick Perry and is leaning toward endorsing him for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.

“Rick Perry, the governor of Texas, is now the front-runner. He’s had a good record even though liberals are now trying to trash it, along with perhaps some of his GOP opponents,” Forbes, a two-time presidential candidate, tells Newsmax.

“He did some very good things in reforming their personal injury liability system, very very positive reforms. He encouraged energy production instead of states like California that discourage it, and refused to put in a state income tax. So in the great scheme of things that’s a pretty solid record to run on. So he is the front-runner.”
 
Asked who Forbes is likely to endorse, he says: “I’m looking over the whole field now. I’m very impressed with Governor Perry, so that’s where the wind’s blowing in my little world. I’ll be making a decision soon.

“Maybe one or two other candidates might come in during the next couple of weeks, but I’ve certainly been impressed by what Governor Perry did. Perhaps he gets over-exuberant in what he says about the Federal Reserve, but he is right. The Fed has a lot to answer for.”

As for Mitt Romney, who is currently Perry’s chief rival for the GOP nomination, Forbes says he has a “huge albatross,” called Romneycare, which is “eventually going to torpedo his candidacy.”

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/steve-forbes-rick-perry/2011/08/31/id/409374

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #336 on: September 01, 2011, 03:50:24 PM »
Fox News Poll: Perry Overtakes Romney as Top GOP 2012 Pick; Most Say Palin Should Stay Out of Race
By Dana Blanton
Published September 01, 2011
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Even as Texas Gov. Rick Perry moves into the lead as Republican voters’ preferred presidential candidate, a Fox News poll released Thursday shows that voters are more likely to view him as “too extreme” than former frontrunner Mass. Gov. Mitt Romney. In addition, most American voters -- including a majority of Republicans -- think former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin should stay out of the presidential race.

Perry receives the support of 26 percent of GOP primary voters in the new poll. That’s up from 13 percent in early August and enough to edge out Romney as frontrunner. Currently Romney captures 18 percent, down from 21 percent (August 7-9).

No other candidate garners double-digit support.

Palin receives 8 percent and Texas Rep. Ron Paul comes in at 7 percent. Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann captures the backing of 4 percent, down from a high of 11 percent in late June. Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and businessman Herman Cain also garner 4 percent each. Another 4 percent support former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, even though he has said he is not running and his name wasn’t included in the question. Giuliani and Palin are unannounced.

Click here to see the full results of the poll.

When voters are asked to pick just among the announced candidates, Perry’s receives the support of 29 percent of GOP primary voters, followed by Romney at 22 percent, and Bachmann and Paul both at 8 percent. Romney’s support has dropped 4 percentage points and Bachmann’s has dropped 5 points since the August 7-9 Fox News Poll, which was conducted before Perry officially announced his candidacy on August 13.

“Too Extreme”

The poll asked voters to name any Republican contenders they felt were “too extreme to be seriously considered.” Among all voters, Bachmann tops the list at 18 percent, followed by Perry at 14 percent, Palin at 12 percent and Paul at 10 percent. Four percent think Romney is too extreme. Responses were volunteered by respondents; a list was not read. About a third of voters (35 percent) said none were too extreme and 22 percent were unsure.

Among Republicans, Paul is seen as too extreme by 14 percent, Bachmann by 11 percent, Palin by 9 percent and Newt Gingrich by 6 percent. Five percent of Republicans think Perry is too extreme and 3 percent say the same about Romney. Some 38 percent of Republicans say none of their party’s announced or potential candidates is too extreme, and another 26 percent have no opinion.

For the key voting bloc of independents, Bachmann (19 percent), Perry (17 percent) and Palin (14 percent) are the Republican contenders most frequently mentioned as being too extreme to be seriously considered. Five percent of independents consider Romney too extreme.

Should Palin Run?

All in all, most voters -- 74 percent -- think Palin should stay on the sidelines in 2012. Just 20 percent think she should run for president.
The groups most likely to support Palin running are white evangelical Christians (30 percent) and Tea Party members (28 percent). Still, majorities of those groups do not think she should run (62 percent and 66 percent respectively). In addition, 72 percent of conservatives, 71 percent of Republicans and 66 percent of independents think Palin should stay out.

Women (77 percent) are a bit more likely than men (71 percent) to say Palin should sit this one out.

Just among women, Republicans (26 percent) are more likely than independents (24 percent) and Democrats (15 percent) to think Palin should run.

The Fox News poll is based on landline and cell phone interviews with 911 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide and was conducted under the joint direction of Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R) from August 29 to August 31. For the total sample, it has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

Sarah Palin is a Fox News contributor.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/01/fox-news-poll-perry-overtakes-romney-as-top-gop-2012-pick-most-say-palin-should-1905707772/

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #337 on: September 02, 2011, 06:28:49 AM »
Run, Sarah, run !
the debates will be more fun !
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« Reply #338 on: September 02, 2011, 06:30:48 AM »
Run, Sarah, run !
the debates will be more fun !


Sarah, or anyone for that matter - would destroy obama. 

THE "ARE YOU BETTER OFF . . . ."

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« Reply #339 on: September 02, 2011, 10:55:10 AM »
New Hampshire House majority leader endorses Romney
By: CNN Political Producer Rachel Streitfeld

Concord, New Hampshire (CNN) - Conservative New Hampshire House Majority Leader D.J. Bettencourt will endorse presidential hopeful Mitt Romney, Bettencourt said Thursday.

The outspoken young Republican leader called Romney "the most conservative candidate who gives Republicans the best chance to win back the White House in 2012."

Bettencourt was swept into power in the state's tea party wave election last November.

Romney has made winning New Hampshire a centerpiece of his campaign strategy, and has touted his experience in the private sector as key to beating Barack Obama next fall.

"He has the private-sector experience that will be critical to leading an economic recovery," Bettencourt said. "His executive experience was critical to me and he shares my goals of creating jobs, balancing our budgets and reversing President Obama’s failed policies."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/01/new-hampshire-house-majority-leader-endorses-romney/

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« Reply #340 on: September 02, 2011, 10:56:01 AM »
Rasmussen: Perry Leads Obama By 3 Points
Thursday, 01 Sep 2011 02:52 PM
By Andra Varin

For the first time this year, Rick Perry tops Barack Obama in a presidential election poll. But given the survey’s margin of error, the race is tight.

The Rasmussen Reports poll, released Thursday, shows Perry getting 44 percent of the vote, while Obama gets 41 percent. The margin of error is plus or minus 3 percentage points.

The poll results are still a victory for Perry. Just over a week ago, Obama held a three-point lead over the Texas governor.

Other Republican candidates trailed Obama by single digits. If Mitt Romney were the GOP nominee, he would get 39 percent of the vote, compared to 43 percent for Obama, the poll found.

If Obama were pitted against Michele Bachmann, he would garner 46 percent of the vote, compared to 38 percent for the Minnesota congresswoman.

The telephone survey of 1,000 likely voters was taken Aug. 23-30.

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/obama-perry-rasmussen-poll/2011/09/01/id/409491

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« Reply #341 on: September 05, 2011, 12:36:19 PM »
The Republican 2012 Field, In Order
By Chris Stirewalt
Published September 05, 2011
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The Republican 2012 Field, In Order

It is 22 weeks until the Iowa caucuses – maybe as little as 17 weeks if claim jumpers in Florida and Arizona move up their primaries.

That’s a relative eternity in political time. Remember, at this point in the 2008 cycle, all of the smart money was on Hillary Clinton being the next president. One-term Senator Barack Obama was running what was mostly dismissed as a vanity campaign aimed at increasing his national name identification.

 
But, four or five months is how long it takes to set up a national campaign for president. The fear about John McCain’s August 2007 campaign collapse wasn’t that the voters had already made up their minds, but that he wouldn’t have enough time to build a campaign that could endure through a months-long nomination fight. He nearly didn’t.
 
Most Americans won’t really start paying attention to the presidential election until next Labor Day, but for millions of political junkies, die-hard Republicans and devoted supporters of the president, today is the first official day of the 2012 campaign. The politicians never stop campaigning, but now it’s for keeps.

Accordingly, Power Play offers the Republican 2012 field, in order.

Rick Perry

The Texas governor has won enough elections to know the perils that come with frontrunner status. That doesn’t make his task any easier, though.
Right now, Perry is taking heavy flak from both sides.

On Perry’s left, Mitt Romney is trying to burnish his Tea Party bona fides. He is doing his best to remind the members of the Republican right that Perry is exactly the kind of career politician that they claim to despise. That’s coupled with an aggressive whisper campaign aimed at undecideds in the Republican establishment about Perry’s electability: too twangy, too dumb, too Christian… too Texan.

On his right, Michele Bachmann is preparing for what may be a kamikaze attack, starting with Wednesday’s MSNBC debate. Certainly the debate hosts and Romney will give her a clear flight path to try to destroy Perry’s credibility with the right. Expect to hear about Perry having been a Democrat until he was 39 and being something of a moderate on immigration.

If Perry is going to win the nomination, he has to use his attackers against each other. The arguments brewing in Bachmann’s camp are things that actually make an argument for Perry’s general-election viability. Being a former Democrat who can talk to Hispanic voters is a good thing when it comes to beating Barack Obama.

To make that argument work, Perry will need to seem cool under fire and look and sound presidential when Bachmann and Romney hit their licks. The tough part will be doing so in a way that doesn’t diminish his greatest advantage: being the only candidate who has managed to thrill the GOP base.

After his successful launch less than one month ago, Perry has been polishing up his presentation and raising money. Today begins a make-or-break three-week stretch for the Texan. Starting with Sen. Jim DeMint’s South Carolina candidate forum today and running through the Florida GOP’s straw poll on Sept. 24, Perry has to prove that he’s for real.

Mitt Romney

The last place anybody expected to see Mitt Romney on Labor Day is at Sen. Jim DeMint’s South Carolina conservative cattle call.

Romney’s strategy called for skipping South Carolina altogether and avoiding the dangers of the Tea Party movement, but the rapid rise of Rick Perry has Romney in Columbia, S.C. today making his case to one of the most conservative members of Congress and has many supporters.

Perry’s ascendancy has accelerated Romney’s move to the right, a journey that he began in 2007. And while his critics call him a flip flopper, Romney’s movement has basically been in one direction. The Republican Party has become more conservative since then, and so has Romney.

What’s tricky now for Romney is finding a way to block Perry without appearing to pander.

Romney so far has resisted any impulse to change his message – other than to play up the fact that he spent only four years in public office before launching what has now been a four-year quest for the presidency. Romney’s message remains a withering assault on President Obama’s record on the economy coupled with a tout for his own business credentials.

If Michele Bachmann obliges Romney and eviscerates Perry or Perry cracks up on his own, Romney can stay on message and actually be helped by his current difficulties. If Perry stumbles Romney will be better off for having broadened out his electoral map. Without Perry, Romney would be the last man standing and could move to secure victory swiftly and abandon his current strategy to win the nomination in a battle of attrition.

The other bit of encouraging news for Romney has been the return of Sarah Palin. She’s on the trail in Iowa and New Hampshire speaking out against good old boys in the GOP and crony capitalism, a pretty direct warning to Perry. If Perry found himself under attack simultaneously by Bachmann and Palin, Romney would be back at cruising altitude pretty quickly.

Palin could be a powerful ally for Perry or a deadly opponent. Romney has to hope it’s the latter. If she doesn’t join the race, Romney may be left with little choice than to move farther to the right and to attack Perry more directly, which would be a serious problem for a candidate who is at his best above the fray.

Michele Bachmann

The high-water mark for the congresswoman’s campaign came on the evening of August 13. She won the Iowa GOP’s straw poll at Ames and delivered a deathblow to the presidential aspirations of fellow Minnesotan Tim Pawlenty.

Bachmann’s time as a top-tier candidate was brief, though. On the next day, Rick Perry’s entry had changed the race for good. Bachmann’s best argument for viability is that she might unite fiscal and social conservatives against the more moderate Mitt Romney. In a party that was dissatisfied with its frontrunner, it was a pretty good argument to make. But Perry offers the same argument and does so with a decade as governor of the second largest state in the union and more polish.

Now, Bachmann finds herself in the second tier of the race with fellow House member Ron Paul. And while Paul has a strong organization and devoted longtime supporters, Bachmann is far less secure in her place.

While Bachmann will be obliging Romney if she launches an all-out assault on Perry’s conservative credentials, she may not have any alternative if she means to remain in the race. It wouldn’t increase her viability as a potential nominee, but if Bachmann does not break Perry right now, she is heading down to the third-tier, and quickly.

If she attacks Perry with as much ferocity as she did Pawlenty, whom she compared to Barack Obama, Bachmann will be reinforcing her biggest negative: that she’s too edgy for mainstream politics. As much as conservative activists want someone who is preaching fundamental change in politics, they know that the middle third of the political spectrum has to be convinced or Obama will squeeze out a second term and cement he and his movement’s gains.

Attack dogs don’t win party nominations, and if Bachmann becomes a perpetual antagonist – especially over matters of conservative orthodoxy – that’s how she will be branded.

She could do to Perry what Jon Huntsman seems committed to doing to Romney on the left: run a geographically narrow effort aimed at hobbling a more powerful candidate. For Huntsman, it’s Florida and New Hampshire. For Bachmann it would be Iowa and South Carolina.

Bachmann is in a pickle. She may have to decide soon whether she would rather see Perry or Romney as the nominee -- a hard choice for a woman who was, for at least one evening, in the lead.

Ron Paul

Ron Paul can command the support of about 8 percent of the Republican electorate indefinitely. That’s not enough to be the nominee, but it is enough to change the trajectory of the Republican Party for the next generation.

Unlike Michele Bachmann or any of the other candidates who have seen bursts of sudden support, Paul is not in the race because of his personality, biography or stump speech. His backers support the 76-year-old Texas congressman because he offers the purest articulation of libertarian principles and doesn’t change his tune is pursuit of broader support.

A lot of politicians like to say that they are leading a movement, not running a campaign. In Paul’s case, that is actually true. And while Bachmann has seen her support diminish amid questions of her viability, Paul has no such concern because his backers don’t care if he’s not the frontrunner.

The question that haunts Republican strategists is whether Paul will take that support into a Libertarian general election candidacy. Paul and his backers have a prickly past with frontrunner Perry down in Texas and surely have no love for corporate captain Romney, he of the mandatory health insurance. If he and his backers balk at backing the eventual GOP nominee, it could be serious trouble for the party in the 2012 election.

While Paul wouldn’t take all of his Republican supporters in the general election, he would pick up many independents and Libertarians to replace them. In an election that could come down to a few precincts in Ohio or Florida, that’s a serious threat.

Paul’s 8 percent is his ticket to stay in the race, remain on the debate stage and its also the reason that Perry and Romney can’t do what Rudy Giuliani tried in 2008 and attempt to demonize Paul or his principles.

The Rest

Labor Day is hard on the third tier of any presidential contest. Now it’s too late to say that it’s early.

For some, like Gary Johnson, Herman Cain and Buddy Roemer, their campaigns are not hard to sustain because the only costs involved are a few small salaries and diesel for a bus. For others, like Jon Huntsman, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum, who rely on support from donors to keep slightly larger (or in Huntsman’s case, vastly larger) operations afloat, it’s gut check time.

They can’t qualify for federal matching funds until January, but staying on the road for three more months will be hard for any of them. Huntsman could tap into his father’s fortune if he decides to stay in and try to play spoiler to fellow Mormon moderate Mitt Romney, but for the rest, it will only get harder to endure.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/05/republican-2012-field-in-order/

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #342 on: September 05, 2011, 01:38:54 PM »
His tax plan sounds pretty decent. 

Huntsman unveils jobs plan
By: CNN Political Producer Rachel Streitfeld

agreed.... moderation and common sense is rare these days.

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #343 on: September 05, 2011, 02:28:29 PM »
Yeah 240 - you seem really upset by maxine waters, pelosi, et al.  Please bump your posts calling out the cbc for their lack of moderation.

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« Reply #344 on: September 05, 2011, 03:18:49 PM »
Yeah 240 - you seem really upset by maxine waters, pelosi, et al.  Please bump your posts calling out the cbc for their lack of moderation.

cdc?  center for disease control?  they were pretty shady in that Outbreak movie, to be sure.

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« Reply #345 on: September 05, 2011, 04:46:19 PM »
Read my post again fool.

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« Reply #346 on: September 06, 2011, 09:45:13 AM »
Looks like this is turning into a two horse race. 

Perry continues to shake up GOP field, lead polls
By: CNN's Dan Merica

Washington (CNN) - Two new polls provide more evidence that the entrance of Texas Gov. Rick Perry has drastically changed the race for the Republican presidential nomination.

The Politico/George Washington University Battleground Poll has Perry atop the field with 36 percent, followed by former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney at 17 percent and Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann and Texas Rep. Ron Paul tied at 10 percent.

The NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll delivered similar results. Perry is 38 percent of respondent's first choice for the nomination, followed by Romney at 23 percent, Paul at 9 percent and Bachmann at 8 percent.

These polls are only the most recent to show Perry out in front of the field. Earlier polls from Gallup, Quinnipiac and CNN/ORC International all show a similar picture of the field.

Perry, the most recent entrant into the race, announced his run on Aug. 13, the same day that Bachmann won the Ames Straw Poll in the first-in-the-nation caucus state of Iowa.

Since that high point in her campaign, Bachmann has slipped in the polls.

Bachmann's former campaign manager Ed Rollins, who stepped down Monday due to health problems, said Perry's entrance "took a lot of our momentum."

"Legitimately, it's a Romney-Perry race," Rollins said. "I think she's the third candidate at this point in time, which is way different and better than we thought when we started this thing. She's very much in this thing."

The race for the GOP nomination will continue to evolve in September, a month that features three debates, including CNN's "Tea Party Republican Debate" on Sept. 12 in Tampa Florida.

The Politico/George Washington University Battleground Poll surveyed 1,000 likely voters over the phone and was conducted between Aug. 28 and Sept. 1. The poll has a sampling error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.

The NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll surveyed 1,000 adults over the phone from Aug. 27 to Aug. 31, and it has a sampling error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/06/perry-continues-to-shake-up-gop-field-lead-polls/#more-173992

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Re: Twelve for '12: A Dozen Republicans Who Could Be the Next President
« Reply #347 on: September 06, 2011, 09:48:16 AM »
I prefer Romney over Perry if I had to choose, but both are low on my list. 

Ron Paul
Bachmann
Cain
Romney
Newt
Santorum
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« Reply #348 on: September 06, 2011, 09:52:24 AM »
I prefer Romney over Perry if I had to choose, but both are low on my list. 

Ron Paul
Bachmann
Cain
Romney
Newt
Santorum
Huntsmun




Paul has zero chance to be the nominee. 

I like Romney's business background, but Perry has a good record as a leader, plus he has a military background.  Either one would be a tremendous improvement over Obama. 

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« Reply #349 on: September 06, 2011, 09:53:53 AM »
Paul has zero chance to be the nominee. 

I like Romney's business background, but Perry has a good record as a leader, plus he has a military background.  Either one would be a tremendous improvement over Obama. 

So would William Hong, who i would vote for over obama as well.