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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #50 on: February 26, 2011, 10:31:56 AM »
1.  His father was a marxist and a communist who went to Harvard.  His father was a womanizing drunk piece of shit who tried and failed to impose communism in in Kenya.   Obama Senior blamed the Brits for his failures as well as a variety of other CT's.   Obama's grandfather was also a communistwho introduced him to a mentor named Frank Marshall Davis, another rabid communist.  From early on Obama was taught about the evils of america, evils of capiatalism, colonialism, etc.   Obama bought into all that crap from early on and ran with it.  He has blamed the UK and the USA's economic system of fundamental unfairness and has said so many times.  He viewed the father as a victim of colonialism at the hand of the evil whites, etc.   That is my take.  


2.  He ants to collapse te system because he is a revolutionary marxist like Dr. Dre says Obama told him.  Its only if wehave a complete collapse that communism can be implmented.

3.  Obama gets satisfaction, not monetarily, but historically, that he can tak credit for it.


BTW - listen to the Drew interview.   this is not a bomb hrower, but a college professor who knows obama personally.                

was that so hard?

why didn't you just give your own answers to begin with

I guess from the answers above you believe Obama intent is collapse America but how does that lead to Communism?

Do you think Obama intends to impose himself as a communist dictator?  If so, how?

Can you flesh out the collapse and then the transfer of our government over to Communism (again - no videos or articles - I just want your opinions)

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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #51 on: February 26, 2011, 10:34:52 AM »
was that so hard?

why didn't you just give your own answers to begin with

I guess from the answers above you believe Obama intent is collapse America but how does that lead to Communism?

Do you think Obama intends to impose himself as a communist dictator?  If so, how?

Can you flesh out the collapse and then the transfer of our government over to Communism (again - no videos or articles - I just want your opinions)


Its a gamble Straw.   He knows they can't get communism if the economy is roaring and everyone is fat and happy and working. 

and I also don't think bama views this as an event so much as a process.     

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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #52 on: February 26, 2011, 10:39:33 AM »

Its a gamble Straw.   He knows they can't get communism if the economy is roaring and everyone is fat and happy and working. 

and I also don't think bama views this as an event so much as a process.     

wouldn't the collapse have happened faster if we didn't bail out the banks, auto companies, do stimulus, extend unemployment benefits, give people healthcare etc..

let's be realistic (and I'm sure Obama knows this, it's his plan afterall) he may only have one term to collapse the country so why do all these things that appear to have actually helped the country.   Isn't that counter productive to his plan

I still don't understand how we move from our current form of democracy to communism or what role or benefit (other than the claim of revenge) that Obama get's out of destroying the country he's been elected to run.

Can you expand on that a bit

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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #53 on: February 26, 2011, 10:42:52 AM »
He didnt give health care to anyone.   

He is forcing millions on welfare andcalling that healthcare.   

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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #54 on: February 26, 2011, 10:44:03 AM »
He didnt give health care to anyone.   

He is forcing millions on welfare andcalling that healthcare.   

he forcing millions onto welfare?

ok - well if you say so

now how about the questions I asked


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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #55 on: February 26, 2011, 10:45:13 AM »

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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #56 on: February 26, 2011, 10:48:22 AM »

I told you I want your opinion

I don't care about videos or other third party sources

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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #57 on: February 26, 2011, 11:00:57 AM »
I told you I want your opinion

I don't care about videos or other third party sources

Watch the Drew interview.   He puts it much mre eloquently than i can and knows obama personally.  Nothing he says, BASED ON HIS DISCUSSIONS WITH OBAMA HIMSELF, is nothing that far from anything else I have said.     

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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #58 on: February 26, 2011, 11:07:06 AM »
Watch the Drew interview.   He puts it much mre eloquently than i can and knows obama personally.  Nothing he says, BASED ON HIS DISCUSSIONS WITH OBAMA HIMSELF, is nothing that far from anything else I have said.     

no thanks

I'm not interested his opinion

hopefully you can muster up the eloquence that you think you need to to answer the questions

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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #59 on: February 26, 2011, 11:08:53 AM »
no thanks

I'm not interested his opinion

hopefully you can muster up the eloquence that you think you need to to answer the questions

You know my opinion.   

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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #60 on: February 26, 2011, 11:09:50 AM »
You know my opinion.   

I know some of it but not all of it

if you don't want to answer or don't have an opinion that's ok too

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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #61 on: February 26, 2011, 11:11:47 AM »
I know some of it but not all of it

if you don't want to answer or don't have an opinion that's ok too

I do, but am not in the mood to type it all out.  By the way - have you ever seen this?

     

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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #62 on: February 26, 2011, 11:15:37 AM »
I do, but am not in the mood to type it all out.  By the way - have you ever seen this?

I rarely watch any of your videos

You've got almost 50,000 posts so I'm not buying it that you can't be bothered to type a few sentences

why don't you just take a few seconds to flesh out this collapse and subsequent transfer from democracy to communism and whether you think Obama intends to install himself a communist dictator

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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #63 on: February 26, 2011, 11:19:35 AM »
I almost never watch any of your videos

You've got almost 50,000 posts so I'm not buying it that you can't be bothered to type a few sentences

why don't you just take a few seconds to flesh out this collapse and subsequent transfer from democracy to communism and whether you think Obama intends to install himself a communist dictator

I think Obama plans on going global after he is out office to make $ $ $ by giving speeches.   However, he is doing what he has to now to set the wheels in motion for collapse and has been doing so from Day 1.   

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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #64 on: February 26, 2011, 11:23:08 AM »
I think Obama plans on going global after he is out office to make $ $ $ by giving speeches.   However, he is doing what he has to now to set the wheels in motion for collapse and has been doing so from Day 1.  

sounds like what every other POTUS does (and half term governors too)

what kind of communist does that and why would a communist country (you know - post collapsed America) allow him to do that?

how about the collapse and transfer to communism

how do you see that happening again?




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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #65 on: February 26, 2011, 11:32:53 AM »
sounds like what every other POTUS does (and half term governors too)

what kind of communist does that and why would a communist country (you know - post collapsed America) allow him to do that?

how about the collapse and transfer to communism

how do you see that happening again?






I don't think its set in stone and truly believe the Mid Term elections helped out as well as the fact that theTea Partie arose and stopped Cap & Trade, Card Check, and shed a lot of light on all his crazy schemes.

I remember like it was yesterday me down in Foley Square Dec. 2009 protesting Obama's decision to try KSM in NYC.  Things like this have shed a lot of light on the horrific nature of this beast you shill for.  I thnk thathe was expecting to get everything he wanted which would have sped up the collapse and transition.

I think that he never imagned the counter revolution of the middle class in this nation rebeling against his suicidal agenda.  Of course there are people like yourself who will applaude anything and everything he does, but overall, the gun owning, tax paying, hard working people of this country who pay the bills have woken up and are on to his false promises and lies. 

As for being a dictator - I believe eventually, and you can hold me to this, he, or others, will try to install him as head of the UN or some other global anti-american org, and he will gladly accept.                 

   

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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #66 on: February 26, 2011, 11:49:59 AM »

I don't think its set in stone and truly believe the Mid Term elections helped out as well as the fact that theTea Partie arose and stopped Cap & Trade, Card Check, and shed a lot of light on all his crazy schemes.

I remember like it was yesterday me down in Foley Square Dec. 2009 protesting Obama's decision to try KSM in NYC.  Things like this have shed a lot of light on the horrific nature of this beast you shill for.  I thnk thathe was expecting to get everything he wanted which would have sped up the collapse and transition.

I think that he never imagned the counter revolution of the middle class in this nation rebeling against his suicidal agenda.  Of course there are people like yourself who will applaude anything and everything he does, but overall, the gun owning, tax paying, hard working people of this country who pay the bills have woken up and are on to his false promises and lies. 

As for being a dictator - I believe eventually, and you can hold me to this, he, or others, will try to install him as head of the UN or some other global anti-american org, and he will gladly accept.                 

   
the Secretary-General of the UN is not a dictator nor a communist so why would Obama want to do that?

how about the transfer from democracy to communism.   isn't that Obama's main goal.

You still haven't explained how we go from democracy to communism or even how the "collapse" happens or what it looks like

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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #67 on: February 26, 2011, 12:01:19 PM »
the Secretary-General of the UN is not a dictator nor a communist so why would Obama want to do that?

how about the transfer from democracy to communism.   isn't that Obama's main goal.

You still haven't explained how we go from democracy to communism or even how the "collapse" happens or what it looks like


I don't think they know what it looks like either.   However, Obama is a fan of Cloward and Piven, so that gives a good idea of what is envisioned. 

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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #68 on: February 26, 2011, 12:03:50 PM »

I don't think they know what it looks like either.   However, Obama is a fan of Cloward and Piven, so that gives a good idea of what is envisioned

and what is that?

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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #69 on: February 26, 2011, 12:15:59 PM »
and what is that?

Are you serious?   After all this time you dont know who Cloward & Piven are? 

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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #70 on: February 26, 2011, 12:21:53 PM »
Are you serious?   After all this time you dont know who Cloward & Piven are? 

I don't know what you're referring to when you wrote

so that gives a good idea of what is envisioned. 

what is "envisioned"?

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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #71 on: February 26, 2011, 12:26:28 PM »
Straws attempts to be condescending have blown up in his face because 333 can actually back up his opinion with factual data and information from credible sources. Another FAIL thread for Straw-- one in a long line of many.

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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #72 on: February 26, 2011, 12:29:12 PM »
Straws attempts to be condescending have blown up in his face because 333 can actually back up his opinion with factual data and information from credible sources. Another FAIL thread for Straw-- one in a long line of many.

how am I being condescending?

333 and I are having a totally polite conversation so why do you stay out unless you have something relevent to offer

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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #73 on: February 26, 2011, 12:30:03 PM »
I do, but am not in the mood to type it all out.  By the way - have you ever seen this?

     


Guys go directly to 1:17:00 in this video.  


Case closed.  

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Re: 333 - You've got to give Obama some credit
« Reply #74 on: February 26, 2011, 12:36:07 PM »
I don't know what you're referring to when you wrote

what is "envisioned"?

Its a strategy of overwhelming the system by creating impossible demands and promises that eventually lead to collapse so that you can achieve your true intent that you could not get unless the collapse in fact took place.   

I believe this is what is going on with ObamaCare and the out of control spending.