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Britain mum on SAS troops in Libya
« on: March 06, 2011, 07:43:01 AM »
Britain mum on SAS troops in Libya
2011-03-06 16:22

London - Britain said on Sunday that it had a small diplomatic team in Benghazi but refused to confirm reports that a diplomat and Special Air Service soldiers were being held in Libya's second city.

The Sunday Times newspaper said the SAS unit was captured along with the junior diplomat they were escorting through the rebel-held east and who was seeking contact with opponents of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi.

"We can neither confirm nor deny the report," a Foreign Office spokesperson told AFP.

A correspondent for the BBC based in Benghazi said he had been informed that a helicopter carrying six people dressed in black and carrying weapons had landed in the region in the early hours of Friday.

"These six people who came off the plane were in black clothing which make them sound like they were SAS forces," he told BBC television.

According to his sources, they were arrested and taken to a military base although the situation was expected to be resolved fairly soon.

"The opposition here have an understanding of the situation that these people are not hostile people. The problem was to arriving on a helicopter, in the middle of the night, carrying weapons. You can understand the sort of fear that provoked here," the correspondent added.

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The defence ministry said it did not comment on the special forces, while Defence Secretary Liam Fox told BBC television: "I can confirm that a small British diplomatic team is in Benghazi.

"We are in touch with them but it would be inappropriate for me to comment further," he added.

For his part, Mustafa Gheriani, spokesperson for the rebels' self-declared national council in Libya's second city of Benghazi, refused to comment.

"I have absolutely nothing to say," he told AFP.

The Sunday Times claimed that the uninvited appearance of the SAS alongside the diplomat "angered Libyan opposition figures who ordered the soldiers to be locked up in a military base".

Opponents of Gaddafi "fear he could use any evidence of Western military interference to rally patriotic support for his regime", the weekly broadsheet added.

The newspaper said that according to Libyan sources, the SAS soldiers were taken by rebels to Benghazi, held by the opposition, and hauled up before a senior figure.

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The Sunday Times said a British source, who confirmed the men had been detained, said the diplomat they were protecting had wanted to make contact with the rebels to prepare the way for a visit by a senior colleague.

It cited a source close to the opposition leadership as saying rebel officials were worried that Libyan people might think from the escort party that "foreign troops have started to interfere by landing in Libya".

British service personnel have already been involved in the rescue of British nationals working on oil installations in remote desert camps.

Prime Minister David Cameron last week said Western countries should be stepping up contact with the Libyan opposition to gain a greater understanding of their intentions.

In a statement on Sunday, Foreign Secretary William Hague called upon Gaddafi "to put an immediate stop to the use of armed force against the Libyan people".

He added: "The UK reiterates its support for the transition to a government that will deliver greater democracy, justice, transparency, human rights and accountability in Libya."

In Britain on Saturday, the defence ministry said about 200 troops had been placed on standby to help with evacuation and humanitarian operations in Libya.

However a YouGov poll of 2 413 adults for The Sunday Times found low support for using troops in Libya.


- AFP


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Re: Britain mum on SAS troops in Libya
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Libya unrest: UK diplomatic team released by rebels
The British team left Benghazi on board the Royal Navy frigate, HMS Cumberland Continue reading the main story
A British diplomatic team who were detained in eastern Libya after landing there two days ago have been freed, the Foreign Office has confirmed.

The men are understood to have left Benghazi bound for Malta on board the Royal Navy frigate HMS Cumberland.

It is thought the team included six SAS soldiers escorting a diplomat who was making contact with opposition leaders.

Witnesses said the men were detained by rebels after arriving near Benghazi in a helicopter early on Friday morning.

They were held after going to an agricultural compound when Libyan security guards found they were carrying arms, ammunition, explosives, maps and passports from at least four different nationalities, witnesses told the BBC.

The witnesses said the men had denied they were carrying weapons.

In a statement on Sunday, Foreign Secretary William Hague said the team, part of efforts to make contact with opposition leaders amid the unrest in Libya, had "experienced difficulties, which have now been satisfactorily resolved".

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He added: "We intend, in consultation with the opposition, to send a further team to strengthen our dialogue in due course. This diplomatic effort is part of the UK's wider work on Libya, including our ongoing humanitarian support.

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Analysis
Gordon Corera
 
Security correspondent, BBC News
 
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Despite the presence of special forces, this was no covert military mission. Its aim instead was to reach out to opposition groups in the east and gain a better understanding of what was happening on the ground.

The role of the soldiers was to protect the diplomat involved - a regular practice in war zones and hostile environments.

But in the fluid, confusing situation in the Middle East, the arrival of this first team, landed by helicopter at night and with armed men in black, was misinterpreted as something altogether different.

Despite the failure of this mission, officials have said that efforts to reach out to opposition groups are likely to continue - although the manner of their arrival next time might be different.

Gaddafi troops' 'gains' disputed
"We continue to press for [Libyan leader Muammar] Gaddafi to step down and we will work with the international community to support the legitimate ambitions of the Libyan people."

Also on Sunday, Libyan State TV broadcast what it described as a recording of a phone call between Britain's ambassador to Libya, Richard Northern, and a rebel spokesman, in which they discussed the British team's situation.

On the recording, Mr Northern asks a senior opposition figure to intervene in what he calls a "misunderstanding".

He explains a team was in eastern Libya to prepare the way for a British humanitarian mission.

The recording has not been verified, but it is known that Britain had been negotiating the release of its team.

The BBC's Jon Leyne, who is in Benghazi, says the British mission appeared to have been an "embarrassing miscalculation".

He said the UK was "obviously unaware of the reaction likely to be provoked in this tense situation by a group of armed men arriving on a helicopter, in the dead of night

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Re: Britain mum on SAS troops in Libya
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2011, 02:14:21 PM »
They just dropped in 600 SAS who are backing MI6 agents into Libya.  Looks like a backup plan in case negations dont' work out :)

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Re: Britain mum on SAS troops in Libya
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2011, 07:20:11 PM »
I still can't stop laughing at the left advocating military intervention in Libya.



(The Independent) — Desperate to avoid US military involvement in Libya in the event of a prolonged struggle between the Gaddafi regime and its opponents, the Americans have asked Saudi Arabia if it can supply weapons to the rebels in Benghazi. The Saudi Kingdom, already facing a “day of rage” from its 10 per cent Shia Muslim community on Friday, with a ban on all demonstrations, has so far failed to respond to Washington’s highly classified request, although King Abdullah personally loathes the Libyan leader, who tried to assassinate him just over a year ago.

Washington’s request is in line with other US military co-operation with the Saudis. The royal family in Jeddah, which was deeply involved in the Contra scandal during the Reagan administration, gave immediate support to American efforts to arm guerrillas fighting the Soviet army in Afghanistan in 1980 and later — to America’s chagrin — also funded and armed the Taliban.

But the Saudis remain the only US Arab ally strategically placed and capable of furnishing weapons to the guerrillas of Libya. Their assistance would allow Washington to disclaim any military involvement in the supply chain — even though the arms would be American and paid for by the Saudis.

The Saudis have been told that opponents of Gaddafi need anti-tank rockets and mortars as a first priority to hold off attacks by Gaddafi’s armour, and ground-to-air missiles to shoot down his fighter-bombers.

Supplies could reach Benghazi within 48 hours but they would need to be delivered to air bases in Libya or to Benghazi airport. If the guerrillas can then go on to the offensive and assault Gaddafi’s strongholds in western Libya, the political pressure on America and Nato — not least from Republican members of Congress — to establish a no-fly zone would be reduced.

US military planners have already made it clear that a zone of this kind would necessitate US air attacks on Libya’s functioning, if seriously depleted, anti-aircraft missile bases, thus bringing Washington directly into the war on the side of Gaddafi’s opponents.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/americas-secret-plan-to-arm-libyas-rebels-2234227.html


American operators are in there with the SAS guys. I'd guess the CIA's probably milling around on the ground there. Debka's saying that Egypt put 100 commandos on the ground there, too.  ::)

Why we're sticking our nose in a civil war is beyond me. Meanwhile, not a peep about Iran imprisoning two of the opposition leaders last week.

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Re: Britain mum on SAS troops in Libya
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2011, 07:23:29 PM »
Kerry is arguing for us to bomb Lybia! 

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Re: Britain mum on SAS troops in Libya
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2011, 07:25:17 PM »
Kerry is arguing for us to bomb Lybia!  

Hahaha, it's priceless. The left wants to do exactly what they accused Reagan of doing in Afghanistan. I don't understand why we're trying to strong-arm Saudi Arabia into supplying weapons to the rebels. Especially with reports saying that AQ guys and other jihadists are on the ground fighting alongside the rebels. Another foreign policy disaster in the making, courtesy of Team Dipshit.

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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2011, 07:29:27 PM »
Hahaha, it's priceless. The left wants to do exactly what they accused Reagan of doing in Afghanistan. I don't understand why we're trying to strong-arm Saudi Arabia into supplying weapons to the rebels. Especially with reports saying that AQ guys and other jihadists are on the ground fighting alongside the rebels. Another foreign policy disaster in the making, courtesy of Team Dipshit.
I agree
History has shown that who ever you arm in a fight, will end up using those same weapons AGAINST you at a later date

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Re: Britain mum on SAS troops in Libya
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2011, 07:30:07 PM »
Hahaha, it's priceless. The left wants to do exactly what they accused Reagan of doing in Afghanistan. I don't understand why we're trying to strong-arm Saudi Arabia into supplying weapons to the rebels. Especially with reports saying that AQ guys and other jihadists are on the ground fighting alongside the rebels. Another foreign policy disaster in the making, courtesy of Team Dipshit.

Here is why - moron in chief is again on the hook as he called for Gadaffi to step down. If Gadaffi pulls this out - it will be humiliating for Obama.  However, Obama knows he cant send marines into this civil war, so he is going to try to get his saudi masters to do the dirty work to bail him out.  

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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2011, 07:32:15 PM »
I agree
History has shown that who ever you arm in a fight, will end up using those same weapons AGAINST you at a later date

It's pretty much a civil war. Why are we picking this one to get involved in? Funny how the left, with their "The USA shouldn't play world police" agenda, wants the USA to do just that. Guess it's OK when it fits their agenda.

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Re: Britain mum on SAS troops in Libya
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2011, 08:20:09 AM »
This s going to be another massive ObamaFail.   

The rebels are going to lose and obaa is again going to look like a loser.   

What a freaking joke we have become.   BTW - I hear he spent the weekend golfing again.