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but...and just playing devils advocate here... could the letters be saying that when giving testimony, avoid giving out information that could put undercover agents at risk? That seems a likely scenario since it is in letter form and unlikely to say "Don't say anything to get us in trouble".  And couldn't the person writing the article who has a hard on for Obama and the ATF write an article implying the letters were evil?

Just sayin...

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Reporting from Washington— The claim by senior ATF officials that none of the weapons lost in the botched Fast and Furious sting operation were used in the shooting of a Border Patrol agent is not supported by FBI ballistics tests, according to a copy of the FBI report on the shooting.

Last week, spokesmen Scot Thomasson and Drew Wade of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives told The Times that the FBI had assured them that neither of the two Fast and Furious weapons found at the scene of Border Patrol Agent Brian A. Terry's death were the ones that killed the agent.

"We're not aware of any forensic evidence that would link these guns to the homicide," they said.

A copy of the FBI report obtained by The Times' Washington bureau shows ballistics tests did not rule out the Fast and Furious guns.

Experts went to work on tests on Dec. 17, three days after Terry was killed, FBI records show. On Dec. 23, the FBI's "Report of Examination" said the fatal bullet came from a semiautomatic rifle, but that "due to a lack of sufficient agreement in the individual microscopic marks of value" on the weapons, "it could not be determined" which gun fired it.

A source briefed on the FBI's findings said the bullet that killed Terry was badly damaged "and that's why the FBI only got a partial match to the weapons. It was just too badly fragmented." The source spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is continuing.

The goal of the Fast and Furious operation, run by the Phoenix office of the ATF, was to allow straw purchasers to illegally buy weapons in the U.S. so agents could learn the traffickers' routes into Mexico. The agents were then supposed to intervene before the guns were sold to drug cartels. But agents lost track of roughly 1,700 weapons, and hundreds soon began showing up at homicide scenes in Mexico.

The statement about the use of the guns found at the scene of Terry's death fits into a pattern in which ATF has offered carefully constructed responses in answer to questions from Congress and reporters about the Fast and Furious case.

Sen. Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, the top Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, wrote to the ATF in January about allegations that Fast and Furious weapons had been "used" to kill Terry. A week later, senior Justice Department and ATF officials told their supervisors that they had "sent a written response to Sen. Grassley, advising him that these allegations are not true."

The response did not acknowledge that two of the lost weapons had been recovered at the scene.

The ATF defended the answer as accurate because officials saw a distinction between guns being found at the scene and "used" in the killing.

Paul Charlton, a former U.S. attorney in Phoenix now representing the Terry family, was outraged that the ATF statement distorted the FBI findings. "For them to say that is a lie," Charlton said in an interview. "It's a gross inaccuracy. It's yet another example of the ATF misleading the nation and the family on what actually happened to Agent Terry."

Thomasson, the top spokesman at ATF headquarters, declined Tuesday to discuss the disparity between the FBI report and what the agency has said. "I cannot comment on any ongoing investigation," he said, "especially one involving the death of a Border Patrol agent."

Terry's death marked a breaking point in the failed Fast and Furious operation, prompting former ATF agents who had previously raised objections internally to quietly tip Grassley's office about what had gone wrong.

When the two guns were found at the scene of Terry's death near Tucson, it sparked anger among rank-and-file agents — who resented orders to let weapons "walk" — and a concerted effort by their superiors to contain the damage.

The ballistics report, along with emails and a separate internal memo in the U.S. attorney's office in Phoenix, all obtained by The Times, provide new details about how the weapons made it out of an Arizona gun shop and into the volatile border region, and how federal law enforcement authorities sought to downplay their mistakes.

The two Fast and Furious guns recovered at the scene of the Terry killing were bought in January 2010 at the Lone Wolf Trading Co. store in Glendale, Ariz. The weapons were among hundreds of firearms from the store that ATF agents hoped to track to Mexico.

The accused straw purchaser was Jaime Avila. According to a memo from Assistant U.S. Atty. Emory Hurley, who oversaw Fast and Furious for the U.S. attorney's office in Phoenix, Avila started purchasing firearms in November 2009, the month the sting operation began.

The shop owner, Andre Howard, was "providing information to ATF on large firearms purchases," Hurley later wrote his boss, U.S. Atty. Dennis K. Burke. Howard also "expressed concerns about the cooperation he was providing and whether he was endangering himself," Hurley wrote.

But the ATF was clear: Permit the purchases and follow the weapons. Then the guns, like most of the 2,000 illegal sales permitted under the program, disappeared.

On Dec. 14, Terry and his intelligence team came upon a group of at least three men near Rio Rico, Ariz. Described as a "rip-off crew," the group allegedly preyed on undocumented workers. A gunfight ensued. Terry was shot once in the lower back, and died.

One of the assailants, Manuel Osorio-Arellanes, was wounded and arrested. He and the two other men, not publicly identified, were later charged in the slaying. Three weapons were recovered.

Within 24 hours, the ATF sensed trouble. Hurley emailed Burke that this was "part of the overall Fast and Furious conspiracy." In Arizona, Avila was quickly arrested on charges of buying the guns. William D. Newell, then the top ATF official in Phoenix, ordered an inventory of how many guns had been traced or recovered.

Then on Dec. 21, Newell emailed his boss and admitted that "guns purchased early on in the case couldn't have [been] stopped mainly because we weren't fully aware of all the players at that time and people buying multiple firearms in Arizona is a very common thing."

But Newell defended the operation. "I don't like the perception that we allowed guns to 'walk,'" he wrote.

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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-fast-furious-fbi-20110727,0,808389.story


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ATF agents denounce rogue guns transfers Not told of ‘insane’ operation of arms allowed
Washington Times ^ | Chuck Neubauer
Posted on July 26, 2011 10:48:12 PM EDT by Nachum

ATF field agents working in Mexico broke ranks with their supervisors Tuesday during a rancorous five-hour House committee hearing, saying they were kept in the dark about a controversial undercover operation in which hundreds of guns ended up in the hands of Mexican drug cartels.

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agent Carlos Canino, the ATF acting attache to Mexico; Darren Gil, former attache; and Jose Wall, senior agent in Tijuana, told the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee they had serious concerns about the alarming rate of guns found in violent crimes in Mexico whose source was “Operation Fast and Furious” in Arizona.

“I would like to apologize to my former Mexican law enforcement counterparts and to the Mexican people for Operation Fast and Furious,” said Mr. Gil. “I hope they understand that this was kept secret from most of ATF, including me and my colleagues in Mexico.”

Mr. Gil said he found it “inconceivable” that any competent ATF agent would allow “firearms to disappear at all,” especially on an international border. As a result, he said, the Mexican people will continue to suffer the consequences of narcotics-related firearms violence.

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Reports of witness intimidation, obstruction and secrecy filled Tuesday’s hearing on what Carlos Canino, acting ATF attache in Mexico, called “the perfect storm of idiocy” — Operation Fast and Furious.

According to an Oversight and Government Reform Committee report, Fast and Furious began in 2009 when the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) began allowing strawpurchasers to buy guns in the U.S. and transfer them across the border. The goal of the project was purportedly to identify members of trafficking networks and trace smuggling routes in and out of Mexico.

However, when the December 2010 death of Brian Terry, a member of a special tactical border squad, was connected with guns traced back to Fast and Furious, whistleblowers began to come forward with details about the nearly 2,000 guns that were allowed to cross into Mexico.

A new joint staff report released prior to Tuesday’s hearing shares findings suggesting that ATF officials in Mexico were kept in the dark about all aspects of Fast and Furious. When these officials raised concerns about the number of U.S. guns being found in Mexico, their protests were brushed aside. The Los Angeles Times reports the information was also kept from the U.S. Embassy in Mexico.

Tuesday’s hearing included scheduled witnesses William McMahon, ATF deputy assistant directory for field operations in Phoenix and Mexico; William Newell, former ATF special agent in charge at the Phoenix field division; Carlos Canino, ATF acting attaché to Mexico; Darren Gil, former ATF attaché to Mexico; Jose Wall, ATF senior agent in Tijuana, Mexico; and Lorren Leadmon, ATF intelligence operations specialist.

The drama began early, with The Washington Times reporting that House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa, R-Calif., who has helped lead the Fast and Furious investigation, said at least two agents scheduled for Tuesday’s hearing received letters telling them to limit their testimony.

ATF, in a statement, said the letters were not a threat, but were “essentially the same as the standard document provided to ATF witnesses subpoenaed to testify in court.”

During the nearly five-hour hearing, CNN reports that while two federal officials said they made “mistakes” in the program, they denied letting guns walk across the border on purpose.

“It was not the purpose of the investigation to permit the transportation of firearms into Mexico," Newell said. “To the best of my knowledge none of the suspects in this case was ever witnessed by our agents crossing the border with firearms.”

McMahon said that with “the advantage of hindsight,” he would have done things differently.

However, other witnesses said guns were being allowed to walk across the border and that it flew in the face of everything they had been trained to do.

“When I first heard this going on in the media about the potential for ATF letting guns walk, it was inconceivable,” Canino said in the committee report. “I didn’t want to believe it. It just — it would never happen. Everybody knows the consequences on the other end of … these guns aren’t going for a positive cause, they’re going for a negative cause. The term ‘guns walking’ didn’t exist in my vocabulary.”

“What these guys did was basically grab the ATF rule book on trafficking and threw it out the window,” Canino said “This is indefensible. It is indefensible. The ATF does not do this.”

Gil, who also is quoted in the committee report, said the “abnormal” number of weapons originating in Phoenix and flowing into Mexico led him to call Phoenix for more information. Gil reports that the response his concerns elicited was simply, “yes, we’re aware of it. We have an ongoing investigation. We have a ton of resources on it. We’re looking at it.”

He said when he and his staff tried to access gun trace data on the E-Trace system, an online internal tracing system, they would receive notices that their trace information was “delayed,” meaning a hold had been placed on it by the tracing center or by a field division. An internal email between two National Tracing Center employees shows that they discussed postponing the completing of several traces for guns recovered in Mexico.

As the investigation continues to reveal more details on Fast and Furious, Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, told Fox News that finding the people responsible for the failed program is his chief concern.

“We don’t know how high up in Justice this goes,” Grassley said. “That’s the whole motive of our investigation, or at least part of the motive in our investigation.”

Both Attorney General Eric Holder and President Barack Obama have denied any knowledge of Fast and Furious. In his May 3 testimony before the House Judiciary Committee, Holder said he had learned about the operation only as details emerged in the media. However, prior to Tuesday’s hearing, Issa discussed the claim, saying it made little sense.

“How it is that No. 2, 3, 4 at Justice all knew about this program, but the No. 1 didn’t?” Issa asked. “Is it because he said ‘don’t tell me’? Is it because they knew what they were doing was wrong and they were protecting their boss? Or is it just that Eric Holder is so disconnected that he makes a speech on April 2, 2009, essentially describing advances in [Project] Gunrunner and additional activities that describe Fast and Furious, but then he never checks again until he reads the newspaper two weeks before he comes before us?”

Issa said he thinks the truth is found in his third guess — that Holder didn’t want to know and wasn’t doing his job.

“Whichever it is — he knew and he’s lied to Congress, or he didn’t know and he’s so detached that he wasn’t doing his job — that really probably is for the administration to make a decision on, sooner, not later,” Issa said.

Issa also released three documents he suggests undermine Holder’s claim, including a memo noting the involvement of the U.S. Attorney for the District of Arizona, who worked as one of Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano’s chiefs of staff when she was the governor of Arizona, expressing support for allowing “the transfer of firearms to continue to take place.”

Another document shows an approved wiretap application with Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer’s name on it. Although Breuer didn’t sign it, The Daily Caller reports, his Deputy Assistant Attorney General Kenneth Blanc did. A March 10 email also clarifies rules from the Deputy Attorney General on guns crossing the border.

In the new committee report, Gil testified that he and his staff had so many concerns about the program from within Mexico that discussions with his boss, ATF’s Chief of International Affairs Daniel Kumor, would often turn into shouting matches. It was during one of these arguments that Gil reports Kumor told him the acting director of the ATF, Kenneth Melson, and the Department of Justice were both aware of Fast and Furious.

“If the acting director is aware, you assume everybody is aware of it,” Gil said. “You got to defer to your executive staff.”

During Tuesday’s hearing, Rep. Pat Meehan, R-Penn., pressed witnesses to identify federal agencies involved in the operation. Newell identified the Drug Enforcement Administration and the Internal Revenue Service — both part of the Department of Justice — as being part of the investigation. Newell said U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, part of the Department of Homeland Security, was involved as well.

A report from Fox News shows that two Fast and Furious straw buyers — Jacob Wayne Chambers, who bought 70 guns for the Sinaloa cartel, and Sean Christopher Stewart, who bought 290 guns — both had felony convictions and criminal backgrounds.

This, Fox’s source suggests, means the FBI, which operates the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, knowingly allowed the pair to buy guns despite such purchases being disallowed under current gun control laws. A CBS News report earlier in July also suggests the FBI was involved.

A CBS News story on Tuesday's hearing also states Newell discussed Fast and Furious with his friend Kevin O’Reilly, a White House National Security Director for North America.

Tuesday’s hearing also included a few calls for tighter gun control laws and for expanded ATF power, with Rep. Gerald Connolly, D-Va., and Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton, D-D.C., voicing their concerns.

“We’ve made sure that the ‘F’ in ATF is non-existent,” Connolly said. We haven’t given them a permanent director. We’ve done everything we can to defang the ATF.”

“I stand by the notion that the ATF agents don’t have the laws they need is because the Republicans over and over again introduced laws that would, in fact, keep them from getting those laws and have stood in the way of their acquiring those laws,” Norton said.

Although the ongoing investigation on Capitol Hill is now focused solely on Fast and Furious, claims are also beginning to emerge that the administration sold weapons to the MS13 gang in Honduras, possibly as part of “Operation Castaway,” and also sold guns to the Zetas cartel through the State Department’s Direct Commercial Sales Program.


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ATF Manager says he shared Fast and Furious Info with White House
CBS News ^ | 7/26/11 | Sharyl Attkisson
Posted on July 27, 2011 1:01:05 AM EDT by Nachum

At a lengthy hearing on ATF's controversial gunwalking operation today, a key ATF manager told Congress he discussed the case with a White House National Security staffer as early as September 2010. The communications were between ATF Special Agent in Charge of the Phoenix office, Bill Newell, and White House National Security Director for North America Kevin O'Reilly. Newell said the two are longtime friends. The content of what Newell shared with O'Reilly is unclear and wasn't fully explored at the hearing.

It's the first time anyone has publicly stated that a White House official had any familiarity with ATF's operation Fast and Furious, which allowed thousands of weapons to fall into the hands of suspected traffickers for Mexican drug cartels in an attempt to gain intelligence. It's unknown as to whether O'Reilly shared information with anybody else at the White House.

Congressional investigators obtained an email from Newell to O'Reilly in September of last year in which Newell began with the words: "you didn't get this from me."

"What does that mean," one member of Congress asked Newell, " 'you didn't get this from me?' "

"Obviously he was a friend of mine," Newell replied, "and I shouldn't have been sending that to him."

Newell told Congress that O'Reilly had asked him for information.

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Transcript of Newell questioning related to NSC's O'Reilly
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July 26, 2011 -
http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/transcript-of-newell-questioning-related-to-nsc-s-o-reilly





A transcript of today's House Oversight Committee on Government Reform hearing has been released that includes all questioning of former Phoenix Field Division Special Agent in Charge William Newell regarding his relationship with and emails to National Security Council Director of North American Affairs Kevin O'Reilly, reported in today's earlier Gun Rights Examiner column.


Related transcript sections are copied and pasted below. Initial questions are by Rep. Raul Labrador and Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa:


LABRADOR: Special Agent Newell, do you know who Kevin O'Reilly is?


NEWELL: Yes, Sir.


LABRADOR: What's the nature of your relationship with him?


NEWELL: I've known Kevin for ‑ I'd say probably 10‑12 years?


LABRADOR: How often do you communicate with him?


NEWELL: Oh, I haven't communicated with him in a while but probably three or four times a year or something like that. Or maybe ‑ maybe more depending on him reaching out to me.


LABRADOR: Isn't it a little bit unusual for a special agent in charge of an ATF field division to have direct email contact with the national security staff at the White House?


NEWELL: He's ‑ he's a friend of mine.


LABRADOR: How many times did you talk to him about this case?


NEWELL: The specifics of this case? I don't think I ‑‑ I mean ‑‑ I don't think I had one specific conversation with him about the specifics of this case.


LABRADOR: OK. Who ...


ISSA (?): Would the gentleman allow me to help him a little? Not that you need it, but could you take the word specific out and ‑ and answer the general ‑‑ did you talk to him about this case?


NEWELL: I might have talked to him about this case. Yes, Sir.


ISSA(?): Do you know when that was?


NEWELL: It was probably ‑‑ I ‑‑ as I recall I think it was during the summer ‑‑ it might have been the summer or early fall of 2010.


Later in the hearing, Rep. Trey Gowdy picked up the O'Reilly connection to press for more information:


GOWDY: Let me ask you this. When you begin a sentence, "You didn't get this from me..." what does that mean to you?


NEWELL: Just means that didn't get it from me.


GOWDY: Well, but that's kind of a pleonasm, isn't it, because you are getting it from them? So it's a ‑‑ what do you mean by that, "You didn't get this from me..."? I'm referring to your e‑mail to Mr. O'Reilly (ph).


NEWELL: Well, obviously Mr. O'Reilly (ph) was a friend of mine and it's ‑‑ it's ‑‑ I shouldn't have been sending him that, obviously, I recognize that, it being a friend.


GOWDY: But what do you mean, "You didn't get this from me..."? Does that mean you should not have been talking to him about it?


NEWELL: Not that I shouldn't have been talking about. He's a friend of mine. He asked for information and I provided it to him.


GOWDY: Well, then, why wasn't it appropriate for you to give it to him? Why would you preface it by saying, "You didn't get this from me..."? Was it an improper communication?


NEWELL: No, it wasn't an improper communication.


GOWDY: Well, then, why would you preface it by that?


NEWELL: It's ‑‑ he's been a friend of mine for a long time and he asked me for information. So I gave him information that ‑‑ it's probably an improper use of the term or phrase.

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FBI complicity in 'Gunwalker' refutes 'rogue operation by leaderless ATF' claim
St. Louis Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 26 July, 2011 | Kurt Hofmann





Fox News reported yesterday that at least two men suspected of being allowed by the Department of "Justice" to engage in gun trafficking to Mexico should never have been able to buy any guns in the first place:

In the latest chapter of the gunrunning scandal known as Operation Fast and Furious, federal officials won't say how two suspects obtained more than 360 weapons despite criminal records that should have prevented them from buying even one gun.

Under current federal law, people with felony convictions are not permitted to buy weapons, and those with felony arrests are typically flagged while the FBI conducts a thorough background check.

The gun dealers would have to have submitted the prospective buyers' identifying information to the FBI-administered NICS (National Instant Criminal Background Check System--often called the "Brady background check"). The felony convictions in the histories of these men would have stopped the sales cold--unless the FBI was playing along.

According to Fox, the FBI refused to comment on this latest revelation, but one of Fox's sources within the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) did have some information for them:

However, an ATF agent who worked on the Fast and Furious investigation, told Fox News that NICS officials called the ATF in Phoenix whenever their suspects tried to buy a gun. That conversation typically led to a green light for the buyers, when it should have stopped them.
 
The FBI, in other words, was fully aware of what was going on, and made no move to stop it. This flies in the face of claims by administration apologists that this was no more than a "rogue operation" within the BATFE, and was only allowed to happen because the BATFE has been "leaderless," without a permanent director since 2006.


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Obama DOJ Gave Cartel Enough Guns to Arm a Marine Regiment
www.Townhall.com ^ | July 26, 2011 | Katie Pavlich

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“These guns went to ruthless criminals,” Carlos Canino, ATF Acting Attaché to Mexico said in testimony on Capitol Hill Tuesday regarding the scandal-plagued Operation Fast and Furious. “It’s alleged that over 2,000 guns were trafficked in this investigation. To put that in context, upon information and belief, the U.S. Army’s 75th Ranger Regiment has approximately 2,500 rangers. That means that as a result of this investigation, the Sinaloa cartel may have received almost as many guns that are needed to arm the entire regiment. Out of these 2,000 weapons, 34 were .50-caliber sniper rifles. That is approximately the number of sniper riles a Marine infantry regiment takes into battle.”


The Department of Justice proposed a southwest border strategy in October 2009 to combat Mexican cartels, with final plans for the operation now known as Operation Fast and Furious coming in January 2010. The new “strategy” included multiple law enforcement agencies, including the Drug Enforcement Agency, ICE, the IRS and the FBI. This operation entailed ATF agents watching straw purchasers buy hundreds of high-powered weapons and allowed them to go back or “walk” into Mexico, with a goal of “tracing” them back to cartel leaders. As Americans learned in the second hearing about this operation on June 15, guns were lost, not traced, and now a cover-up has begun.


“The Acting Director of the ATF, in a transcribed interview with investigators, has said that the Justice Department is trying to push all of this away from its political appointees. That is not the response this committee, Congress and the public, should expect from the ‘most transparent administration in history,’” Rep. Darrell Issa, Chairman of the House Oversight Committee, said during opening statements. “To date, President Obama has been keen to talk about who didn’t know about the program and who didn’t authorize it. These answers will not suffice. The American people have a right to know, once and for all, who did authorize it and who knew about it.”



A new report released by Issa’s office shows ATF agents working in Mexico were left in the dark about the details of Operation Fast and Furious. The report shows that in late 2009, ATF officials in Mexico began to see increasing amounts of guns traced to the Phoenix ATF Field Division office showing up at violent crime scenes. Former ATF Attaché to Mexico Darren Gil and ATF Acting Attaché to Mexico Carlos Canino expressed their concerns to officials in the Phoenix Field Office and in Washington D.C. but were ignored. The report shows ATF and DOJ “failed to share crucial details of the of Operation Fast and Furious with either their own employees stationed in Mexico or representatives of the Government of Mexico.” Specifically, personnel in Arizona denied ATF agents working in Mexico information directly related to their jobs and everyday operations.

“I would like to inform this committee and the American public that I believe what happened here was inexcusable – and we in Mexico had no part of it,” Carino said in testimony Tuesday. “We were aware of this investigation but were never aware of the policy to walk guns in this investigation.”



To make things worse, ATF leadership deliberately lied to agents working in Mexico, telling them Operation Fast and Furious would end in July 2010, but the program didn’t end until December 2010, only after Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was killed by a cartel member in the Arizona desert using a gun issued through Operation Fast and Furious.


“This was not even knowing of the potential for gun walking. This was just . . . not shutting this investigation down and letting another 300 weapons come into the country after the first 300 weapons,” Carino said in an interview issued in the Oversight Committee report. “What these guys did was basically grab the ATF rule book on trafficking and threw it out the window. This is indefensible. It is indefensible.”


Every time agents working in Mexico asked about the investigation, their “U.S. based ATF counterparts in Phoenix and Washington, D.C. continued to say they were ‘working on it’ and ‘everything was under control,’” according to the report.


At this point, 48 different recoveries of weapons have occurred in Mexico, and the public has only seen the beginning of the violence as a result of Operation Fast and Furious.


One suspect was able to purchase and transfer over 600 weapons to cartel members before he was arrested.


“I recall my first days at the ATF academy, where it was drilled into us as new agents that under no circumstances would any firearms, in any investigation, leave the control of ATF. Instructors stressed that even if a weapon was lost “by accident,” the agent was still subject to termination,” former ATF Attaché to Mexico Darren D. Gil said in testimony.



“Unfortunately, as a result of this operation, it is the Mexican people who will continue to suffer the consequences of narco-related firearms violence. I have no doubt, as recent media reports have indicated, that American citizens will also be exposed to more firearms-related violence as a result of this operation,” Gil said.


The media report Gil is referring to comes from internal emails that show weapons issued by ATF were being used to commit crimes in the Phoenix area.


Up until now, nobody within ATF or DOJ has been terminated as a result of purposely losing 2,000 high powered weapons in Mexico; however, one ATF agent has alleged he was fired for coming forward and acting as a whistleblower on the deadly program, and Issa has said the Obama administration is intimidating agents in an effort to prevent their testimony before Congress. ATF Associate Chief Counsel Barry Orlow has sent letters to ATF agents called to testify to the Oversight Committee under subpoena, warning them to watch what they say. Senior Justice Department officials, including Attorney General Eric Holder and Assistant Attorney General Ron Weich, both nominated by President Obama, have repeatedly stonewalled the oversight committee investigation and have not complied with multiple congressional subpoenas to submit Operation Fast and Furious documents.


“I was skeptical when the first whistle-blower came to this committee with allegations of hundreds, maybe thousands of guns being allowed to “walk” into the country of Mexico. I could not believe that someone in ATF would so callously let firearms wind up in the hands of criminals. And that this activity has seemingly been approved by our own Justice Department and ATF management in the misguided hope of catching the “big fish,” Jose Wall, ATF Senior Special Agents based in Tijuana, Mexico said. “These firearms that are now in the hands of people who have no regard for human life pose a threat to all of us, a threat to which none of us is immune.”



Former ATF Special Agent in Charge William Newell would not condemn Operation Fast and Furious and allowing guns to walk into Mexico during testimony and questioning. In fact, Newell went so far as to say he was unaware of guns walking into Mexico, despite internal emails showing he did know. Newell admitted the agency made mistakes but would not admit the program was a bad idea and exposed that he was in communication with a member of the White House national security team. His testimony also conflicted with previous testimony given by Special Agent John Dodson of the Phoenix Field Division who said on June 15, “Allowing loads of weapons that we knew to be destined for criminals, this was the plan. It was so mandated.”

“At no time in our strategy was it to allow guns to be taken to Mexico,” Newell said, adding that at no time did his agency allow guns to walk.

“You’re entitled to your opinion, not your own facts,” Issa responded.


ATF Team Leader Lorren Leadmon disagreed and directly countered Newell’s testimony that is was not the plan of ATF to give dangerous cartels weapons, that there was no doubt weapons were going to criminal organizations as early as 2009.

This, is the perfect storm of idiocy,” Canino said in an interview issued in the Oversight Committee report. “You don't lose guns. You don't walk guns. You don't let guns get out of your sight.”



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Obama / Holder deserve life sentences for this. 

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BREAKING NEWS: ATF attaché calls Gunwalker 'perfect storm of idiocy'
By David Codrea, Gun Rights Examiner





..A Joint Staff Report prepared for Rep. Darrell Issa of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform and Sen. Chuck Grassley of the Senate Judiciary Committee has just been released today.  Titled “The Department of Justice’s Operation Fast and Furious Fueling Cartel Violence,” the report asserts:


Operation Fast and Furious made unprecedented use of a dangerous investigative technique known as “gunwalking.” Rather than intervene and seize illegally purchase firearms, ATF’s Phoenix Field Division allowed known straw purchasers to walk away with guns, over and over again. As a result, the weapons were transferred to criminals and Mexican Drug Cartels.

Of significance, former ATF attaché to Mexico, Darren Gil and his deputy, Carlos Canino confirm reports made early on by Gun Rights Examiner and Sipsey Street Irregulars that not only was this information withheld from them, but also from the Mexican government—despite repeated questioning and objections leading to “screaming matches” registered with management.  ATF’s  office in Mexico being denied permission to share information with Mexican authorities was first reported in this column on Jan. 6.


Also reported is the involvement of Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer, again a subject of a report filed in this column on Feb. 5, as well as other managers at ATF and within the Justice Department. It is clear officials knew walked guns were being used to commit acts of violence—and continued to allow it rather than shut the operation down—something they did not do until the murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry made it dangerous for them to allow the operation to continue.


There is much to glean from this report, particularly interesting since so many of the principals will also be witnesses in this morning’s scheduledhearings at 10:00 AM in the Rayburn House Office Building. Much of the report reads almost like an intrigue novel, with the kidnapping/murder of Mario Gonzales Rodriguez and the attack by cartels on a Mexican federal police helicopter, both of which involved Fast and Furious weapons, but hard numbers on the weapons are also presented by date, and by number and types of weapons recovered.

Telling is the assessment of Canino, who characterized the gunwalking as “the perfect storm of idiocy” and went on to say:


Just—you don’t do it. You don’t walk guns. You don’t walk guns…You don’t lose guns. You don’t walk guns. You don’t let guns out of your sight.

That some did, with terrible results, is certain.

Read the complete report by clicking here.

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WTF? 


Any of you dirtbags still supporting obama admn need to be beaten sensless. 

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http://www.scribd.com/doc/60923532/ATF-Mexico-Report


Wow.  This is your disgusting govt at work.  Yeah, lets send them more $$$$! 

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"How is it that the No. 2, 3, 4 at Justice all knew about this program, but the No. 1 didn't?," Mr. Issa said. "Is it because he said 'don't tell me'? Is it because they knew what they were doing is wrong, and they were protecting their boss? Or is it that Eric Holder is just so disconnected ... ?

"Whichever it is — he knew and he's lied to Congress, or he didn't know, and he's so detached that he wasn't doing his job — that really probably is for the administration to make a decision on, sooner not later," Mr. Issa said.


Exactly. Holder should resign or be fired for being a liar or for being incompetent.

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Many weapons seized in Sonora traced to ATF's 'Fast and Furious'
Story(35) CommentsMany weapons seized in Sonora traced to ATF's 'Fast and Furious'
Brady McCombs Arizona Daily Star Arizona Daily Star | Posted: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 12:00 am | (0)

Related: PDF: Operation Fast and Furious committee report




Many of the weapons seizures in Mexico that alerted authorities to problems with the ATF's "Fast and Furious" operation occurred south of Arizona in Sonora, a report by congressional Republicans shows.


So far, officials are aware of 48 weapons recoveries in Mexico involving 122 weapons connected to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives' Mexican gun-smuggling investigation called "Operation Fast and Furious," according to a report prepared for Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, and Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif.


The list of the 48 weapons recoveries shows 15 seizures in Sonora totaling 60 weapons, including the biggest recovery of them all - 42 weapons on Nov. 20, 2009, in Naco, Sonora, south of Bisbee, about 80 miles southeast of Tucson.


On that day, Mexican authorities discovered 41 AK-47s and one Beowulf .50-caliber rifle in a vehicle driven by a 21-year old woman, the report says. The woman told police she planned to transport the weapons "straight to the Sinaloa cartel," the report said.


All 42 weapons traced back to Fast and Furious straw purchases, the report says. Straw purchases are when gun smugglers pay somebody with no criminal record to buy a gun from a licensed dealer.


In the operation, the ATF allowed guns to be bought by known straw purchasers. The goal was to investigate how the drug smuggling operation worked in order to arrest and prosecute high-level operatives.


Twenty of the 42 weapons recovered in Naco that day had been purchased less than 24 hours earlier from gun stores in Arizona, the report said.


The report was released the same day as the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee held a hearing on the operation. There, William McMahon, the head of ATF's Western region, apologized for mistakes made during the operation but said they were only made out of zeal to track down weapons smugglers.


The report is based mainly on internal emails and interviews with two ATF officials who were working in Mexico during the operation: Darren Gil, attaché to Mexico, and Carlos Canino, then deputy attaché to Mexico.


"This is the perfect storm of idiocy," Canino says in the report. "You know what Gen. George Patton says, 'If we are all thinking alike, then nobody is thinking.' Right? Nobody was thinking here."



The other Sonoran weapons recoveries in the report occurred in Nogales, Agua Prieta, San Luis Río Colorado, Navojoa, Saric, Ciudad Obregon and Puerto Peñasco.


The congressional inquiries into the ATF operation began early this year after Border Patrol agent Brian Terry was killed during a shootout with suspected border bandits on Dec. 14 near Rio Rico. Two Romanian-made assault rifles were recovered at the scene that are believed to have been sold to straw buyers in Phoenix and tracked into Mexico under the operation.


"You know what Gen. George Patton says, 'If we are all thinking alike, then nobody is thinking.' Right? Nobody was thinking here."

Carlos Canino, ATF official, on Operation Fast and Furious

The Associated Press contributed to this report. Contact reporter Brady McCombs at 573-4213 or bmccombs@azstarnet.com



Read more: http://azstarnet.com/article_ab5f24d6-1cd0-5a5d-809c-4378748ce984.html#ixzz1TJbVyDNa

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"This is the perfect storm of idiocy," Canino says in the report.


Sounds like an apt description for Obama Admn. 

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Fast and Furious: Enter the IRS and White HouseThe scandal grows wider, and deeper.
by  John Hayward

07/27/2011 



Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) and his House Oversight committee did not waste any time getting down to business when their “Gun Walker” hearings resumed yesterday.  Within a matter of hours, they had Special Agent in Charge William Newell, of the Phoenix ATF office, sizzling nicely on the Oversight hibachi, and this astonishing exchange occurred:



So now we’ve got the Internal Revenue Service, the Drug Enforcement Agency, and ICE connected with Operation Fast and Furious.  We already know the FBI was involved, because some of their paid confidential informants starred in ATF’s favorite closed-circuit TV shows.  Who’s left to implicate?

Ah, yes: the White House.  Newell also testified that he discussed Operation Fast & Furious with his old friend, White House National Security Director for North America Kevin O’Reilly.  According to CBS News, Issa’s committee got its hands on an email that began with the ominous words, “you didn’t get this from me.” 

Newell says O’Reilly was “asking about the impact of Project Gunrunner to brief people in preparation for a trip to Mexico… what we were doing to combat firearms trafficking and other issues.”  A White House spokesman denied this exchange had anything to do with Operation Fast and Furious.

Here’s a little testimony from ATF Special Agent Carlos Canino, who figured prominently in yesterday’s staff report on the Gun Walker investigation.  This is what happens when you force a good man to sail through the “perfect storm of idiocy” for years, and then give him a microphone.

 




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John Hayward is a staff writer for HUMAN EVENTS, and author of the recently published  Doctor Zero: Year One. Follow him on Twitter:  Doc_0. Contact him by email at jhayward@eaglepub.com.

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Boom - time to get jump suits for obama and holder. 






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WWWWOOOWWWW


IRS & ICE also in on Fast & Furious! 

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the only one following the story is you and the other far right nuts this is going nowhere  :D :D

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the only one following the story is you and the other far right nuts this is going nowhere  :D :D

Really?   Go to the guns forum and DU and take a peek.  Theyt are on this as well you piece of commie trash.   

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Agent Newell committed perjury.  What a lying sack of shit.   

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Got to love Cummings, Norton, and the other 95er congress people trying to cover for obama in this clip.  Disgusting. 

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Really?   Go to the guns forum and DU and take a peek.  Theyt are on this as well you piece of commie trash.   

hahaha more lawyer talk you must impress your clients with your language

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hahaha more lawyer talk you must impress your clients with your language

Only a homeless drug addicted commie traitor like yourself could support this.