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Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« on: March 07, 2011, 07:04:12 AM »
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703580004576180340862497026.html

By GRACE-MARIE TURNER, ALEX CORTES AND HEATHER R. HIGGINS
Sports fans relish this time of year for the NCAA Championship Basketball Tournament, aka "March Madness." But this year the tournament has a serious contender for that title. March is also ObamaCare's anniversary month.

Last year, President Obama gave Congress an arbitrary deadline to pass his health-care takeover legislation before the Easter recess at the end of March. This forced lawmakers to hurry their votes on a deeply flawed bill that very few of them had read. Worse, many made false promises to secure final passage.

We're already seeing ObamaCare's madness in its first year of implementation, which is why the American people continue to call for defunding, repealing and replacing it with more sensible reforms. Here are a few examples of the mayhem.

• More than half the states—28 and counting—are challenging the law in court, saying that it violates the constitutional rights of their citizens and the sovereignty of the states. A new study from the Senate Finance and House Energy and Commerce Committees found that as a result of ObamaCare, budget-strapped states face at least $118 billion in unfunded mandates during the first 10 years after the law takes effect.

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius has handed out nearly 1,000 waivers to allow select companies, unions and states to escape, at least temporarily, some of the burdensome new insurance rules she has created. This is a continuation of the trend of the "Cornhusker Kickback" and the "Louisiana Purchase" that Senate Democrats used to get the law passed in the first place, and that so disgusted the American people.

 • Independent experts have shown that the cost of health insurance will rise faster than it would have without the law. The Congressional Budget Office expects the price of a family policy in the individual market to be $2,100 higher by 2016 than it would have been had the law not passed. In at least 20 states, it's now impossible to buy child-only health insurance because of Ms. Sebelius's onerous new rules.

• Seniors are at risk of losing access to physicians and medical care. Medicare actuaries say that the cuts built into the law will force as many as 40% of providers to eventually stop seeing Medicare patients or go bankrupt.

• Many thousands of people are already losing the health insurance they have now as companies are exiting markets for individual, small group and Medicare Advantage coverage.

• The former director of the Congressional Budget Office, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, says that the costs of ObamaCare are set to explode when employers opt to drop coverage and send their workers to the new, federally subsidized health exchanges for coverage. He estimates that this will drive up the cost of the law by $1 trillion or more in the first 10 years.

The list goes on and on. It's time to stop the ObamaCare madness before it becomes another entrenched entitlement program.

To protect taxpayers and our health sector, Congress can begin by defunding ObamaCare at every opportunity. Next we need a president and a Congress that will vote to repeal the law and start over with sensible reforms. The stakes are high for the capacity of patients and doctors to choose and control their medical choices, and for all Americans' freedom and prosperity.

If we do this right, in March of 2013, instead of jumping through more of ObamaCare's hoops, let's hope we will be able to focus on basketball's March Madness instead.


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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2011, 07:23:18 AM »
The clock's ticking on ObamaCare. Judge Vinson, who ruled the whole thing as unconstitutional, said Team Obama has less than a week to file an appeal. Otherwise, the 26 states who sued and won can tell Obama to take his ObamaCare and SHOVE IT.



http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-turn/2011/03/judge_vinson_delivers_another.html

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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2011, 07:25:44 AM »
ObamaCare single handidly has destroyed whatever pospects of recovery we ever had.

   

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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2011, 07:29:19 AM »
Not a good thing for a president to put his name on:

Obamacare: remembered as something bad

Bush Tax Cuts:  remembered as something good

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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2011, 07:38:43 AM »
it's not called obamacare thats what the far right nuts call it

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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2011, 07:42:15 AM »
The clock's ticking on ObamaCare. Judge Vinson, who ruled the whole thing as unconstitutional, said Team Obama has less than a week to file an appeal. Otherwise, the 26 states who sued and won can tell Obama to take his ObamaCare and SHOVE IT.



http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-turn/2011/03/judge_vinson_delivers_another.html

this will take a couple of years to decide

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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2011, 07:43:12 AM »
it's not called obamacare thats what the far right nuts call it

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It should be called "Worst piece of trash ever passed Act" to be more accurate. 

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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2011, 07:52:49 AM »
this will take a couple of years to decide

But, if Obama doesn't appeal it by Thursday, those 26 states can consider it VOID. And, it will stay VOID, until the US Supreme Court makes its decision. The lower court's decision STANDS, until/unless a higher court stays or overturns it.


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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2011, 07:53:48 AM »
this will take a couple of years to decide

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Premiums are already spiking due to this pofs bill.   

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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2011, 07:53:55 AM »
::) 

It should be called "Worst piece of trash ever passed Act" to be more accurate. 

LOL.

But, the idiots on the left believe it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Now that we are aware what is in the legislation and it causes much more harm than good, it is time to correct this mistake.

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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2011, 07:55:02 AM »
it's not called obamacare thats what the far right nuts call it

Liberals call it that, too. It's the nickname for the "Affordable Care Act" (what a joke that title is).

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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2011, 07:57:04 AM »
LOL.

But, the idiots on the left believe it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Now that we are aware what is in the legislation and it causes much more harm than good, it is time to correct this mistake.

The idiots do. The dastardly (but smart) liberals get waivers (now topping 1,000) out the wazoo to make themselves exempt from this garbage.

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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2011, 07:58:54 AM »
Liberals call it that, too. It's the nickname for the "Affordable Care Act" (what a joke that title is).

It should be called "Rape of a Nation Act"

the fact that people, anyone for that matter, still supports obama on any level, is so stagerring to me, it just shows how far we have fallen from past glory.  

Blacken is the textbook example of how this nation has slid into idiocy, stupidity, economic ignorance, vapidity, and just all around illiteracy on all things historical, economic, etc.    

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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2011, 07:59:59 AM »
I can only assume this column was written from Jennifer's alternate universe, where the Heritage Foundation is considered an unbiased source for news, and she peremptorily declares victory on a variety of subjects only to have reality eventually overtake her.

I'd also imagine if it was a Democrat-appointed Judge lashing out at a Bush Administration policy or law in this manner, you would have Jennifer screaming about judicial activism and demanding the Judge be impeached.

However, because it's Obama, the Judge is heroic and the Administration is devious with possibly evil intentions.



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 ;D

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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2011, 08:02:19 AM »
It should be called "Rape of a Nation Act"

the fact that people, anyone for that matter, still supports obama on any level, is so stagerring to me, it just shows how far we have fallen from past glory.  

Blacken is the textbook example of how this nation has slid into idiocy, stupidity, economic ignorance, vapidity, and just all around illiteracy on all things historical, economic, etc.    

why don't you go post more lies  ;D

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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2011, 08:02:45 AM »
I can only assume this column was written from Jennifer's alternate universe, where the Heritage Foundation is considered an unbiased source for news, and she peremptorily declares victory on a variety of subjects only to have reality eventually overtake her.

I'd also imagine if it was a Democrat-appointed Judge lashing out at a Bush Administration policy or law in this manner, you would have Jennifer screaming about judicial activism and demanding the Judge be impeached.

However, because it's Obama, the Judge is heroic and the Administration is devious with possibly evil intentions.



Posted by: mustangs79
 ;D

Or,

These Dems and liberals are something else aren't they? The law only applies to them when it fits them, otherwise they can ignore those laws and judges because of their need for "civil disobedience" or some other such malakey. Well, guess what? Even liberals and Obama-nuts have to obey the law...let's just count the days until Obamacare is put in the "dustbin of history".

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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2011, 08:05:20 AM »
well in less then a week we will find out you were wrong  ;D

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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2011, 08:05:28 AM »
First indication that this legislation is garbage was when Senators received the final bill just hours before the vote. Giving them no time to even make an informed decision.

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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2011, 08:06:27 AM »
Premiums are skyrocketing.  Case closed.   

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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2011, 08:08:46 AM »
well in less then a week we will find out you were wrong  ;D

It doesn't take that long to know how delusional you are.

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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2011, 08:09:40 AM »
well in less then a week we will find out you were wrong  ;D

Hardly!! If a higher court doesn't stay or overturn Vinson's ruling, that ruling STANDS. That's the way our legal system works.

Why do you think Obama is intentionally flaking on lower court's rulings on DOMA, to suck up to the gays?


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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2011, 08:21:07 AM »
we will find out how this plays out in a couple years  ;D

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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2011, 08:35:51 AM »
we will find out how this plays out in a couple years  ;D

In the Supreme Court, it may or it may not!!

That's the point! This is getting fast-tracked, because Obama wants to stall, until ObamaCare is so far entrenched that it's virtually impossible to repeal. That's not going to happen.

Bottom line: Obama HAS to appeal this ruling. If he does not, it stands and at least 26 states will officially get to tell the President to go straight to hell, with his healthcare law. Then, a delayed trial works AGAINST OBAMA.


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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2011, 08:43:07 AM »
so bottom line is what your saying is that this could be settled this week. not going to happen

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Re: Is there a reason not to repeal Obamacare?
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2011, 08:45:00 AM »
Obama promised premiums would drop by 2500.   Instead - they are skyrocketing.   


FAIL.