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Re: Last time I'll post this: 5HTP+ECA
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2011, 05:18:15 PM »
I like ECA alone.... stacked with another burner?  Whew!  i could see it being VERy effective!

WIKI is hating, though:



Administered serotonin has been shown to increase the risk of heart valve disease in animals.[19][20] 5-HTP has not been subjected to this test. Oral 5-HTP results in an increase in urinary 5-HIAA, a serotonin metabolite, indicating that 5-HTP is peripherally metabolized to serotonin, which is then metabolized. This might cause a false positive test in tests looking for carcinoid syndrome.[21]

5-HTP can cause hypertension by increasing plasma renin activity, when not co-administered with a peripheral aromatic L-amino acid decarboxylase inhibitor, such as carbidopa or benserazide.[22]

Direct and indirect evidence for possible yet unproven risks and side effects associated with 5-HTP when overdosed:

Heart valve damage or disease (cardiac fibrosis).[19][20]
When combined with MAOIs or SSRIs, 5-HTP can cause acute serotonin syndrome.[23][24]
When combined with carbidopa (as a treatment for symptoms of Parkinson's disease), 5-HTP causes nausea and vomiting; however this can be alleviated via administration of granisetron.[25] As mentioned above under pharmacology, cases of scleroderma-like illness have been reported in patients using carbidopa and 5-HTP. [26]

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Re: Last time I'll post this: 5HTP+ECA
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2011, 05:55:32 PM »
My current stack...  allows me to memorize 20-25 powerpoint slides and present for 2hrs straight with no signs of mental fatigue....

DMAE is also added EOD.

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Re: Last time I'll post this: 5HTP+ECA
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2011, 09:59:49 PM »
I like ECA alone.... stacked with another burner?  Whew!  i could see it being VERy effective!

WIKI is hating, though:



Administered serotonin has been shown to increase the risk of heart valve disease in animals.[19][20] 5-HTP has not been subjected to this test. Oral 5-HTP results in an increase in urinary 5-HIAA, a serotonin metabolite, indicating that 5-HTP is peripherally metabolized to serotonin, which is then metabolized. This might cause a false positive test in tests looking for carcinoid syndrome.[21]

5-HTP can cause hypertension by increasing plasma renin activity, when not co-administered with a peripheral aromatic L-amino acid decarboxylase inhibitor, such as carbidopa or benserazide.[22]

Direct and indirect evidence for possible yet unproven risks and side effects associated with 5-HTP when overdosed:

Heart valve damage or disease (cardiac fibrosis).[19][20]
When combined with MAOIs or SSRIs, 5-HTP can cause acute serotonin syndrome.[23][24]
When combined with carbidopa (as a treatment for symptoms of Parkinson's disease), 5-HTP causes nausea and vomiting; however this can be alleviated via administration of granisetron.[25] As mentioned above under pharmacology, cases of scleroderma-like illness have been reported in patients using carbidopa and 5-HTP. [26]


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Re: Last time I'll post this: 5HTP+ECA
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2011, 11:31:24 PM »
5 HTP does not damage or stress your heart. Humans and animals are very different. In humans all it does is replete serotonin levels..