stavios update 18 weeks out from his show

[Stavios]

stopped taking test 3 weeks ago fellas, I am now on trenbolone-equipoise only
weight dropped A LOT (8 pounds actually), but I have been sick so maybe I am only dehydrated a bit.

I'll wait a few days to tell you guys how it goes.

I am dieting another month with "low" carbs before adding insulin for 2 weeks to see how I look fully carbed.

weight as of this morning was 200 lbs (very depleted tho)

having a cheat day today so I should be 207-208 tommorow normally.

no libido loss yet (reason I am doing this is I want to achieve the middle east ripped look)

[spude]

So you're going to be without test for 18 weeks?
Btw, why don't you give us some pics to see how you look like in the beginning of your prep?

[Stavios]

So you're going to be without test for 18 weeks?
Btw, why don't you give us some pics to see how you look like in the beginning of your prep?

I don't have any pics, I might take some soon.

but that's the thing, I am not at the beginning of my prep.

I have been dieting for 5-6 months already, slowly ( I was only dieting the week and eating whatever I wanted on the weekend)

yes, I will go without test for the whole 18 weeks, and I will add som anadrol the last month as Buselmo and Van Bilderass suggested to give me a "full" look without the bloat.
(at this point I'll be fully carbed also since I'll start insulin at around 12 weeks out , maybe at 8 weeks out depending on how low my bodyfat will be)

[Meso_z]

Cool man! please keep a log so we can look at your progress..but make sure none of your competitors are reading it. lol
Whats your daily diet?

[Stavios]

Cool man! please keep a log so we can look at your progress..but make sure none of your competitors are reading it. lol
Whats your daily diet?

I'll keep this thread upated for sure, don't know when the pics will come in but surely soon enough.

my diet is like this at the moment.
Monday trough Friday:

meal 1: 16 egg whites
Meal 2: 60gr protein
Meal3: 300 gr lean ground beef with veggies  like brocoli or celeri sticks.
meal4: 200gr lean ground beef with 4 slices of ezekiel bread (I make myself some kind of hamburgers)
TRAIN
meal 5: 60 gr protein with a 100gr carbo drink
meal6: either 2 tuna cans, or another protein shake depending if I am hungry or not

Saturday: I eat whatever I want, I try to only eat 4 meals tho since those are complete shit meals (pizza, fries, whatever I want).


I am not sure when I will cut back on the saturday cheat day, probably when I'll add the insulin since I might eat more carbs the rest of the week.

don't know yet it's a big experiment this year

[makaveli25]

Good luck bro. I want to try a cycle without test. I feel like everytime I use test I got so freaken bloated (bloofy) I don't like equipose though so I'm not sure what I would use as a base. I wonder how a higer dose of masteron would compare to equipose.

[Stavios]

Good luck bro. I want to try a cycle without test. I feel like everytime I use test I got so freaken bloated (bloofy) I don't like equipose though so I'm not sure what I would use as a base. I wonder how a higer dose of masteron would compare to equipose.

my face looks 10 times better when I drop the test for sure !

I'd try masteron but too expensive and not dosed strong enough at 100mg per ml :s

[spude]

Ok...that actually looks kinda interesting, i was also "forced" to drop test 2 weeks back and honestly look a lot better now...
you have gh there too or is it just trenbolona equipona?
i sure as hell will follow your progress if you only keep us posted

[Stavios]

Ok...that actually looks kinda interesting, i was also "forced" to drop test 2 weeks back and honestly look a lot better now...
you have gh there too or is it just trenbolona equipona?
i sure as hell will follow your progress if you only keep us posted

I have gh in there but only at 2iu for the moment so it wasn't worth mentionning at this dose. I started at 10iu for december and january but I started lacking funds due tu having more bills to pay, so I dropped the dose until I can buy some more boxes.

[Meso_z]

any ai's? Also, any "fatburners"?

[Stavios]

any ai's? Also, any "fatburners"?

I haven't taken any fatburners since last wek because I was sick and I had enough trouble sleeping already.

I'll start them again tommorow.

Clen at 50 mcg and ephedra at 60mg a day

I'll up the doses a bit every weeks.

as for cardio, I was doing tabata but I injured my hamstring a bit a the club during a fight so I am taking it easy with the legs for another week, I'll start cardio again in 2 weeks.

but I am already 200 lbs so (in my pics from my last show I was 193, to give you an idea of my current condition)

[Meso_z]

keep it up. 

[local hero]

hope you dont peak too soon, in theory you should be ripped to shreds.... one of my friends follows the very long drawn out diet approach and he always comes in nails, not sure about the no test, be intrested to see how you turn out

[Stavios]

hope you dont peak too soon, in theory you should be ripped to shreds.... one of my friends follows the very long drawn out diet approach and he always comes in nails, not sure about the no test, be intrested to see how you turn out

I still have quite a lot of bodyfat to lose and I'll actually up the calories as the show approches so I shouldn't peak too soon.

hard to say, I experiment !

[Schmoe Buster]

Keep it up Stav

Im not using Test in my cycle now and feel fine and results are coming great

[Rearden Metal]

I'm so afraid to go no test

But I'm very bloofy. I just can't imagine a world without test!

[Stavios]

I'm so afraid to go no test

But I'm very bloofy. I just can't imagine a world without test!

I was afraid too but I feel it's the only way to get the look I want !

as long as I keep my libido, it will be find but I think it's all in the head

[lesaucer]

I was afraid too but I feel it's the only way to get the look I want !

as long as I keep my libido, it will be find but I think it's all in the head

why dont you use only like 250mg test every week..plenty of libido+main male hormone in system=WIN

[Schmoe Buster]

I was afraid too but I feel it's the only way to get the look I want !

as long as I keep my libido, it will be find but I think it's all in the head

X2, it's all in the head

[claymore]

Keep it up Stav

Im not using Test in my cycle now and feel fine and results are coming great

Agreed...test is great, but you can definitely get amazing results without it.

[Rearden Metal]

I have like a billion cc's of cyp and sustanon. I just never considered going without it. What are the main differences other than just dropping water?

[Stavios]

I have like a billion cc's of cyp and sustanon. I just never considered going without it. What are the main differences other than just dropping water?

That's pretty much the only reason.


that and I have problems with some bitch tits these days that won't go away so maybe dropping the test will help.

but I agree that off-season, test is the way to go.

cheap cheap cheap and does the job

[Meso_z]

Hows strength stavios?
are you getting stronger with this diet + aas regime? Some people get stronger when dieting...i actually got stronger in the beggining of my last years diet, but after couple months strength went downhill.

[Lord of the Roidz]

Why not take a couple of Provirons a day. The DHT will keep you from getting lethargic and it will keep your libido strong. It gives you a good non aromatizing androgen in you which is important if you want to feel good when you drop test.

[Meso_z]

Why not take a couple of Provirons a day. The DHT will keep you from getting lethargic and it will keep your libido strong. It gives you a good non aromatizing androgen in you which is important if you want to feel good when you drop test.

Yes!
Note to Stavios  .
As far as i "know"  European guys use a lot of proviron, im assuming middle eastern guys too.