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State officials back off Capitol damage claim
« on: March 04, 2011, 04:09:48 PM »

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

Madison — State officials charged with overseeing the state Capitol are now backing away from their estimate that demonstrators did more than $7 million in damage to the building.

"I think that's more of a worst-case scenario," said Jeff Plale, the former Democratic state senator who is now the state facilities administrator. "There are other estimates."

Touring the Capitol Friday morning with state architect Dan Stephans, Plale said he had not immediately observed any damage from demonstrations over Gov. Scott Walker's budget-repair bill, though the pair was just starting their tour. Plale said that he didn't believe the state had had any experienced contractor provide the quote on the damages.

Officials said in Dane County court Thursday that the damage could come from tape used for posting fliers and papers and other materials.

Workers were already beginning to remove those Friday. In one second-floor hallway at least, a Journal Sentinel reporter could see no damage to the marble where the tape had been removed.

In court Thursday, officials with the Walker administration said that damage from the demonstration to the marble inside and outside the Capitol would cost an estimated $7.5 million: $6 million for damage inside, $1 million for damage outside and $500,000 for additional expenses. State officials made the claim as they were arguing their case for restricting access to the statehouse.

A Dane County judge ruled later that day that the Capitol must be opened to the public but that protesters camping out in the building also had to be removed. The building is now being opened up to the public, though there are still some restrictions and high security.

In court, the state cited concerns about the statehouse expressed by Michele Curran, an architectural historian with the National Park Service who coordinates national historic landmarks in Wisconsin.

In an interview Thursday, Curran said that certain kinds of tape can leave lasting residues on the marble and wood surfaces of the Capitol if the tape is not removed properly.

Stephans added Friday that the Capitol has more than 40 kinds of marble and that the chemistry of those stones and of different kinds of tape can interact differently. The longer the tape remains in place, the greater the chance for some effect, he said.

But Curran said she didn't know how the state had arrived at its damage figures. She said only a professional cleaning service experienced in such work and familiar with the situation in the Capitol could accurately estimate cleanup costs. But Plale said Friday he wasn't aware of the state receiving any such estimate yet.

Many of the papers and banners posted in the statehouse were put up using painter's tape, which is employed to minimize effects on walls. Stephans said Friday he had ordered the tape sent to the Capitol during the demonstrations to minimize effects on the building.

State Rep. Brett Hulsey (D-Madison) Thursday questioned the damage figure.

"That's a lot of bottles of Formula 409," he said.

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Re: State officials back off Capitol damage claim
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2011, 06:08:09 PM »
Yep and obamas trip overseas cost  7 trillion gazillion dollars.   They just pull this stuff out of their ass i guess. ???

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Re: State officials back off Capitol damage claim
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2011, 06:26:47 PM »
They caused a ton of damage all around, not to mention the failure to be able to resrtructure the debt costing 165 million.

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Re: State officials back off Capitol damage claim
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2011, 09:51:33 AM »
According to Sean Heiser, the Association of Federal, State, County, and Municipal Employees field supervisor who oversees an eight-person team that keeps the Capitol clean, the clean-up can be accomplished with readily available solvents and the damage claimed is "just not there."       no wonder walker can't balance the budget he was going to spend 7 million to clean tape off walls  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: State officials back off Capitol damage claim
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2011, 10:25:51 AM »
The International Union of Painters and Allied Trades offered to clean it up for free.
 http://wispolitics.com/index.iml?Article=229057

The International Union of Painters and Allied Trades District Council 7 has over 100 years of experience in painting and in the removal of adhesive tapes from the Capitol building. IUPAT Business Manager John Jorgensen believes that the estimates to Capitol damage by state officials are not accurate.

“After inspecting the Capitol early Friday morning I am 100% confident that any so-called 'damage' done by community members expressing their First Amendment rights is no where near $7 million. This estimate is yet another gross overreach. I would like to personally offer IUPAT labor on a volunteer basis to address any alleged damage from protester’s signs and tape during the protests.”

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Re: State officials back off Capitol damage claim
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2011, 10:27:44 AM »
Wow.... Walker is right about the fact that Unions are abusing their pwoer to extort taxpayer money, but he can't stop stepping in sh*t when it comes to making himself look bad with his own asinine statements.  Did he not think his insanely high number wouldn't be looked at by the people who actually do the cleaning there?   ???


And the actual janitorial staff there totally punctures Walker's claim 
 
http://www.prwatch.org/news/2011/03/10286/cmd-volunteer...
Luckily, the janitorial staff who actually has extensive experience cleaning the marble walls and floors and metal railings at the Capitol have weighed in. According to Sean Heiser, the Association of Federal, State, County, and Municipal Employees field supervisor who oversees an eight-person team that keeps the Capitol clean, the clean-up can be accomplished with readily available solvents and the damage claimed is "just not there."


All this really does highlight even more the games Walker is trying to play with the budget there since the bogus estimate is based on no-bid outsourcing to private business which isn't even directly related to the project (Art conservation being somewhat different than building clean-up).
 

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Re: State officials back off Capitol damage claim
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2011, 10:37:27 AM »
Walker didn't make the claim jackass.

Btw - these unions pieces of trash are going to have to live w thousands of layoffs due to their childish shit, not that you or the other left wing dopes care. 

The amazing ignorance and stupidity of union goons and leftists near ceases to amaze me.  Walker proposed a plan w no layoffs. Now there will be thousands due to union thug tactics.  Great fucking job as usual.

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Re: State officials back off Capitol damage claim
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2011, 11:41:06 AM »
Walker didn't make the claim jackass.

"In court Thursday, officials with the Walker administration said that damage from the demonstration to the marble inside and outside the Capitol would cost an estimated $7.5 million"


Did he fire the officials who delivered the false claim on his behalf?  No?  Did he issue a retraction in which he pointed out their error, alerting us this was a rogue operator who pulled numbers out of his ass? 

Nope.  Walker owns it when someone in his admin makes an official announcement.

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Re: State officials back off Capitol damage claim
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2011, 11:47:30 AM »
Funny - when obama admn does the same shit you do everything to shift blame away from your hero.  When its a repub - you are all over it. 

240 "I am a libertarian" - ha ha ga ha ha. 

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Re: State officials back off Capitol damage claim
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2011, 12:07:46 PM »
"In court Thursday, officials with the Walker administration said that damage from the demonstration to the marble inside and outside the Capitol would cost an estimated $7.5 million"


Did he fire the officials who delivered the false claim on his behalf?  No?  Did he issue a retraction in which he pointed out their error, alerting us this was a rogue operator who pulled numbers out of his ass? 

Nope.  Walker owns it when someone in his admin makes an official announcement.


i think i remember someone saying that  ;D