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Wisconsin Gov. Walker Ginned Up Budget Shortfall To Undercut Worker Rights
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Wisconsin's new Republican governor has framed his assault on public worker's collective bargaining rights as a needed measure of fiscal austerity during tough times.

The reality is radically different. Unlike true austerity measures -- service rollbacks, furloughs, and other temporary measures that cause pain but save money -- rolling back worker's bargaining rights by itself saves almost nothing on its own. But Walker's doing it anyhow, to knock down a barrier and allow him to cut state employee benefits immediately.

Furthermore, this broadside comes less than a month after the state's fiscal bureau -- the Wisconsin equivalent of the Congressional Budget Office -- concluded that Wisconsin isn't even in need of austerity measures, and could conclude the fiscal year with a surplus. In fact, they say that the current budget shortfall is a direct result of tax cut policies Walker enacted in his first days in office.


"Walker was not forced into a budget repair bill by circumstances beyond he control," says Jack Norman, research director at the Institute for Wisconsin Future -- a public interest think tank. "He wanted a budget repair bill and forced it by pushing through tax cuts... so he could rush through these other changes."

"The state of Wisconsin has not reached the point at which austerity measures are needed," Norman adds.

In a Wednesday op-ed, the Capitol Times of Madison picked up on this theme.
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/opinion/editorial/article_61064e9a-27b0-5f28-b6d1-a57c8b2aaaf6.html

In its Jan. 31 memo to legislators on the condition of the state's budget, the Fiscal Bureau determined that the state will end the year with a balance of $121.4 million.

To the extent that there is an imbalance -- Walker claims there is a $137 million deficit -- it is not because of a drop in revenues or increases in the cost of state employee contracts, benefits or pensions. It is because Walker and his allies pushed through $140 million in new spending for special-interest groups in January.
You can read the fiscal bureaus report here (PDF). It holds that "more than half" of the new shortfall comes from three of Walker's initiatives: http://legis.wisconsin.gov/lfb/Misc/2011_01_31Vos&Darling.pdf

•$25 million for an economic development fund for job creation, which still holds $73 million because of anemic job growth.

•$48 million for private health savings accounts -- a perennial Republican favorite.


•$67 million for a tax incentive plan that benefits employers, but at levels too low to spur hiring.

In essence, public workers are being asked to pick up the tab for this agenda. "The provisions in his bill do two things simultaneously," Norman says. "They remove bargaining rights, and having accomplished that, make changes in the benefit packages." That's how Walker's plan saves money. And when it's all said and done, these workers will have lost their bargaining rights going forward in perpetuity.





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Re: Wisconsin Gov. Walker Ginned Up Budget Shortfall To Undercut Worker Rights
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2011, 01:22:00 PM »
3 billion is considered no big deal only by the far left.

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Re: Wisconsin Gov. Walker Ginned Up Budget Shortfall To Undercut Worker Rights
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2011, 01:30:27 PM »
3 billion is considered no big deal only by the far left.

the first thing he did was give give tax cuts to his special interest cronies and then he screamed we're broke and so that he could try to break the unions

btw - I'm all for having government employees contribute to their retirement and health care and my personal views are probably more strident than most republicans but this action by Walker is just a ploy to eliminate the collective bargaining power of the specific public employee unions

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Re: Wisconsin Gov. Walker Ginned Up Budget Shortfall To Undercut Worker Rights
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2011, 01:35:22 PM »
if that shit is true support for him is going to go down the tubes

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Re: Wisconsin Gov. Walker Ginned Up Budget Shortfall To Undercut Worker Rights
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2011, 01:47:04 PM »
if that shit is true support for him is going to go down the tubes

48% Back GOP Governor in Wisconsin Spat, 38% Side With Unions
Monday, February 21, 2011

A sizable number of voters are following new Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker’s showdown with unionized public employees in his state, and nearly half side with the governor.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 48% of Likely U.S. Voters agree more with the Republican governor in his dispute with union workers. Thirty-eight percent (38%) agree more with the unionized public employees, while 14% are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

In an effort to close the state’s sizable budget deficit, Walker is proposing to eliminate collective bargaining for public employees including teachers on everything but wage issues. He is excluding public safety workers such as policemen and firemen from his plan.

Thirty-eight percent (38%) of voters think teachers, firemen and policemen should be allowed to go on strike, but 49% disagree and believe they should not have that right. Thirteen percent (13%) are not sure.

There’s strong partisan disagreement on both questions and a wide gap between the Political Class and Mainstream voters.

Thirty-six percent (36%) of all voters say that in their state the average public employee earns more than the average private sector worker. Twenty-one percent (21%) say the government employee earns less, while 20% think their pay is about the same. Twenty-three percent (23%) are not sure.

With states across the country finding that benefits for public workers are becoming difficult to fund in the current economic climate, support for public employee unions has fallen.  Forty-five percent (45%) of Americans favor them, and 45% don’t. These findings include 21% who Strongly Favor such unions and 30% who are Strongly Opposed to them.

(Want a free daily e-mail update? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.

The survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on February 18-19, 2011 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

Fifty percent (50%) of voters favor reducing their home state’s government payroll by one percent a year for 10 years either by reducing the number of state employees or by cutting the pay of state workers.

Twenty-eight percent (28%) oppose a cut of this nature, while another 23% aren’t sure about it.

In a survey last month, voters were evenly divided over the idea of a 10% across-the-board pay cut for all state employees to help reduce overall spending.

Public employee unions have long been strong supporters, financially and otherwise, of Democratic Party candidates, so it’s no surprise that 68% of Democrats support the union workers in the Wisconsin dispute.

Sixty-eight percent (68%) of Republicans and 56% of voters not affiliated with either of the major political parties side with the governor.

Most Democrats (54%) say teachers, firemen and policemen should be allowed to go on strike. The majority of GOP voters (62%) and unaffiliateds (58%) disagree.

While 61% of Republicans and 56% of unaffiliated voters like the idea of a one percent reduction in their state’s government payroll for the next 10 years, a plurality (41%) of Democrats are opposed.

The Political Class’ opposition is more emphatic. Sixty-four percent (64%) of Political Class voters oppose a payroll cut of this kind, while 56% of those in the Mainstream think it’s a good idea.

But then 56% of Mainstream voters agree more with the governor in the Wisconsin dispute, while 56% of the Political Class side with the union workers.

Sixty-seven percent (67%) of all voters say they are following at least somewhat closely news reports about the Wisconsin governor’s effort to limit collective bargaining rights for most state employees, with 37% who are following Very Closely.

With new Republican majorities in both chambers of Wisconsin’s legislature, the governor’s plan is likely to pass, prompting thousands of protesting public workers and their allies to descend on the state capital.

President Obama and the Rev. Jesse Jackson, among others, have publicly sided with the protestors, while national Republicans have backed the governor.

A sizable majority of Americans say their states are now having major budget problems, and they think spending cuts, not higher taxes, are the solution.

Most voters continue to oppose federal bailouts for financially troubled states.  Voters aren’t thrilled with the idea of letting states declare bankruptcy, but they're more supportive if told government employees might have their pensions reduced in the process.

Seventy-eight percent (78%) of Americans say politicians’ unwillingness to reduce government spending is to blame for the budget crises in many states.

When it comes to the nation’s historic-level federal budget deficit, 70% of all voters think voters are more willing to make the hard choices needed to reduce government spending than elected politicians are.

Sixty-six percent (66%) of all voters nationwide favor a proposal to cut the federal payroll by 10% over the coming decade.

Sixty-eight percent (68%) of Americans think workers in the private sector work harder than government workers.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/february_2011/48_back_gop_governor_in_wisconsin_spat_38_side_with_unions


That has to sting.

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Re: Wisconsin Gov. Walker Ginned Up Budget Shortfall To Undercut Worker Rights
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2011, 01:59:08 PM »
States are broke and taxpayers are sick of paying higher taxes to fund these whiners, what is so hard to grasp? 

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Re: Wisconsin Gov. Walker Ginned Up Budget Shortfall To Undercut Worker Rights
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2011, 02:11:09 PM »
Why do public sector teachers need a union in the first place? And what exactly are workers "rights"? Strange how when the Unions get shown for the greedy fucks they actually are, then workers "rights" are being attacked ::) Not to say politicians are any better, neither produce shit, and judging by how well our students do comparatively, the teachers are over paid.
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Re: Wisconsin Gov. Walker Ginned Up Budget Shortfall To Undercut Worker Rights
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2011, 02:20:38 PM »
Public sector unions are a wmd for the taxpayer.

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Re: Wisconsin Gov. Walker Ginned Up Budget Shortfall To Undercut Worker Rights
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2011, 04:54:03 PM »
LOL this is like obama and the dems passing a shit stimulus bill loaded with pet projects and then complaining about the debt...

to bad straw and lurker didnt have a problem with that ;)

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Re: Wisconsin Gov. Walker Ginned Up Budget Shortfall To Undercut Worker Rights
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2011, 05:10:06 PM »
In case you don't get it.  Take 7 minutes and maybe you'll understand.

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Re: Wisconsin Gov. Walker Ginned Up Budget Shortfall To Undercut Worker Rights
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2011, 05:44:37 PM »
The USA, as we know it, is over.

Someone turn off the lights on the way out.

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Re: Wisconsin Gov. Walker Ginned Up Budget Shortfall To Undercut Worker Rights
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2011, 05:52:53 PM »
States are broke and taxpayers are sick of paying higher taxes to fund these whiners, what is so hard to grasp?  

I pay 15k (16k next year) in property taxes and I AM NOT sick of paying the highest taxes in NY State.

The reason: I make a loooooot more money by working in NY State.

I've always said: If you don't like it, leave.

Sell your shit in another state.

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Re: Wisconsin Gov. Walker Ginned Up Budget Shortfall To Undercut Worker Rights
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2011, 05:56:03 PM »
I pay 15k (16k next year) in property taxes and I am not sick of paying the highest taxes in NY State.

The reason: I make a loooooot more money by working in NY State.

I've always said: If you don't like it, leave.

Sell your shit in another state.


holy shit 16 grand in property taxes  :o

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Re: Wisconsin Gov. Walker Ginned Up Budget Shortfall To Undercut Worker Rights
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2011, 05:59:45 PM »

holy shit 16 grand in property taxes  :o

Yes, but we (between my wife and I ) also make about 15 times that much though.

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Re: Wisconsin Gov. Walker Ginned Up Budget Shortfall To Undercut Worker Rights
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2011, 06:08:16 PM »
yeah i guess it's all relevant

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Re: Wisconsin Gov. Walker Ginned Up Budget Shortfall To Undercut Worker Rights
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2011, 06:20:19 PM »
Slapper - not everyone can earn 200k a year. 

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Re: Wisconsin Gov. Walker Ginned Up Budget Shortfall To Undercut Worker Rights
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2011, 10:55:35 AM »
I pay 15k (16k next year) in property taxes and I AM NOT sick of paying the highest taxes in NY State.

The reason: I make a loooooot more money by working in NY State.

I've always said: If you don't like it, leave.

Sell your shit in another state.

A lot of people businesses are doing just that. And, a lot of New Yorkers are hurting because of it.

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Re: Wisconsin Gov. Walker Ginned Up Budget Shortfall To Undercut Worker Rights
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2011, 02:57:29 PM »
Slappers wife is beneficiary to this craziness so 16k is nothing compared to the windfall they reap in return. 

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Racine County inmates to do jobs previously done by unionized employees (Wisconsin)
WITI-TV ^ | 11:54 a.m. CDT, June 30, 2011 | Tami Hughes
Posted on July 1, 2011 12:03:11 AM EDT by Dominic01

Some unions who didn't have a contract in place, lost some of their power as Governor Walker's collective bargaining changes begin to take effect. In Racine County, it means inmates doing some of the work unions had previously bargained for.

Last June, the county took Racine inmates out of their jail cells and put them behind lawn movers. They were cutting the grass in areas that the county executive says were neglected, due to budget cuts. Local unions filed a grievance saying work like that should be done by union members...

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the first thing he did was give give tax cuts to his special interest cronies and then he screamed we're broke and so that he could try to break the unions

btw - I'm all for having government employees contribute to their retirement and health care and my personal views are probably more strident than most republicans but this action by Walker is just a ploy to eliminate the collective bargaining power of the specific public employee unions

The unions aren't broken; they just can't extort that taxpayers anymore. And, now people DO NOT HAVE TO JOIN public-sector unions anymore (which will cut into the Dems' campaign funds, a major reason why they're bellyaching about this).

The collective barganing "power", if you will, is GONE. As predicted, Prosser kept his Wisconsin Supreme Court seat; and, as predicted, he was the tiebreaker vote to overturn that Dane County judge's ruling and uphold Walker's collective-bargaining law.