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One Day ON, One Day OFF
« on: March 03, 2011, 02:10:37 PM »
of protein that is.

Layne Norton and David Barr been saying that larger infrequent feedings of protein is superior.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/protein_pulse_feeding.htm


So why not take it further by only adding protein  every other day:

Something like 50g protein from regular grains, rise etc on the off day, then next day on, we have 350g or so added protein.

The body should suck up all the protein during the ON days and possible adding 1 lbs of muscle every 2nd day.



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Re: One Day ON, One Day OFF
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2011, 02:43:01 PM »
this is assuming you are natural?

I imagine it works different for hormonized fellas since they have a much higher protein synthesis.

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Re: One Day ON, One Day OFF
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2011, 02:47:51 PM »
Brutal waste of time. Why pack 5 meals for a day when you can just shoot up 200mg/wk and have 10x the results?

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Re: One Day ON, One Day OFF
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2011, 03:07:21 PM »
in my newest theory i find its best to train heavy and breif, training heavy will make you breath hard as fuck, it is key IMO that the workout difficult enough that you reach your Vo2 max each workout or maximum oxygen capacity

i dont beleive anymore in hypertrophy training with alot of reps and sets of sumbmaximal weights. ive done it throughout the years and there really isnt progression for me. but hypertrophy training with 'dieting' is good to look conditioned


i feel training breifly and maximally, or maximal weights or maximal sprinting . is good in the sense it doesnt completley destroy the body , because after all these years volume training should have me benchin 500 right with all the volume ive done in the past even with maximal eating right? well maximum eating and training doesnt work for me. so this will be a new approach to lift heaviest weights possible and run fastest sprints possible but eat as needed , no reduction of calories and no forcefeeding
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Re: One Day ON, One Day OFF
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2011, 03:13:30 PM »
12 days of ultra low protein + high reps, low volume, medium intesity (lots of healthy fruit juice, etc)

followed by 2 weeks of M1T 10 mg per day, steaks 3 times a day, brutal workouts everyday

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Re: One Day ON, One Day OFF
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2011, 03:28:20 PM »
in my newest theory i find its best to train heavy and breif, training heavy will make you breath hard as fuck, it is key IMO that the workout difficult enough that you reach your Vo2 max each workout or maximum oxygen capacity

i dont beleive anymore in hypertrophy training with alot of reps and sets of sumbmaximal weights. ive done it throughout the years and there really isnt progression for me. but hypertrophy training with 'dieting' is good to look conditioned


i feel training breifly and maximally, or maximal weights or maximal sprinting . is good in the sense it doesnt completley destroy the body , because after all these years volume training should have me benchin 500 right with all the volume ive done in the past even with maximal eating right? well maximum eating and training doesnt work for me. so this will be a new approach to lift heaviest weights possible and run fastest sprints possible but eat as needed , no reduction of calories and no forcefeeding

volume hypertrophy training is really taxing, I used to that alot, it required lost of rest and food and was time consuming overall.

and gives constant muscle soreness

now doing more  intense, shorter low volume training I haven't noticed any loss of strength, and with no suppressed athletic abilities

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Re: One Day ON, One Day OFF
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2011, 03:42:28 PM »
volume hypertrophy training is really taxing, I used to that alot, it required lost of rest and food and was time consuming overall.

and gives constant muscle soreness

now doing more  intense, shorter low volume training I haven't noticed any loss of strength, and with no suppressed athletic abilities

well i stopped even getting constant muscle soreness from max volume max eating  :-\ ...my results are that i have no progress even when maximal eating wich totally doesnt seem to fit, i guess my body just cant handle it in order to grow from it. my body adapts but it simply doesnt get stronger.

i found the best way to get that little sublimnal soreness and strength gain was heavy weights in sets of 3 and about 8-10 sets a bodypart and about four to five 100 yard sprints and taking a day off inbetween these workouts. for example full body every other day. so far progress is good

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Re: One Day ON, One Day OFF
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2011, 03:45:06 PM »
in my newest theory i find its best to train heavy and breif, training heavy will make you breath hard as fuck, it is key IMO that the workout difficult enough that you reach your Vo2 max each workout or maximum oxygen capacity

i dont beleive anymore in hypertrophy training with alot of reps and sets of sumbmaximal weights. ive done it throughout the years and there really isnt progression for me. but hypertrophy training with 'dieting' is good to look conditioned


i feel training breifly and maximally, or maximal weights or maximal sprinting . is good in the sense it doesnt completley destroy the body , because after all these years volume training should have me benchin 500 right with all the volume ive done in the past even with maximal eating right? well maximum eating and training doesnt work for me. so this will be a new approach to lift heaviest weights possible and run fastest sprints possible but eat as needed , no reduction of calories and no forcefeeding

Wow! This is quite a change from what you've done in the past. It is good to see that you are open to trying new things. As you indicated, it does depend on what one is working to accomplish. If one is trying to get cut, then higher reps and slightly lower weights can be the way to do this. Otherwise, to grow one must challenge their muscles, which usually means maximumizing the weight resistance and doing fewer reps.

As far as eating, if one is tuned into their bodies needs, they will know when to eat more and when to cut back. It is always better to eat less and eat more frequently though. I add protein to my diet every day that I hit the gym. Otherwise I just eat healthy without added protein. This seems to work for me.

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Re: One Day ON, One Day OFF
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2011, 03:50:53 PM »
You're getting there Falcon. If you keep at it and focus on PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD you are gonna be a true beast ma man ;D 260 @ sub-8 is where you would be headed bro. OH FUCK! LOOK OUT COZ THE FALCON BEAST IS COMING YOUR WAY 8)

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Re: One Day ON, One Day OFF
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2011, 04:12:40 PM »
were talking about protein modulation, fuck nuts.

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Re: One Day ON, One Day OFF
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2011, 07:42:39 AM »
how about this...find a person who became large and muscular through drugs training and food..and do what they do in regards to drugs training and food.
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