911 on precontest supplement cycle - problem with winstrol

[Xfactormuscle]

I need some advice to replace winstrol in my cycle or at least bring it down.

I was on

200 mg winst
200 mg eqipoise
275 mg sust
200 propionate
200 trembolone

this 3 x per week.

I am currently 250 lbs (6'1) and 5 weeks out a show. Looking good, need to lose another 10 lbs or so.
The winstrol I am using is making me huge bumps and lumps and I cannot get the zambon ones. I have to take a strong antibiotic to bring down the swellings and it looks ugly.

I suggest replacing the winstriol with anavar (orals) and masterone and maybe do a very low dose of winstrol.

Let me know what you guys thying

[lesaucer]

just inject more trenbolona.. its the new vibe

[Xfactormuscle]

bump...

[Arnold jr]

Instead of injecting the winstrol just drink it. It will have the exact same effect drinking it as it will injecting it with one exception...it's impossible to get a lump or infection from drinking it.

[Xfactormuscle]

Well the liver will try to break it down... orals are never as efficient as substances that go into the blood stream bypassing the "filter" of the liver. so how much more do I need to take in order to get the same buzz? is there a generally accepted formula?

[Arnold jr]

Well the liver will try to break it down... orals are never as efficient as substances that go into the blood stream bypassing the "filter" of the liver. so how much more do I need to take in order to get the same buzz? is there a generally accepted formula?

Winstrol will survive the liver. 50mg injected or 50mg taken orally will produce the same results.

[Xfactormuscle]

Hi Arnold - why do people inject at all then? Do you have any reference for your statement that winstrol is not deactivated by stomach, bile, liver, etc? Would really appreciate.

[Arnold jr]

Hi Arnold - why do people inject at all then? Do you have any reference for your statement that winstrol is not deactivated by stomach, bile, liver, etc? Would really appreciate.

The concern with orally ingested steroids is not surrounded by the stomach breaking them down, if it were no oral steroids would work. Winstrol is designed to survive the first pass of the liver, the liver being the organ that would have the ability to destroy the drug if any.

There are thousands of Winstrol/Stanozolol profiles online, most any should alleviate any concern you have. Some will say the nitrogen content is higher if injected and although on paper this is true the difference is negligible IMO. Anyone who has used winny for any length of time can attest to this and that's stronger proof than any piece of paper.

[Stavios]

Instead of injecting the winstrol just drink it. It will have the exact same effect drinking it as it will injecting it with one exception...it's impossible to get a lump or infection from drinking it.

X10000
I am scared to shoot anything water based

[local hero]

just use stromba instead and inject the other more frequently

[tbombz]

Hi Arnold - why do people inject at all then? Do you have any reference for your statement that winstrol is not deactivated by stomach, bile, liver, etc? Would really appreciate.

people inject because not all steroids are designed for oral consumption. test, deca, tren, equipoise, and others must be injected. winstrol, dbol, anadrol, anavar, and others can be taken by mouth because they are designed for that purpose.

[Xfactormuscle]

My last question should be read as: "why do people inject winstrol at all, which is painful, when it can also be taken orally with no loss of strenght."

I did ask around, and the result was somewhat ambiguous. My coach said it would be much weakened, a pro I know said it's ok to take...