Author Topic: Caffeine+creatine=epic cramps (Read 4353 times)

lovemonkey · « **on:** February 23, 2011, 02:58:36 PM »

Everything from my abdominals to my toes to my trapz started cramping today. Is this common? Creatine has given me slight cramps before but nothing like the ones I had today. Caffeine might be more potent in that regard than I previously thought. I tried to drink plenty water but didn't seem to help.

Discuss.

225for70 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 23, 2011, 02:59:45 PM »

How much did you take? Also what form of creatine did you use?

lovemonkey · « **Reply #2 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:01:19 PM »

Quote from: 225for70 on February 23, 2011, 02:59:45 PM

How much did you take? Also what form of creatine did you use?

Caffeine 200mg twice a day(morning and before workout/cardio).

Regular creatine monohydrate, roughly 5 grams two times a day.

G_Thang · « **Reply #3 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:07:18 PM »

Quote from: lovemonkey on February 23, 2011, 02:58:36 PM

Everything from my abdominals to my toes to my trapz started cramping today. Is this common? Creatine has given me slight cramps before but nothing like the ones I had today. Caffeine might be more potent in that regard than I previously thought. I tried to drink plenty water but didn't seem to help.

Discuss.

NO SUPPLEMENT CONTRACT!

NO $10 PHOTOS!

NO PAYING SCHMOES!

But still experimenting on yourself like a bber. I dont get it

lovemonkey · « **Reply #4 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:09:44 PM »

Quote from: G_Thang on February 23, 2011, 03:07:18 PM

NO SUPPLEMENT CONTRACT!

NO $10 PHOTOS!

NO PAYING SCHMOES!

But still experimenting on yourself like a bber. I dont get it

Yeah caffeine and creatine is totally in the same ballpark as hormones, hgh, insulin and diuretics + weighing way too much. Totally.

225for70 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:12:35 PM »

Try lowering the dosages and taking the creatine at different times..I think you can get by with 2-5grams a day..

lovemonkey · « **Reply #6 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:15:08 PM »

Quote from: 225for70 on February 23, 2011, 03:12:35 PM

Try lowering the dosages and taking the creatine at different times..I think you can get by with 2-5grams a day..

Yeah I was wondering about the creatine dose.. might have been a slight overkill.

225for70 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:18:02 PM »

Quote from: lovemonkey on February 23, 2011, 03:15:08 PM

Yeah I was wondering about the creatine dose.. might have been a slight overkill.

do not read what the supplement companies tell you.There goal is sell you more and more of it.I think for someone of your weight you may be fine with low dosages...In example 3-5 grams is enough.

Master Blaster · « **Reply #8 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:18:07 PM »

could it be dehydration?

LatsMcGee · « **Reply #9 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:18:23 PM »

Just up your fluids and electrolytes, that should solve the problem....

I take creatine and caffeine together but I also drink alot of water, something as simple as adding some celtic sea salt to your water could solve your problem....

Mr Anabolic · « **Reply #10 on:** February 23, 2011, 03:39:07 PM »

400 mg/day is way too much caffeine. You need to find your tolerance level. You should have started small, say 50-100 mgs.

Creatine dose is also probably too high. Don't take it more than twice a day... any more is just a waste.

Drink 3-4 liters of filtered water per day.

Invest in a good chelated multi-mineral supplement. Take it twice a day. That should take care of any cramps.

DK II · « **Reply #11 on:** February 23, 2011, 05:46:35 PM »

Quote from: lovemonkey on February 23, 2011, 03:15:08 PM

Yeah I was wondering about the creatine dose.. might have been a slight overkill.

5g is fine once a day, just drink more and take a magnesium supplement.

If you cramp, magnesium and/or water intake is too low. Nothing to do with the creatine and caffeine.

kiwiol · « **Reply #12 on:** February 23, 2011, 05:49:55 PM »

You're toying with your life by stacking Creatine with Caffeine - it's as dangerous as Pop rocks and soda

DK II · « **Reply #13 on:** February 23, 2011, 05:53:24 PM »

Quote from: kiwiol on February 23, 2011, 05:49:55 PM

You're toying with your life by stacking Creatine with Caffeine - it's as dangerous as Pop rocks and soda

Enjoy it while it lasts, both will be banned in the US for otc sale soon anyways, then you can get creatine only by prescription if you have low ATP levels, cost is 1500$ per kg.

Coffee will be even worse, you can buy it in a "coffehouse" "to go" for 1.55$ per cup.

LatsMcGee · « **Reply #14 on:** February 23, 2011, 05:56:39 PM »

I hear early next year the feds are going to assign everyone in America with a gym membership a parole officer to report to post workout for random drug tests......

Gotta get that Cell Tech off the streets, think of the children.

DK II · « **Reply #15 on:** February 23, 2011, 06:11:06 PM »

Quote from: LatsMcGee on February 23, 2011, 05:56:39 PM

I hear early next year the feds are going to assign everyone in America with a gym membership a parole officer to report to post workout for random drug tests......

Gotta get that Cell Tech off the streets, think of the children.

That's a great idea.

I would say it would be even better if you were able to arrest bodybuilders on sight, because they all abuse steroids.

Ropo · « **Reply #16 on:** February 24, 2011, 11:44:59 AM »

Quote from: lovemonkey on February 23, 2011, 02:58:36 PM

Everything from my abdominals to my toes to my trapz started cramping today. Is this common? Creatine has given me slight cramps before but nothing like the ones I had today. Caffeine might be more potent in that regard than I previously thought. I tried to drink plenty water but didn't seem to help.

Discuss.

It is quite common among idiots and fools, who doesn't know anything about nutrients and minerals. You don't need just water, you need magnesium, potassium etc. to keep up the balance in your system. If you ignore that fact, just enjoy your cramps and shut up.

Tito24 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 24, 2011, 11:50:17 AM »

lovemonkey · « **Reply #18 on:** February 24, 2011, 12:28:43 PM »

Quote from: Ropo on February 24, 2011, 11:44:59 AM

It is quite common among idiots and fools, who doesn't know anything about nutrients and minerals. You don't need just water, you need magnesium, potassium etc. to keep up the balance in your system. If you ignore that fact, just enjoy your cramps and shut up.

So that would be the reason why I asked for information by making this thread since I was not sure what was going on with my body. A fool would keep doing the same thing and expect different results.

You're way too full of yourself, douche.

mass243 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 24, 2011, 12:38:22 PM »

WUT?
Ain't caffeine acting like a diuretic? And ain't creatine storing water in your body?

You shouldn't be on caffeine when doing creatine. Simple as that. Taking caffeine will decrease the potential benefits of creatine.

lovemonkey · « **Reply #20 on:** February 24, 2011, 12:40:41 PM »

Quote from: mass243 on February 24, 2011, 12:38:22 PM

WUT?
Ain't caffeine acting like a diuretic? And ain't creatine storing water in your body?

You shouldn't be on caffeine when doing creatine. Simple as that. Taking caffeine will decrease the potential benefits of creatine.

My thinking is that I should be able to drink a tad bit more water to compensate for the diuretic effect of the caffeine, so the creatine will still be able to do its "magic".

dr.chimps · « **Reply #21 on:** February 24, 2011, 12:41:12 PM »

Quote from: kiwiol on February 23, 2011, 05:49:55 PM

You're toying with your life by stacking Creatine with Caffeine - it's as dangerous as Pop rocks and soda

I knew a guy who knew a guy whose brother died by doing that.

lovemonkey · « **Reply #22 on:** February 24, 2011, 12:43:55 PM »

Quote from: dr.chimps on February 24, 2011, 12:41:12 PM

I knew a guy who knew a guy whose brother died by doing that.

My dad died doing creatine.

tom joad · « **Reply #23 on:** February 24, 2011, 12:49:15 PM »

Quote from: lovemonkey on February 24, 2011, 12:43:55 PM

My dad died doing creatine.

I nearly died doing your mom.

lovemonkey · « **Reply #24 on:** February 24, 2011, 12:52:58 PM »

Quote from: tom joad on February 24, 2011, 12:49:15 PM

I nearly died doing your mom.

I wished I was dead when doing your mom.