Most Prohormones May be Gone in SIX Months!

[Disgusted]

I don't know exactly what kind of CoQ-10 he takes but whatever it is it's working. Literally night and day. Has had those heart problems in over a year when he use to get it every few weeks. And yes, I did know about those statin drugs. It was one of the selling points we'd use to sell CoQ-10.

I know that CoQ-10 has not been shown to increase ejection fraction, BUT for your Uncles palps I'm sure of it's effectivness. Puritan's Pride sells UB for cheap.

[pellius]

pellius, in another 9 months you won't be able to buy an incandecsant light bulb. you'll have to buy one filled with toxic murcury 

They take and take and take. We are no longer people to the ellites, we are an animal population that they control more and more

Yes, I know of this. How do they get away with it?!!

We let them. People have gotten very comfortable turning over their lives to someone else. To not be responsible for themselves. I remember reading once where Arnold said that he started to realize at an early age that people like to be led. To put their fate in someone else's hand. To be told what to do.

[OneMoreRep]

I remember reading once where Arnold said that he started to realize at an early age that people like to be led. To put their fate in someone else's hand. To be told what to do.

Arnold is/was absolutely right.

What allowed for Arnold to prosper as much as he has is the fact that the vast majority of people are emotionally and mentally fragile/weak.  He exploited these weaknesses to his advantage and look how far he got.

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[Alexander D]

BTW where has w8 been?! I'm waiting for her to come lick my asshole.

[Nails]

BTW where has w8 been?! I'm waiting for her to come lick my asshole.

 

[Master Blaster]

Pellius- you are absolutely right. The problem is that many of the supplements available over the counter aren't meeting label claims. Not just talking about fancy marketing "Lose 20lbs in 1 month with this product" or "Gain 432x more muscle with this creatine than Brand X)... but dosages are often incorrect- overdosed, underdosed. There are often fillers and preservatives in many of these products also. If you have iron deficiency anemia- do you want to take quality pharmaceutical grade iron tablets where you can be sure they have met industry standards, or potentially buy an iron supplement over the counter that may either not be the correct dose, or have other crap inside of it? I’m sure your answer is- id like to buy it over the counter and know what I am buying is what it says on the label, right?

I mean it’s the same as buying quality Upjohn Testosterone from a US pharmacy vs going to Mexico and risk buying crap. Dollar for dollar if you are spending your money, you want to make sure you are buying legit stuff. There are some really good supplement companies out there, with long track records of offering good products, but there are also really shitty companies that have no business selling anything for people to consume.

I am very against a huge government, but I do think it’s about time the supplement company nuts up and gets rid of the retarded ads and improves their quality control. If it means having the FDA regulate their products, so be it.

Interesting that you mentioned testosterone, as IT IS FUCKING SCEDULE III

Irony much?

[Alexander D]

Interesting that you mentioned testosterone, as IT IS FUCKING SCEDULE III

Irony much?

Ok I know this and?

My point is would you rather get your testosterone from a US pharmacy, or buy it from some home brewer, or go to mexico and risk buying fake crap?

[Alexander D]

w8 baby, im waiting for you home girl. You me, a bottle of ky jelly, my Richard Nixon mask and some rap music

[Master Blaster]

Ok and?

My point is would you rather get your testosterone from a pharmacy, or buy it from some home brewer, or go to mexico and risk buying fake crap?

I can't get testosterone from a pharmacy....because it's illeagal, so I HAVE to go to mexico and get some UG dog shit

[Alexander D]

I can't get testosterone from a pharmacy....because it's illeagal, so I HAVE to go to mexico and get some UG dog shit

Sucks to be you. It's not illegal if you have a legit reason for needing it. And given that you use steroids already, if you had a brain you'd figure out a way to get a doctor in the states to prescribe it for you, and check your labs monthly etc... but, you are a getbigger, and we all dumb nigguhs with no education here.

[pellius]

Ok I know this and?

My point is would you rather get your testosterone from a US pharmacy, or buy it from some home brewer, or go to mexico and risk buying fake crap?

I look at supplements as FOOD supplements. It's just like buying food in a grocery store. Remember the claim that eating X number of bowls of oatmeal will lower your cholesterol by X percent? "A can of almonds is all we ask?" that are sure to prevent heart attacks.

When I buy my frozen breaded chicken strips I personally don't know if it contains what it says it does or if it contains pieces of rat tails and saw dust as filler. I don't know first hand if my protein powder contains 30 grams of protein per serving. I have to think for myself and go with proven brands that have been around for a while. When I buy my moo goo gai pan I don't go to some roach infested dive in China town that claims all fresh ingredients, no msg. and no cat meat.

Is it 100% full proof. No, but life isn't suppose to be.

The price, expense, and the freedoms that we surrender to guarantee that everything is 100% safe is not worth it. I don't want to spend $100 for a jug of protein powder because now it has the government's stamp of approval. A government that I don't fully trust anyway.  

[Disgusted]

Yep no chance for the carefully monitored pharmaceutical drugs to ever be under dosed.   This is not as uncommon as you may think.

Recall of Two Lots of Cytomel 25 mcg (Liothyronine) Tablets

King Pharmaceuticals, Inc has voluntarily recalled two lot numbers of Cytomel 25 mcg (Liothyronine Sodium) Tablets with product code number NDC 60793-116-0. Lot numbers 52215 (exp 09/2009) and 52216 (exp 09/2009) are being recalled because the tablets of these lot numbers were sub-potent (contained less than the labeled strength) 12 months after manufacturing. This recall notice only applies to these two lot numbers.

Cytomel is the brand name for liothyronine and is used primarily to treat hypothyroidism. No other Cytomel or liothyronine lot numbers were involved in this recall.

For more information, please visit:

more information here

Source: FDA
Publication Date: 2009-10-23
Last Updated: 2009-12-05

[pellius]

I can't get testosterone from a pharmacy....because it's illeagal, so I HAVE to go to mexico and get some UG dog shit

Exactly. Far, far more people get their testosterone through the black market than through legal channels. Whenever you restrict free commerce you encourage a black market and crime.

[pellius]

Sucks to be you. It's not illegal if you have a legit reason for needing it. And given that you use steroids already, if you had a brain you'd figure out a way to get a doctor in the states to prescribe it for you, and check your labs monthly etc... but, you are a getbigger, and we all dumb nigguhs with no education here.

Doctors operating within the law is not going to prescribe steroids in the amounts that bodybuilders use.

[pellius]

Yep no chance for the carefully monitored pharmaceutical drugs to ever be under dosed.   This is not as uncommon as you may think.

Recall of Two Lots of Cytomel 25 mcg (Liothyronine) Tablets

King Pharmaceuticals, Inc has voluntarily recalled two lot numbers of Cytomel 25 mcg (Liothyronine Sodium) Tablets with product code number NDC 60793-116-0. Lot numbers 52215 (exp 09/2009) and 52216 (exp 09/2009) are being recalled because the tablets of these lot numbers were sub-potent (contained less than the labeled strength) 12 months after manufacturing. This recall notice only applies to these two lot numbers.

Cytomel is the brand name for liothyronine and is used primarily to treat hypothyroidism. No other Cytomel or liothyronine lot numbers were involved in this recall.

For more information, please visit:

more information here

Source: FDA
Publication Date: 2009-10-23
Last Updated: 2009-12-05

Eye opening post, Disgust. (May I call you "Disgust"?) 

[Alexander D]

I look at supplements as FOOD supplements. It's just like buying food in a grocery store. Remember the claim that eating X number of bowls of oatmeal will lower your cholesterol by X percent? "A can of almonds is all we ask?" that are sure to prevent heart attacks.

When I buy my frozen breaded chicken strips I personally don't know if it contains what it says it does or if it contains pieces of rat tails and saw dust as filler. I don't know first hand if my protein powder contains 30 grams of protein per serving. I have to think for myself and go with proven brands that have been around for a while. When I buy my moo goo gai pan I don't go to some roach infested dive in China town that claims all fresh ingredients, no msg. and no cat meat.

Is it 100% full proof. No, but life isn't suppose to be.

The price, expense, and the freedoms that we surrender to guarantee that everything is 100% safe is not worth it. I don't want to spend $100 for a jug of protein powder because now it has the government's stamp of approval. A government that I don't fully trust anyway.  

you def make valid points... Can't argue with ya. You obviously are intelligent enough to think for yourself. It's a shame 85% of this world isn't.

I've personally seen people fuck themselves up big time with OTC products. I've seen 20 year old army guys die from strokes and MI from taking big doses of ephedra. It’s a billion dollar industry with lots of hype and garbage floating around. Open any bodybuilding mag, or watch TV and you will see some retarded shit. Like COLON clensing. LOL what a joke. Something needs to be changed...

[Master Blaster]

Doctors operating within the law is not going to prescribe steroids in the amounts that bodybuilders use.

He just keeps moving the goal posts. He's more concerned with "winning" an on-line discussion, then the ongoing loss of personal freedoms we are experiencing

[Alexander D]

Yep no chance for the carefully monitored pharmaceutical drugs to ever be under dosed.   This is not as uncommon as you may think.

Recall of Two Lots of Cytomel 25 mcg (Liothyronine) Tablets

King Pharmaceuticals, Inc has voluntarily recalled two lot numbers of Cytomel 25 mcg (Liothyronine Sodium) Tablets with product code number NDC 60793-116-0. Lot numbers 52215 (exp 09/2009) and 52216 (exp 09/2009) are being recalled because the tablets of these lot numbers were sub-potent (contained less than the labeled strength) 12 months after manufacturing. This recall notice only applies to these two lot numbers.

Cytomel is the brand name for liothyronine and is used primarily to treat hypothyroidism. No other Cytomel or liothyronine lot numbers were involved in this recall.

For more information, please visit:

more information here

Source: FDA
Publication Date: 2009-10-23
Last Updated: 2009-12-05

Jim- sure. I never said this doesn't happen. But compare big pharma drugs to just about any sports supplement company. Who has more I&D, research, quality control... etc

I never ever said big pharma doesn't fuck up. But if im going to buy my t3/t4 you better believe damn well id sooner buy it from big pharma than by Optimum nutritions Cytomar or whatever junk product they are selling that claims to be "just as good as the real thing"

[Disgusted]

Eye opening post, Disgust. (May I call you "Disgust"?) 

LOL Of course.

[Alexander D]

He just keeps moving the goal posts. He's more concerned with "winning" an on-line discussion, then the ongoing loss of personal freedoms we are experiencing

that is EXACTLY what you are doing. First you say supplements are just as good as whole food, then you say they are better than whole food, then you cry on getbig about the entire universe being under control by big brother.

I never said i am not upset about a big government and that we have gotten to a point where we NEED the FDA to get involved...

You guys crack me up. Hey its been a while since anyone called me a nigg@r or told me i dont even have a GED. Here let me help you. Alex, you are a nigguh and no way in hell could you have graduated from medical school.

ok thanks!

[Disgusted]

Jim- sure. I never said this doesn't happen. But compare big pharma drugs to just about any sports supplement company. Who has more I&D, research, quality control... etc

I never ever said big pharma doesn't fuck up. But if im going to buy my t3/t4 you better believe damn well id sooner buy it from big pharma than by Optimum nutritions Cytomar or whatever junk product they are selling that claims to be "just as good as the real thing"

I think this whole thing stated about you saying that the body can only absorb a certain amount of particular vitamin which is not true. With that aside here what I honestly think. I think that every company should be held to a certain standard and actually they are. Who was it that got sued for the wrong kind of creatine in their product? I think it was BSN, but don't quote me. But just pulling everything is certainly not in the best interest of anyone but the pharma industry. If someone wants to buy cowballs then fine, just don't make any claims about them.

[Alexander D]

I think this whole thing stated about you saying that the body can only absorb a certain amount of particular vitamin which is not true. With that aside here what I honestly think. I think that every company should be held to a certain standard and actually they are. Who was it that got sued for the wrong kind of creatine in their product? I think it was BSN, but don't quote me. But just pulling everything is certainly not in the best interest of anyone but the pharma industry. If someone wants to buy cowballs then fine, just don't make any claims about them.

Ok so, if it isn't true... Why haven't you posted WHY it isn't true? You'd think if you disagree with me so strongly and truly believe you are correct, that you would be able to state exactly why.

I never claimed to be perfect or stated that I cannot learn something new that I didn't know. I'm not a nutritionist by any means, but im pretty sure my knowledge of basic science is good enough to have gotten me this far in life.

You give a LOT of medical advice on here about drugs to take, what drugs not to take, but do you have any educational background to back up what you telling people to do? Other than being an "EXPERT" on getbig? I mean no disrespect, I simply don't know who/what you are.

BTW- i will not sleep until I hear from w8m8! where are you baby gurl?! I wanna feel those A cups

[HTexan]

why do you need multi vitamin?

eat food

get legit gh it is will give you all the multi anything you want,,

gh15 approved

Cus the earth has been overused to feed the worlds growing population, that the soil nutrients Will never again be at adequate levels. Veggies and fruit doesn't have the nutrition they once had.

Texas approved

[Master Blaster]

you def make valid points... Can't argue with ya. You obviously are intelligent enough to think for yourself. It's a shame 85% of this world isn't.

I've personally seen people fuck themselves up big time with OTC products. I've seen 20 year old army guys die from strokes and MI from taking big doses of ephedra. It’s a billion dollar industry with lots of hype and garbage floating around. Open any bodybuilding mag, or watch TV and you will see some retarded shit. Like COLON clensing. LOL what a joke. Something needs to be changed...

Ephedra has only been linked to 155 deaths, but you've personally seen MULTIPLE 20 year olds die from it. Statistically speaking, thats pretty amazing. You have a knack for being around ephedra deaths. Maybe it's one of your specialties.

[Master Blaster]

First you say supplements are just as good as whole food, then you say they are better than whole food, then you cry on getbig about the entire universe being under control by big brother.

I think you have me confused with someone else?