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Ivy League Education
« on: March 03, 2011, 08:21:48 AM »
Just send your kids to community college instead.

http://www.suntimes.com/4099633-521/northwestern-university-defends-after-class-live-sex-demonstration.html


“The students seemed really intrigued,” says Faith Kroll, with her fiance, Jim Marcus, who used a sex-toy to bring her to orgasm during an optional lecture on fetishes after an NU human sexuality class. | Scott Stewart~Sun-TImes
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More than 100 Northwestern University students watched as a naked 25-year-old woman was penetrated by a sex toy wielded by her fiancee during an after-class session of the school’s popular “Human Sexuality” class.

The woman said she showed up at the Feb. 21 lecture in the Ryan Family Auditorium in Evanston expecting just to answer questions, but was game to demonstrate. The course’s professor on Wednesday acknowledged some initial hesitation, but said student feedback was “uniformly positive.”

And Northwestern defended the class and its professor.

“Northwestern University faculty members engage in teaching and research on a wide variety of topics, some of them controversial and at the leading edge of their respective disciplines,” said Alan K. Cubbage, vice president for University Relations. “The University supports the efforts of its faculty to further the advancement of knowledge.”

The optional, non-credit demo followed psychology Prof. John Michael Bailey’s sexuality class. Nearly 600 students are in Bailey’s class this quarter, and most didn’t stick around for the after-class show, which featured four members of Chicago’s fetish community describing “BDSM,” or bondage, discipline, sadism and masochism.

“I didn’t expect to see a live sex show,” said Justin Smith, 21, a senior economics and political science major who was in the after-class session. “We were told we were going to have some people talk to us about the fetish world and kink.”

Smith said it took him awhile to process what happened, but he doesn’t object to the way the material was presented.

“It was for me academic like everything else,” he said.

He told his grandparents about the class.

“My grandma was like, wow, Northwestern is a little bit different then when I went there,” he said.

In a statement, Bailey said he hesitated briefly before allowing the public sex act.

“My hesitation concerned the likelihood that many people would find this inappropriate,” he wrote. “My decision to say ‘yes’ reflected my inability to come up with a legitimate reason why students should not be able to watch such a demonstration.”

After the demonstration, several students tried a different sex toy that gave a “titillating” but not painful shock, testing it out on their arms, said Ken Melvoin-Berg, who narrated the after-class lecture. Melvoin-Berg said the school paid him between $300 to $500 for his appearance.

Faith Kroll, the woman who stripped, was laying down on a towel when she was penetrated. When she arrived, she thought she just would be answering students’ questions and showing off sex toys they brought, including whips, paddles and a clown wig.

An “absurd, clinical” video and subsequent discussion about various aspects of female orgasm led Faith and her partner Jim Marcus, 45, to prove to the class that female orgasm is real.

Faith said she was not coerced in any way and students were repeatedly warned it was going to get graphic.

“One of the students asked what my specific fetish was and mine is being in front of people, having the attention and being used,” she said. “The students seemed really intrigued.”

In his statement, Bailey said student feedback was “uniformly positive.”

Marcus, a musician who said he has worked as a sex educator, said he thinks it is “smart and important” for students to be learn about sexuality.

“It’s really scary for young people who want to get involved in the BDSM community who don’t understand issues regarding consent and safety,” he said.

Melvoin-Berg said he met Prof. Bailey through a swinging couple who previously spoke to the class. Melvoin-Berg runs the “Weird Chicago Red Light District Sex Tour,” which has participants playing games like “spot the ho” as they travel the city looking for prostitutes. He also teaches “Networking for Kinky People,” a 3-hour version of the one hour lecture he gave at Northwestern.

Melvoin-Berg said the sex toy used was BDSM, but was “not like a pain thing...we wanted to make it poignant.”

“I did mention this was going to be the best money their parents had spent on their education,” he said.

Bill Yarber, a researcher at Indiana University’s Kinsey Institute for Research in Sex, Gender, and Reproduction and author of the textbook Human Sexuality: Diversity in Contemporary America, said he’s never heard of a naked woman being brought to orgasm in front of a class of students.

“The way you present it there is very unconventional,” he said. “There’s certain boundaries of things, I think, that are acceptable and that would certainly be pushing that.”

This isn’t Bailey’s first brush with controversy. His 2003 book, “The Man Who Would Be Queen,” sparked hostile debate in the transgender community by claiming that there were more reasons for men to become women then simply that biology trapped them in the wrong body. Several transgender women who spoke with Bailey claimed they did not consent to being used for research and accused him of practicing psychology without a license.

Bailey said in his statement Wednesday that during the Feb. 21 after-class lecture, “I was not in a mood to surrender to sex negativity and fear.”

“Do I have any regrets?” he wrote on Wednesday. “It is mostly too early to say. I certainly have no regrets concerning Northwestern students, who have demonstrated that they are open-minded grown ups rather than fragile children.”
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Re: Ivy League Education
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2011, 08:23:40 AM »
edit:  the toy used was a dildo attached to a sawzall.
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Re: Ivy League Education
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2011, 08:23:51 AM »

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Re: Ivy League Education
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2011, 08:26:49 AM »
Northwestern is a hard ass university to get into.  :D
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2011, 08:31:05 AM »

 

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Re: Ivy League Education
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2011, 08:35:13 AM »
Northwestern is not a member of the ivy league and compared to the ivy league not that hard to get into.

Go Gamecocks!

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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2011, 08:38:02 AM »
Northwestern is not a member of the ivy league and compared to the ivy league not that hard to get into.

Go Gamecocks!


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Re: Ivy League Education
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2011, 08:38:57 AM »

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Re: Ivy League Education
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2011, 08:51:04 AM »
Northwestern is not a member of the ivy league and compared to the ivy league not that hard to get into.

Go Gamecocks!

x2.  Sigh. What getbiggers don't know.  ::)

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Re: Ivy League Education
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2011, 09:43:22 AM »
x2.  Sigh. What getbiggers don't know.  ::)

Inform us on Northwestern, but nothing else.  :o :o It is a great Liberal Arts school.  ;) I have a few buddies who went there and Georgetown too.  :D I actually have a ex who is now at Georgetown Med school.
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Re: Ivy League Education
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2011, 10:00:12 AM »
Inform us on Northwestern, but nothing else.  :o :o It is a great Liberal Arts school.  ;) I have a few buddies who went there and Georgetown too.  :D I actually have a ex who is now at Georgetown Med school.
I have cousin who grad from Northwestern Law School. Don't know what he does...

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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2011, 10:14:29 AM »
I have cousin who grad from Northwestern Law School. Don't know what he does...

He makes Damn good $$$.  8) NW offered me nothing, but i have some friends that went there and are currently there.  ;)
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Re: Ivy League Education
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2011, 10:25:58 AM »
I have cousin who grad from Northwestern Law School. Don't know what he does...

Is he a Bahai?

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Re: Ivy League Education
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2011, 11:20:30 AM »
I have cousin who grad from Northwestern Law School. Don't know what he does...

I'll tell ya what he does.....cashes big fucking checks.

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(MBA from Northwestern, Kellogg School of Management - Go Cats!)

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Re: Ivy League Education
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2011, 11:24:09 AM »
Is he a Bahai?
Of the Baha'i faith, no...he's not...
He was working while he was there, then got married....

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Re: Ivy League Education
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2011, 11:26:05 AM »
I, actually, took that class in college

It was called Human Sexuality


It was, actually, a awesome class and i was gonna switch my major to "Sexual Education" because of it


i remember one time we watched a video of a older couple having sex.  The lesson to learn from it was that sexuality is something  that never subsides even inspite of our age.

Even though it wasn't "sexy" it was "sex" and our ultimate form of expression is via sex

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Re: Ivy League Education
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Re: Ivy League Education
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2011, 12:12:42 PM »
I presume someone has pointed out that Northwestern isn't in the Ivy League?

MBP what conference do you think Stanford is in?

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Re: Ivy League Education
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2011, 12:13:34 PM »
I, actually, took that class in college

It was called Human Sexuality


It was, actually, a awesome class and i was gonna switch my major to "Sexual Education" because of it


i remember one time we watched a video of a older couple having sex.  The lesson to learn from it was that sexuality is something  that never subsides even inspite of our age.

Even though it wasn't "sexy" it was "sex" and our ultimate form of expression is via sex
You basically you got to watch porn and analize it...and you paid for that clss, when you could have downloaded that shit for free...

It's called "being pimped!"

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Re: Ivy League Education
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2011, 12:22:41 PM »
Education of peace ::)

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Re: Ivy League Education
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2011, 01:23:53 PM »
I presume someone has pointed out that Northwestern isn't in the Ivy League?

MBP what conference do you think Stanford is in?

Ok, I realize it's not in the Ivy League, but around here we refer to northwestern as "ivy league" due to its reputation and standing.  i live 2 miles from the center of the campus, and there are some students / professors there that live on a different dimension than most of us mortals do.  i'm not much for intelligentsia, but some of these assholes' smarts are just mindblowing.

and yes, whoever went to kellog probably isn't in line for foodstamps right now.
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Re: Ivy League Education
« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2011, 01:56:47 PM »
Ok, I realize it's not in the Ivy League, but around here we refer to northwestern as "ivy league" due to its reputation and standing.  i live 2 miles from the center of the campus, and there are some students / professors there that live on a different dimension than most of us mortals do.  i'm not much for intelligentsia, but some of these assholes' smarts are just mindblowing.

and yes, whoever went to kellog probably isn't in line for foodstamps right now.

tbombz became an expert on everything after a year in community college, no?

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Re: Ivy League Education
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2011, 02:29:07 PM »
Ivy League educations are overrated, just take a look at John Kerry.

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« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2011, 02:32:31 PM »
Ivy League educations are overrated, just take a look at John Kerry.

says the man without a college degree.

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« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2011, 03:21:36 PM »
Ok, I realize it's not in the Ivy League, but around here we refer to northwestern as "ivy league" due to its reputation and standing.  i live 2 miles from the center of the campus, and there are some students / professors there that live on a different dimension than most of us mortals do.  i'm not much for intelligentsia, but some of these assholes' smarts are just mindblowing.

and yes, whoever went to kellog probably isn't in line for foodstamps right now.

2 miles north of campus = spoiled Wilmette brat.
2 miles west = white trash
2 miles south = Skokie jew
2 miles east = mermaid

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