Shawn Ray talking smack about Dorian Yates on BFTO

[King Shizzo]

Where are all these 5'0" ones? like I just said the ideal height seems to be between 5''8" and 5'11"

Shawn Ray is the most complete bodybuilder of all time. He was perfectly proportional.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Shawn Ray is the most complete bodybuilder of all time. He was perfectly proportional.

Oh boy lol Labrada out classes him

[erics]

Different era , biggest guys competing back then was 200/210lbs and Zane had an edge on conditioning as well as aesthetics and balance

He had an edge on conditioning as well as aesthetics and balance...

Yes, that's right.

Unless the judging criteria gives a breakdown of the value of each component assessed, then as long as lip service is paid to aesthetics and balance, shock and awe size and conditioning will always win. So, from that 'realistic' perspective, it is obvious why Dorian should always beat Ray (and everyone else).

But you don't agree with it even though you understand it.

My advice would be to argue in favour of changing the judging process to get 'better' physiques to win, if you take my meaning.

[erics]

Shawn Ray is a beautiful athlete if you see him alone.

But wanting to be like him is something else.

Seriously, never ever would I want to be 5ft5 (because that's his real height), no matter what body!

That's why he always lost from Dorian and others. End of the line.

Who is asking anyone to be 5 foot anything?

It's Rays sense of presentation, balance and aesthetics that bodybuilders should be striving towards.

[che]

Height plays into structure , balance & proportion

Oh brother 

[erics]

Height plays into structure , balance & proportion , some guys who are short like Lee Labrada have outstanding structures and proportions they look much taller ( alone ) than what they are...

They look bigger and taller because they have better proportions and balance. If the bigger guys had the same level of balance and proportion, Labrada and Ray would never even had a look in.

Muscle looks better on a taller frame

Only if it is better balanced.

[Bevo]

no but the taller you are the more size you can carry

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Yes and no about your frame and structure and height has little to do with that

Take flex and Cormier  , around same height but flexs frame can't carry the mass like Cormier and def can't match Coleman who was also the same height

Same could be said about Heath, around the same height compared to jay but jays frame is bigger and wider so he can carry more mass

Heath is maxed out pretty much. Flex looked his best at 218/230 max , frame can't handle 250+

[anabolichalo]

Yes and no about your frame and structure and height has little to do with that

Take flex and Cormier  , around same height but flexs frame can't carry the mass like Cormier and def can't match Coleman who was also the same height

Same could be said about Heath, around the same height compared to jay but jays frame is bigger and wider so he can carry more mass

Heath is maxed out pretty much. Flex looked his best at 218/230 max , frame can't handle 250+

how come coleman could carry so much?

he isnt very wide actually

[King Shizzo]

how come coleman could carry so much?

he isnt very wide actually

Wider than Heath.

[Bevo]

how come coleman could carry so much?

he isnt very wide actually

Look at the pics of him next to Cormier, flex, levrone. He's pretty wide.. Bone structure, frame is bigger than flex

And the pics of Coleman when he was in college

Heath naturally is a very small guy, heck a lot of these guys are but Heath is narrow and small to began with more so than others

[erics]

Flex looked his best at 218/230 max , frame can't handle 250+

It's the judges responsibility to ensure that physiques that have gone beyond what they can handle are not judged highly.

[Hulkster]

two different worlds

shawn deserved to win in 1994

[Thespritz0]

Koloseum Gym in the vid, miss that place

^^
I miss the female co-owner

[Marine]

Shawn was narrow , Lee wasn't and he's even shorter

LEVRONE WIPINT THE FLOOR IWITH EVERYBODY

THICK AS A VRICK

TALLER THAN THE MANLET OSHAW AND LABRADA THE homo


LEVRONE RAPING THEM, ALL LIKE NO TOMORROW



LOOK HOW NARROW IS LEE PRIEST

NARROWER THAN A 5 YEAR OLD  GIRL



NASSER AND KEVING WIPING THE FLOOR WITH DORINA THE BRITISH Wc WITH TORN TO SHIT ARMS

[King Shizzo]

So is it wider than Heath, or narrower than Priest? 

[arce1988]

  Lee P. is a little bit wider than Phil H.

[King Shizzo]

 

  Lee P. is a little bit wider than Phil H.