Shawn Ray talking smack about Dorian Yates on BFTO

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Che doing a great job if filling in for Hulkster with the fantasy shots , Heath would be left for dead on stage compared to Yates

He would look as narrow as Shawn and would look 6 weeks out compared to Yates 

[Mayor Of Bodybuilding]

Shawn was Right And look how the size game has ruined bodybuilding!

[bodyofsteel]

Dorians virtual penis puffer here to defend the honor of the thong.

[arce1988]

  Shawn SHOULD have at least ONE MR. O

[Parker]

Fantasy vs REALITY  

two diff poses. Shawn is in the midst of doing a pose, which brings the shoulders in---scrunched.
Dorian is Doing a pose which puts emphasis on width.

Shawn is not that narrow for someone who is 5'6, and 205.

[wild willie]

Shawn Ray was a bitter whiny bitch at this point.
He admitted later in an interview that he shouldnt have been talking shit about Doz,, and that wasnt Dorians fault, and that he was just upset because he thought he "had Dorian on the ropes" (somebody needs to tell Shawn that when youre outmassed by 40+ lbs, you dont have to just be good, you have to be fucking flawless, which Shawn wasnt ((Narrow, extremely Narrow, some imbalances).

 He basically said he was bitter and he should have been questioning the judging and not Dorian.

shawn ray was as close to flawless as you can get......he was 210 pounds of near perfection!!

dorian was great.....no doubt.....but the torn bicep, the bloated stomach.......and the lack of aesthetics!!!! come on!! yates was a beast.....but he had a few flaws that were very obvious to see. imho

[bodyofsteel]

You guys realize you're arguing with a guy who spent 20,000+ posts arguing about Dorian vs Ronnie?

[arce1988]

  I would be happy if they were each a mr. o


  shawn r
  lee l
  flex w
  kev l
  bob paris
  chris c

[wild willie]

two diff poses. Shawn is in the midst of doing a pose, which brings the shoulders in---scrunched.
Dorian is Dorian a pose which emphasis is put on width.

Shawn is not that narrow for someone who is 5'6, and 205.

spot on!

[Donny]

  Shawn SHOULD have at least ONE MR. O

i agree

[Marine]

Shawn Ray looked far better than Yates could ever hope to.

Shawn was the consumate bodybuilder and the judging sucked as Yates ruined the sport.

this 100000000000000000000000 00X


DORIAN YATES FINISHED BODYBUILDING


THE BRITISH FAGGOTSSS SUCKING HIS DICK

CAN FUCK OFFFF

[Donny]

this 100000000000000000000000 00X


DORIAN YATES FINISHED BODYBUILDING


THE BRITISH FAGGOTSSS SUCKING HIS DICK

CAN FUCK OFFFF

  what a dick

[NarcissisticDeity]

two diff poses. Shawn is in the midst of doing a pose, which brings the shoulders in---scrunched.
Dorian is Doing a pose which puts emphasis on width.

Shawn is not that narrow for someone who is 5'6, and 205.

Shawn was narrow , Lee wasn't and he's even shorter

[arce1988]

 Shawn R. and Lee L. should each have the Mr. O.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Shawn R. and Lee L. should each have the Mr. O.

Not according to how contests are judged.

[Parker]

Shawn was narrow , Lee wasn't and he's even shorter

camera angle...it even makes Levrone look a tad wider than Labrada, of should I say, it makes Labrada almost as wide as Levrone...
Apparently, the camera is angled down to get a wide screen shot, distorting the physiques.

[che]

Not according to how contests are judged.

STFU , there are no set criteria for the judging of bodybuilding .

[arce1988]

  can some one just shop dorian out of this pic? what looks wrong with shawn? zero.

[NarcissisticDeity]

camera angle...it even makes Levrone look a tad wider than Labrada, of should I say, it makes Labrada almost as wide as Levrone...
Apparently, the camera is angled down to get a wide screen shot, distorting the physiques.

The angle would effect all of them not just making Lee look wider , and if anything the effect would favor Lee even more if he was straight on just like Shawn & Kev

[NarcissisticDeity]

STFU , there are no set criteria for the judging of bodybuilding .

Stop crying  because the look you prefer didn't win , yes there is a criteria and Shawn failed to meet it better than Dorian and was lucky to beat Kevin never mind Dorian

[NarcissisticDeity]

  can some one just shop dorian out of this pic? what looks wrong with shawn? zero.

So we're judging contests based on one pose now? not how it works. Shawn looks great there and admittedly this wasn't Dorian's strongest shot but he destroyed in all the others.

[che]

there is a criteria

What is it ?

[NarcissisticDeity]

What is it ?

Shawn doesn't beat Dorian according to this

When assessing a competitor’s physique, a judge should follow a
routine procedure which will allow a comprehensive assessment of
the physique as a whole. During the comparisons of the
compulsory poses, the judge should first look at the primary
muscle group being displayed. The judge should then survey the
whole physique, starting from the head, and looking at every part
of the physique in a downward sequence, beginning with general
impressions, and looking for muscular bulk, balanced
development, muscular density and definition. The downward
survey should take in the head, neck, shoulders, chest, all of the
arm muscles, front of the trunk for pectorals, pec-delt tie-in,
abdominals, waist, thighs, legs, calves and feet. The same
procedure for back poses will also take in the upper and lower
trapezius, teres and infraspinatus, erector spinae, the gluteus
group, the leg biceps group at the back of the thighs, calves, and
feet. A detailed assessment of the various muscle groups should
be made during the comparisons, at which time it helps the judge
to compare muscle shape, density, and definition while still
bearing in mind the competitor’s overall balanced development.
The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.

Front Double Biceps (see Figure 1)
Standing face front to the judges, with the legs and feet
in-line and a short distance apart, the competitor will raise
both arms to shoulder level and bend them at the elbows.
The hands should be clenched and turned down so as to
cause a contraction of the biceps and forearm muscles,
which are the main muscle groups that are to be assessed
in this pose. In addition, the competitor should attempt
to contract as many other muscles as possible as the
judges will be surveying the whole physique, from head to
toe.

The judge will first survey the biceps muscles looking for a
full, peaked development of the muscle, noting whether
or not there is a defined split between the anterior and
posterior sections of the biceps, and will continue the
head-to-toe survey by observing the development of the
forearms, deltoids, pectorals, pec-delt tie-ins, abdominals,
thighs, and calves. The judge will also look for muscle
density, definition, and overall balance.

Front Lat Spread (see Figure 2)
Standing face front to the judges, with the legs and feet a
short distance apart, the competitor will place the open
hands, or clenched fists, against, or gripping, the lower
waist or obliques and will expand the latissimus muscles.
At the same time, the competitor should attempt to
contract as many other frontal muscles as possible. It
shall be strictly forbidden for the competitor to pull up on
the posing trunks so as to show the top inside of the
quadriceps.
The judge should first see whether the competitor can
show a good spread of the latissimus muscles, thereby
creating a V-shaped torso. Then the judge should
continue with the head-to-foot survey, noting first the
general aspectsof the physique and then concentrating on
the more detailed aspects of the various muscle groups.

3. Side Chest (see Figure 3)
The competitor may choose either side for this pose, in
order to display the “better” arm. He will stand with his
left or right side towards the judges and will bend the arm
nearest the judges to a right-angle position, with the fist
clenched and, with the other hand, will grasp the wrist.
The leg nearest the judges will be bent at the knee and
will rest on the toes. The competitor will then expand the
chest and by upward pressure of the front bent arm and
contract the biceps as much as possible. He will also
contract the thigh muscles, in particular, the biceps
femoris group, and by downward pressure on his toes,
will display the contracted calf muscles.
The judge will pay particular attention to the pectoral
muscles and the arch of the rib cage, the biceps, the leg
biceps and the calves, and will conclude with the head-tofoot
examination. In this pose the judge will be able to
survey the thigh and calf muscles in profile, which will
help in grading their comparative development more
accurately.

Back Double Biceps (see Figure 4)
Standing with his back to the judges, the competitor will
bend the arms and wrists as in the Front Double Biceps
pose, and will place one foot back, resting on the toes.
He will then contract the arm muscles as well as the
muscles of the shoulders, upper and lower back, thigh
and calf muscles.

The judge will first survey the arm muscles and then do
the head-to-foot survey, during which there are more
muscle groups to look at than in all of the other poses.
This includes the neck, deltoids, biceps, triceps, forearm,
trapezius, teres, infraspinatus, erector spinae, external
obliques, latissimus dorsi, gluteus, thigh biceps, and
calves. This pose, probably more than the others, will
help the judge to determine the quality of the
competitor’s muscle density, definition, and overall
balance.

Back Lat Spread (see Figure 5)
Standing with his back to the judges, the competitor will
place his hands on his waist with his elbows kept wide,
one foot back and resting on the toes. He will then
contract the latissimus dorsi as wide as possible and
display a calf contraction by pressing downward on the
rear toes. The competitor should make an effort to
display the opposite calf to that which was displayed
during the back double biceps pose so the the judge may
assess both calf muscle equally. It shall be strictly
forbidden for the competitor to pull up on the posing
trunks so as to show the gluteus maximus muscles.
The judge will look for a good spread of the latissimus
dorsi, but also for good muscle density and will again
conclude with the head-to-foot survey.

6. Side Triceps (see Figure 6)
The competitor may choose either side for this pose so as
to show the “better” arm. He will stand with his left or
right side towards the judges and will place both arms
behind his back, either linking his fingers or grasping the
front arm by the wrist with his rear hand. The leg nearest
the judges will be bent at the knee and the foot will rest
flat on the floor. The competitor will exert pressure
against his front arm, thereby causing the triceps muscle
to contract. He will also raise the chest and contract the
abdominal muscles as well as the thigh and calf muscles.
The judge will first survey the triceps muscles, and
conclude with the head-to-foot examination. In this pose,
the judge will be able to survey the thigh and calf muscles
in profile, which will help in grading their comparative
development more accurately.

Abdominals and Thighs (see Figure 7)
Standing face front to the judges, the competitor will
place both arms behind the head and will place one leg
forward. He will then contract the abdominal muscles by
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“crunching” the trunk slightly forward. At the same time,
he will contract the thigh muscles of the forward leg.
The judge will survey the abdominal and thigh muscles,
and then conclude with the head-to-foot examination.

[che]

Shawn doesn't beat Dorian according to this

When assessing a competitor’s physique, a judge should follow a
routine procedure which will allow a comprehensive assessment of
the physique as a whole. During the comparisons of the
compulsory poses, the judge should first look at the primary
muscle group being displayed. The judge should then survey the
whole physique, starting from the head, and looking at every part
of the physique in a downward sequence, beginning with general
impressions, and looking for muscular bulk, balanced
development, muscular density and definition. The downward
survey should take in the head, neck, shoulders, chest, all of the
arm muscles, front of the trunk for pectorals, pec-delt tie-in,
abdominals, waist, thighs, legs, calves and feet. The same
procedure for back poses will also take in the upper and lower
trapezius, teres and infraspinatus, erector spinae, the gluteus
group, the leg biceps group at the back of the thighs, calves, and
feet. A detailed assessment of the various muscle groups should
be made during the comparisons, at which time it helps the judge
to compare muscle shape, density, and definition while still
bearing in mind the competitor’s overall balanced development.
The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.

Thank you , Shawn should've won .