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why won't FOX, drudge, or other right-wing media outlets make a big deal out of this story?

Fox has been on it somewhat.  Drudge?   No clue at all. 

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Fox has been on it somewhat.  Drudge?   No clue at all. 

if this is "bigger than watergate", you'd think they'd be all over it.

FOX wants to talk about Clemens mistrial.  A retired baseball player's perjury trial is more important than the leader of the free world feeding thousands of assault rifles to drug cartels?  LOL maybe the RW media isn't your friend either, 33...

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if this is "bigger than watergate", you'd think they'd be all over it.

FOX wants to talk about Clemens mistrial.  A retired baseball player's perjury trial is more important than the leader of the free world feeding thousands of assault rifles to drug cartels?  LOL maybe the RW media isn't your friend either, 33...

Fox News is horrible.

personally, I think the news stations are scared to death of this story since it would collapse the entire govt.     

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It's not watergate.  The ATF is desperate.  Desperate for a win in the war in drugs and so is the DOJ.  They'll try anything once or twice, or thrice...

Abandon every hope...

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It's not watergate.  The ATF is desperate.  Desperate for a win in the war in drugs and so is the DOJ.  They'll try anything once or twice, or thrice...



This goes to at least holder, and according to the Ass. AG. to Obama himself. 

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Fox News is horrible.

personally, I think the news stations are scared to death of this story since it would collapse the entire govt.     

HAHAHAHA!!...oh wait..you were serious.....

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I think the news stations are scared to death of this story since it would collapse the entire govt.     

Really?

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Gunwalker: Justice Department Tampering with Witnesses?
Pajamas Media ^ | July 14, 2011 | Patrick Richardson


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Darrell Issa and Charles Grassley demand to know about contact DOJ has had with committee witnesses. Also, a source tells PJM: DOJ has picked a new fall guy to target after they failed to topple ATF Director Ken Melson.

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, and Sen. Charles Grassley, (R-IA), ranking member on the Senate Judiciary Committee, have fired off another pair of letters to Attorney General Eric Holder as part of their investigation into the Operation Fast and Furious debacle, which has claimed the lives of at least two American law enforcement agents and a reported 150 Mexican nationals.

In one letter, Issa and Grassley note that the Department of Justice has been providing information about the program to committee witnesses — which implies tampering. The other letter names DOJ officials who knew about the operation.

Per the tampering letter:

We have recently learned that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (BATF) has afforded potential witnesses for the Committees’ investigation into Operation Fast and Furious access to a shared drive on its computer system replete with pertinent investigative documents, including official ATF emails. Although, our staff has been advised the Department has since terminated access to this document cache, we write to seek additional information relating to this egregious decision. We also ask that you promptly self-report this matter to the Office of Inspector General (OIG).

As we understand it, the shared drive contains the documents that have been produced to the Committees through the course of our investigation, those made available for in camera review and possibly documents that the Department of Justice (DOJ) has not yet provided to the Committee. These witnesses had not previously seen many of these documents.

Allowing witnesses access to such documents could taint their testimony by allowing them to tailor their responses to what they think the Committees already know. Additionally, witnesses who gain access to documents they have not previously seen could alter their recollection of events. This practice harms not only our investigation, but also the independent investigation that you instructed the Inspector General to conduct.

In other words: the DOJ was either trying to make sure witness stories are consistent with DOJ talking points, or they were going through the back door to make sure everyone who was testifying was on the same page. Either would likely get the average citizen slapped with an obstruction or witness tampering charge in a state or federal court.

The hypocrisy here is egregious. According to the letter, on May 5 of this year an associate deputy attorney general expressed concern the committee “might allow witnesses exposure to documents they had not previously seen”:

To the extent that you nevertheless plan to interview our trial witnesses prior to trial, we would appreciate you taking the following steps to help reduce the risk of harm to the case that could arise from such interviews. First … we ask that you not show the witnesses new documents, as exposing the witnesses to facts that are not already within their personal knowledge may contaminate their recall of events. Second, for the same reasons, we ask that you not orally convey facts to the witness of which the witness was previously unaware.

DOJ did exactly what they asked Issa’s committee not to do.

Issa and Grassley demanded the following by July 18:

1. Identify which ATF and DOJ employees had access to this shared drive.

2. Provide a log of documents and the date each document was posted to the shared drive.

3. Provide a log of any other documents relating to this investigation, not on the shared drive, to which these employees had access.

4. Provide the dates for which these employees had access to the shared drive.

5. Identify those employees who still have access to this information.

The other letter sent to Holder names the people the committee says it knows for a fact had knowledge about Operation Fast and Furious. Of the 12 names on the list, there are a couple of particular interest. One is Lanny Breuer, former special counsel to President Bill Clinton and current assistant attorney general for the Criminal Division. Another is Deputy Assistant Attorney General Kenneth Blanco.

PJMedia has heard from sources that since DOJ’s attempt to make Acting ATF Director Ken Melson the fall guy failed when he turned King’s Evidence, DOJ is now planning to make Blanco the sacrificial lamb.

A third name of extreme interest: Gary Grindler, Eric Holder’s chief of staff.

It’s a bit difficult to believe that Holder’s chief of staff knew about this operation, but Holder didn’t.

Issa and Grassley are demanding all communications records between the 12 relating to Operation Fast and Furious.

It’s becoming increasingly difficult for Holder to claim — as he has all along – that he didn’t know about the operation until it blew up in his face. Issa and Grassley must keep pounding away until the guilty parties are hauled before a federal grand jury – the country owes Brian Terry and Jamie Zapata nothing less.

ALSO READ:Gunwalker: Smoking Gun Email?

 

Patrick Richardson is a 12 year veteran of the community newspaper business. He is that rare bird, the conservative journalist. Living his whole life in Kansas, he has come to appreciate the conservative values of hard work, honesty and honor. Patrick blogs at View from Flyover Country.

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This goes to at least holder, and according to the Ass. AG. to Obama himself. 

Maybe it goes to Holder.  Even then who knows if he understood the full scope of what was happening.  In fact i doubt very much that he did and you would not find evidence to the contrary other than hearsay.

That is why no one is picking up this story.  Once again you have let the hyperbole blind you.  I have yet to see any evidence where Obama specifically addressed this and was 100% in the know. 
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Maybe it goes to Holder.  Even then who knows if he understood the full scope of what was happening.  In fact i doubt very much that he did and you would not find evidence to the contrary other than hearsay.

That is why no one is picking up this story.  Once again you have let the hyperbole blind you.  I have yet to see any evidence where Obama specifically addressed this and was 100% in the know. 

did you watch the clip form the Ass. AG from 2009?

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did you watch the clip form the Ass. AG from 2009?

Haven't seen it and frankly don't care.  To me this reeks of police ignorance and desperation.  Nothing more. 
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Haven't seen it and frankly don't care.  To me this reeks of police ignorance and desperation.  Nothing more. 

Wrong - they were following the orders directly from obama/holder.

 

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Maybe it goes to Holder.  Even then who knows if he understood the full scope of what was happening.  In fact i doubt very much that he did and you would not find evidence to the contrary other than hearsay.

That is why no one is picking up this story.  Once again you have let the hyperbole blind you.  I have yet to see any evidence where Obama specifically addressed this and was 100% in the know. 

Its holders job to fully understand the scope of the operation, incompetence is not an acceptable answer. So far we have the assistant attorney general specifically saying under the direction of the POTUS and mentioning operation gun runner in the same press conference. So is the POTUS responsible for the people he puts into positions of power? What ever happened to the buck stops here?

Why would Obama address this 100%? Its easier to get your minions out there and deflect culpability to someone else. No one in this administration is going to say or admit anything until they have no other choice.

The fact of the matter is guns were knowingly sent into Mexico, which has resulted in deaths on both sides of the border. We also know that the DOJ is stone walling the investigation, sending redacted documents..... to the congressional oversight committee. Now we are finding out that there are multiple of these types of operations going on. Did all the field office's go rogue at the same time? Just coincidence?
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Re: PROOF AG HOLDER COMMITTED PERJURY BEFORE CONGRESS - BUSTED!!!
« Reply #513 on: July 14, 2011, 02:44:51 PM »
By Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
Thursday, July 14, 2011




Add lying to Congress about his Justice Department's "Operation Fast and Furious" scandal to the reasons why Eric Holder must be fired as U.S. attorney general.

The idiocy of Fast and Furious -- an attempt by Justice's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to link illegally sold guns with Mexican drug cartels -- became gravely clear when two such rifles were found at the scene of a Border Patrol agent's December murder.

Mr. Holder mentioned Fast and Furious essentials at an anti-arms-smuggling symposium in Mexico in April 2009. Last September, a Justice document referenced such efforts -- which received a quarter of the Obama stimulus package's special law-enforcement appropriations, followed by even more funding from the administration.

Yet Holder testified on May 3 before the House Judiciary Committee that he'd "probably" learned of Fast and Furious in "the last few weeks" -- a dishonest reply to questioning by U.S. Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif. The congressman has been doggedly pursuing Fast and Furious truth through the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which he chairs.

An attorney general who perjures himself before Congress has no business being America's chief law enforcement officer.


Read more: Holder's lies - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/s_746568.html##ixzz1S7PRvihO


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Gunwalker: Smoking Gun Email?
Pajamas Media ^ | July 13, 2011 | Patrick Richardson


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An internal ATF email seems to support the assertion that Fast and Furious was a PR stunt for gun control.

PJM’s Bob Owens has long speculated that the primary reason for Operation Fast and Furious was to perpetuate the lie that 90 percent of illegal firearms in Mexico were from the United States.


Owens’ assertion was buoyed on Wednesday by internal ATF emails obtained by Townhall.com. One email reads:

Can you see if these guns were all purchased from the same FfL and at one time. We are looking at anecdotal cases to support a demand letter on long gun multiple sales. Thanks Mark R. Chait Assistant Director Field Operations.

This would seem to be a “smoking gun” for Owens’ assertion that this operation was never about crime and always about an “under the table” effort to institute the gun control Obama knew he could never push through Congress.


Additionally, Obama has just issued an executive order which requires gun dealers in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California to report multiple long gun (rifle or shotgun) purchases to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) in order to combat illegal firearms trafficking along the Mexican border.

The National Rifle Association’s Institute for Legislative Action fired back at President Obama’s order. Chris Cox, executive director of the NRA-ILA, said they will be filing a lawsuit against the new order the first time ATF tries to enforce it. He noted that criminals generally don’t fill out forms:

$40 billion transnational criminal enterprises don’t fill out paperwork and are not deterred by paperwork violations. This is a blatant effort by the Obama administration and ATF to divert focus of Congress and the general public from their gross incompetence in the Fast and Furious scandal. This scheme will unjustly burden law-abiding retailers in border states. It will not affect drug cartels and it won’t prevent violence along our borders. ATF and the administration lack the statutory authority to do this and the NRA will file suit as soon as ATF sends the first demand letters.

Obama’s order is awash in hypocrisy per the details of the Gunwalker scandal. It was the ATF which ordered gun dealers to make multiple sales of military-style and .50 caliber sniper rifles to known and suspected straw purchasers in the Operation Fast and Furious debacle, in which more than 2,500 weapons were allowed to walk across the border by the ATF. The dealers were already reporting multiple long gun sales and the ATF told them to make the sales anyway.


Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform who has been investigating the mess form the beginning, said the executive order was about politics:

This political maneuver seems designed to protect the careers of political appointees at the Justice Department and not public safety. It’s disconcerting that Justice Department officials who may have known about or tried to cover-up gunwalking in Operation Fast and Furious are continuing attempts to distract attention from clear wrongdoing. In Operation Fast and Furious, gun dealers didn’t need this regulation as they voluntarily provided ATF agents with information about suspected straw purchasers. In return for this voluntary cooperation, the Justice Department betrayed them by offering false assurances that they would closely monitor sales of weapons that dealers otherwise did not want to make.

Sen. Charles Grassley, (R-IA), ranking member on the Senate Judiciary Committee, was equally outraged by the executive order:

We’ve learned from our investigation of Fast and Furious that reporting multiple long gun sales would do nothing to stop the flow of firearms to known straw purchasers because many Federal Firearms Dealers are already voluntarily reporting suspicious transactions. In fact, in just the documents we’ve obtained, we are aware of 150 multiple long gun sales associated with the ATF’s Fast and Furious case, and despite the fact that nearly all of these sales were reported in real time by cooperating gun dealers, the ATF watched the guns be transported from known straw purchasers to third parties and then let the guns walk away, often across the border. This makes it pretty clear that the problem isn’t lack of burdensome reporting requirements. The administration’s continued overreach with regulations continues, and is a distraction from its reckless policy to allow guns to walk into Mexico.

Two U.S. law enforcement agents are dead because of this operation, and a reported 150 Mexican citizens are as well. Additionally, the guns are now showing up in U.S. crimes.



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Maybe it goes to Holder.  Even then who knows if he understood the full scope of what was happening.  In fact i doubt very much that he did and you would not find evidence to the contrary other than hearsay.

That is why no one is picking up this story.  Once again you have let the hyperbole blind you.  I have yet to see any evidence where Obama specifically addressed this and was 100% in the know. 

So you're saying Holder is completely incompetent and has no control over his own department. Guess what, he should still be canned then.

Are you completely incapable of not sucking liberal dick for 5 minutes? You are easily one of the most partisan posters on this forum. Shameful.

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Re: PROOF AG HOLDER COMMITTED PERJURY BEFORE CONGRESS - BUSTED!!!
« Reply #516 on: July 14, 2011, 05:00:47 PM »
Should we merge all these together as a "Outragious examples of politicians and government officials who did stupid, perhaps criminal and likely unethical things, but once again got away with it" thread?   

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Re: PROOF AG HOLDER COMMITTED PERJURY BEFORE CONGRESS - BUSTED!!!
« Reply #517 on: July 14, 2011, 05:55:05 PM »
BB - can you merge this in the main Gunrunner thread? 

Done.

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Media & Congress Still Missing the Big Legal Point of the Gunwalker Scandal: it was a conspiracy
sipsey street irregulars ^ | June 22, 2011 | Retired fellow
Posted on July 14, 2011 7:59:06 PM EDT by Nachum

Hillary. Conspiring to violate the laws she swore to uphold. What did she know and when did she know it?

International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) is a set of United States government regulations that control the export and import of defense-related articles and services on the United States Munitions List (USML). These regulations implement the provisions of the Arms Export Control Act (AECA), and are described in Title 22 (Foreign Relations), Chapter I (Department of State), Subchapter M of the Code of Federal Regulations. The Department of State interprets and enforces ITAR. Its goal is to safeguard U.S. national security and further U.S. foreign policy objectives.

For practical purposes, ITAR regulations dictate that information and material pertaining to defense and military related technologies (for items listed on the U.S. Munitions List) may only be shared with U.S. Persons unless authorization from the Department of State is received or a special exemption is used. U.S. Persons (including organizations) can face heavy fines if they have, without authorization or the use of an exemption, provided foreign (non-US) persons with access to ITAR-protected defense articles, services or technical data. . .

All U.S. manufacturers, exporters, and brokers of defense articles, defense services, or related technical data, as defined on the USML, are required to register with U.S. Department of State. Registration is primarily a means to provide the U.S. Government with necessary information on who is involved in certain manufacturing and exporting activities. Registration does not confer any export rights or privileges, but is a precondition for the issuance of any license or other approval for export. Registration fees start at USD $2,250 per year.

Under ITAR, a “US person” who wants to export USML items to a “foreign person” must obtain authorization from the U.S. Department

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FOX new doesn't mention obama in their article.  Probably cause they're scared it'll collapse the entire govt.

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ATF Florida Gun Probe Earns Congressional Scrutiny in Wake of 'Fast and Furious'
Fox News ^ | 07/14/2011 | Fox News
Posted on July 14, 2011 8:20:14 PM EDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

Several lawmakers are questioning the Obama administration about whether the controversial "Fast and Furious" gunrunning probe may have had a cousin in Florida that resulted in guns being trafficked to Central America.

Rep. Gus Bilirakis, R-Fla., penned a letter Tuesday to Attorney General Eric Holder and ATF Acting Director Kenneth Melson inquiring about a program known as "Operation Castaway." Other top lawmakers are also starting to look into it, though ATF claims the program was above board and not similar to Operation Fast and Furious at all.

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Mexican newspaper Excelsior interviews me on the Phoenix, Tampa & Houston components (gunwalker)
sipseystreetirregulars ^ | 13 July, 2011 | Mike Vanderboegh
Posted on July 14, 2011 9:05:18 PM EDT by marktwain

Mexican newspaper Excelsior interviews me on the Phoenix, Tampa & Houston components of Project Gunwalker. Our guesstimate of walked firearms: 5000

Translation:

Excelsior July 8, 2011

Houston and Tampa Source of Other Contraband, They Affirm

More Agents Assert that There Are More Like Fast and Furious

The Link from the Congress to the BATF Informants Could Get to the Crime of Another 3000 Guns

Sidebar: Fast and Furious was in Arizona; another like it whose name is still unknown, was directed from the Houston field office of the BATF. Mike Vanderboegh, activist

By Carmen Alvarez

Operation Fast and Furious which was operated from Phoenix, Arizona, is only a part of the scandal – there have been other similar operations run from Houston which allowed as many as 3,000 guns to walk.

“Both operations combined account for more than 5,000 guns that ended up in the hands of Mexican criminals,” Mike Vanderboegh told Excelsior who helped get whistleblowers of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (BATF) in touch with the Senate Judiciary Committee.

“Fast and Furious was in Arizona; another operation whose name is still unknown was directed from the Field Division of BATF in Houston. Another one, (possibly) called Castaway, was operated from Tampa, Florida and let guns walk to Honduras which later ended up at crime scenes in Mexico and other countries,” he added by means of telephone from the south of the United States.

Vanderboegh, who together with his colleague David Codrea, made public the accusations of BATF agents regarding how their superiors required them to disobey their duty to intercept the guns that ended up in criminal hands in Mexico. He believes that this would not have been possible without authorization from the highest levels of the U.S. government.

“This whole affair demonstrates that Project 'Gunwalker' (Gunrunner) the antecedent of operations such as Fast and Furious and Castaway (Tampa) were part of a national strategy, and that the Field Division of the BATF in Houston incidents which occurred in Dallas and in Columbus, New Mexico, and not the Phoenix Division,” he added.

“Many people died because of the guns allowed to walk into Mexico because those who made these decisions about these operations decided to keep the Mexican government in the dark,” he said.

The affair came to light in the Texas press and in the Washington Post where it was revealed that 115 guns confiscated from the cartels did not come from Phoenix, Arizona as did the over 2000 guns from Fast and Furious, but from Texas. The publication myfoxhouston.com also carried the news.

“After that, a curtain of silence has come down in the United States,” added the citizen-journalist and activist who bumped into Project Gunwalker when he was pursuing another BATF scandal.

Dick Deguerin, the lawyer for the chain of gun stores, Carter’s Country in Houston, told Excelsior via telephone from Houston that this firm and some of his [other?] clients informed BATF of suspicious purchasers who obtained numerous assault rifles, 9mm revolvers (sic), and AK-47 rifles who paid cash, and the only thing that happened was that the authorities came back on the stores in order to blame them.

“What happened was that operations such as Fast and Furious failed miserably because the only thing they succeeded in doing was to lose the trail of the arms that were sold legally in the United States later taken to Mexico. It was a complete failure by the BATF,’ said Deguerin.

The lawyer explained that the BATF asked his client, the owner of Carter’s Country, that he cooperate by giving information to them about the operation of suspicious sales and that he continue selling guns to Hispanics who bought high-power guns and paid cash.

“My client cooperated, but BATF took all the information my client got and we never knew what they did with it,” he added.

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If links of gunwalking prove out from Texas and Florida, the whole thing cannot be covered up as a "rogue operation".
1 posted on July 14, 2011 9:05:23 PM EDT by marktwain
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Gunwalker ping.


2 posted on July 14, 2011 9:06:54 PM EDT by marktwain
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He is wrong. The operation is not a failure. It did EXACTLY what Obastard wanted it to do, increase the number of guns found in Mexico traceable back to the US so that he could claim that there was a “problem” with our gun laws.


3 posted on July 14, 2011 9:23:53 PM EDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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4 posted on July 14, 2011 9:28:59 PM EDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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You’re busier than a one legged man in a butt kicking contest!


5 posted on July 14, 2011 9:31:03 PM EDT by Tijeras_Slim
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This thing is growing like the blob, and STILL the lsm stays silent.


6 posted on July 14, 2011 9:35:19 PM EDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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Keep at it, we got Rather.


7 posted on July 14, 2011 9:39:28 PM EDT by Tijeras_Slim
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“Gun laws” is an oxymoron.


8 posted on July 14, 2011 10:33:47 PM EDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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If you look at the timeline of Fast and Furious alone it would be difficult to dismiss it as a rogue operation.
Gun-Running Timeline: How DOJ’s ‘Operation Fast and Furious’ Unfolded
October 2009: The ATF’s Phoenix Field Division establishes a gun trafficking group called Group VII. Group VII initially began using the strategy of “gunwalking,” or allowing suspects to walk away with illegally purchased guns, according to a report by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee and the staff of Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

“The purpose was to wait and watch, in hope that law enforcement could identify other members of a trafficking network and build a large, complex conspiracy case,” the report says. It goes on to say: “Group VII initially began using the new gunwalking tactics in one of its investigations to further the Department’s strategy. The case was soon renamed ‘Operation Fast and Furious.’”

According to the congressional report, the ATF had known that most of the indicted straw purchasers were in fact straw purchasers before Operation Fast and Furious began.


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'Gunwalking' to forcible citizen disarmament tyranny--compelling new evidence
St. Louis Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 14 July, 2011 | Kurt Hofmann
Posted on July 15, 2011 7:18:48 AM EDT by marktwain

Some in the gun rights advocacy community don't buy the official story, that "Project Gunwalker" was intended, through some "underpants gnome"-like magical mechanism, to "bring down a drug cartel." We believe instead that the real motive was to pad statistics which would then be used to bolster the foundering "U.S. commercial gun market is arming Mexican drug cartels" myth. In taking that position, we have opened ourselves up to the ridicule of such journalistic luminaries as Media Matters and Jon Stewart, who apparently really do believe both that senior government officials are stupidly incompetent enough to take such a harebrained approach to combating drug war violence, and that such massive incompetence isn't a pretty dire indictment of the current government.

In light of some new evidence released by Congressman Darrell Issa (R-CA) and Senator Charles Grassley (R-IA), Media Matters and Stewart would seem to have some serious new work to do in patching up the "underpants gnome" defense. That new evidence comes in the form of Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) emails related to Operation Fast and Furious, that Congressmen Issa and Grassley have obtained in their "Gunwalker" investigation, and attached to a letter (thank you, Bob Owens) they sent to Attorney General Holder Tuesday.

We'll look at a couple of those emails, both from BATFE Assistant Director for Field Operations Mark Chait, to William "Gunwalker Bill" Newell (at that time Special Agent in Charge of the Phoenix field division, where Operation Fast and Furious was implemented). First, this one, sent one year ago today:

Bill - can you see if these guns were all purchased from same FfL and at one time. We are looking at anecdotal cases to support a demand letter on long gun multiple sales. Thanks Mark R. Chait Assistant Director Field

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FOX new doesn't mention obama in their article.  Probably cause they're scared it'll collapse the entire govt.

I'm curious to see what the collapes of our entire government would look like.. Hard to believe we may be on the precipice's of that...I'm frankly a little scared right now.