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Unbelievable! How to bring justice in a case like this?
« on: March 10, 2011, 10:08:18 AM »
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A 11-Year-Old Girl In The 6th Grade Gang Raped By Up To 28 Men In Cleveland



http://abcnews.go.com/US/gang-rape-charges-18-men-sparks-racial-tensions/story?id=13095476

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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2011, 10:20:03 AM »
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The alleged gang rape of an 11-year-old girl by at least 18 boys and young men has sparked shame and outrage in a tiny Texas town, but it has also stirred racial tensions that threaten to split the East Texas hamlet.


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Watch: Did Teen's Alert Stop Child Rape?All of the defendants arrested are African-American and the girl is Hispanic.

The hardscrabble town of Cleveland, which is 45 miles from Houston, has fewer than 8,000 residents and since the saw mill closed the biggest employers are Wal-Mart and a nearby prison. In a town this small, everyone is a neighbor, but that small town ambience is being severely strained.

The rape allegedly occurred last November, and the list of suspects has been growing as arrests keep coming. It's not clear whether more arrests are in the works.

The suspects range in age from 14 to 26, include stars on the high school's basketball team as well as the son of a school board member.

But as the investigation drags on, the shock and indignation has been tinged with an undercurrent of racial tension.

"I feel sorry for the little girl. I feel sorry for everyone involved...the city is in turmoil," Inez Dickerson said.

Dickerson, 68, is the great-grandmother of one of the defendants in the case. Her grandson has not been publicly identified by police because he is a minor.

Dickerson remembers when her great-grandson called to tell her the crime he's accused of committing.

"When I got on the phone, he was crying. He said, 'Granny, I've been accused of something. I'm scared,'" Dickerson said. "He's pretty tore up about it."



"I'm not going to play the race card on this because my grandson and all the rest were very young men and they could have given a second thought on this," Dickerson said.

While Dickerson believes the flaring of racial tensions isn't warranted, others disagree.

Houston community activist Quanell X will host a town hall meeting this evening called "What's the real truth behind the rape allegations?"

"Every adult male that had sex with this child should go to prison, I don't care what the color is. But I do not believe black males are the only ones that had contact with this young child," said Quanell X, the leader of Houston's New Black Panther Party. "It appears to me there's only been the selective prosecution of one community, which is African American."

Quannell X said the rally has been moved from a church to a community center because, "The church received some death threats."


This thread is going to be a long one, methinks.  :-\
Its gonna be a shitstorm if it comes out that it was only black people involved..... Not something the black community needs.

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Re: Unbelievable! How to bring justice in a case like this?
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2011, 10:24:04 AM »
Gang Rape Charges Raise Race Tensions in Texas Town
The village has a history of racial violence. In 1988, an African American man was arrested in Cleveland for allegedly stealing a fountain pen. The man, 30-year-old Kenneth Simpson, was allegedly beaten to death by white police officers while in prison. The officers were acquitted of murder charges and returned to work.

In addition, Cleveland is embroiled in a political scandal where three city council members are facing a recall election following complaints of corruption. All three of those city council members are African American.

More than half of the town is white, with the rest of the residents split between blacks and Hispanics.

Most of the defendants have ties to Precinct 20, the nickname for the predominantly African-American neighborhood in Cleveland. The black neighborhood is sometimes referred to as "the quarters."

Cleveland police began investigating the rape in December of last year after cell phone video showing the alleged sex attack started circulating among students at Cleveland schools, according to court documents. The video shows the girl engaged in sexual acts with several men.

The girl told authorities that the weekend after Thanksgiving she was asked if she wanted to ride around with three of the defendants in the case. The girl, described as a straight A student by those who know her, rode with the young men to a blue house with white trim, according to court documents.

As the night unfolded, numerous men came to the house and later an abandoned trailer to have sex with the girl, according to court documents.

The video surfaced because some of the girl's attackers used their cell phones to take photographs and to film the assaults.

The girl, who has not been identified because she is a minor and the alleged victim of a sex crime, said that she was told by the men that they "would have some girls 'beat her up' or she would not be taken back to her residence" if she didn't have sex with them, according to court documents.
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When a relative of one of the defendants was heard returning to the blue house, the group hurriedly moved to an abandoned trailer. The girl left behind her bra and panties, according to the court documents.

The girl has been removed from the custody of her parents.

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Re: Unbelievable! How to bring justice in a case like this?
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2011, 10:27:35 AM »
 BlackMerica!

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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2011, 10:30:03 AM »
George Bush or Tea parties fault. Honestly though you could here this story and know right away it had to be a bunch of .......

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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2011, 10:33:29 AM »
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A 11-Year-Old Girl In The 6th Grade Gang Raped By Up To 28 Men In Cleveland



http://abcnews.go.com/US/gang-rape-charges-18-men-sparks-racial-tensions/story?id=13095476


This would be one of times where if a lynchmob went to go hang any of these people.  I would simply get in my car and go watch a movie.  Bunch of fucking scum 
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Re: Unbelievable! How to bring justice in a case like this?
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2011, 10:45:55 AM »
eye for an eye would be appropriate in this case.
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Re: Unbelievable! How to bring justice in a case like this?
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2011, 10:52:23 AM »
This is really sad and sick.  :'(

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Re: Unbelievable! How to bring justice in a case like this?
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2011, 11:02:37 AM »
eye for an eye would be appropriate in this case.

are you "up" for the challenge  :-X

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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2011, 11:06:47 AM »
are you "up" for the challenge  :-X

Sick humor, man

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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2011, 11:08:17 AM »

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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2011, 11:33:59 AM »
girl was white?

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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2011, 11:52:13 AM »
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All of the defendants arrested are African-American and the girl is Hispanic

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Re: Unbelievable! How to bring justice in a case like this?
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2011, 12:06:40 PM »
Blacks and latinos commit acts of revenge in amazing ways.  Their great revenge for centuries of abuse from the white, landed gentry is to be a massive burden on society. Mission accomplished.

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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2011, 12:20:00 PM »
kill um all...
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Re: Unbelievable! How to bring justice in a case like this?
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2011, 12:25:28 PM »
Throw them all the in jail---Jamal will take care of them, and if not, then Daniel from the Aryan Brotherhood will.


But, let me get this straight, she was ask if she wanted to ride around with 3 of  them? Something ain't right...

It's like this Girl in Baltimore had claimed she was raped by several men in a skating rink, underneath a stairwell---it apparently came out that it was consensual...nevertheles s she was underage...

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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2011, 12:34:07 PM »
What I don't understand about the black community Is why know one ever steps in and says gee maybe this is wrong. There was 28 of the cocksuckers there. At least a few of them were in there late 20's. What the hell were they doing hanging out with 14 year olds. What a burden to society. Every time you turn on the tv they are killing raping or mugging someone. I can't understand why they can't act like civilized human beings. The ghettos are cursed!

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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2011, 12:42:43 PM »
What I don't understand about the black community Is why know one ever steps in and says gee maybe this is wrong. There was 28 of the cocksuckers there. At least a few of them were in there late 20's. What the hell were they doing hanging out with 14 year olds. What a burden to society. Every time you turn on the tv they are killing raping or mugging someone. I can't understand why they can't act like civilized human beings. The ghettos are cursed!


Bill Cosby did years ago, basically saying most of black people problems are of their own making and he has been chastised ever since by many blacks.

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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2011, 12:45:30 PM »
I work with black people. A lot of the older black woman are very friendly have good morals are god fearing good people. The younger poor generation are lost though. They don't know how to act human.

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« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2011, 12:45:54 PM »
What I don't understand about the black community Is why know one ever steps in and says gee maybe this is wrong. There was 28 of the cocksuckers there. At least a few of them were in there late 20's. What the hell were they doing hanging out with 14 year olds. What a burden to society. Every time you turn on the tv they are killing raping or mugging someone. I can't understand why they can't act like civilized human beings. The ghettos are cursed!
That dude Quarnell said it was wrong and that they need to go to prison...he also said that he doesn't believe that they were the only ones to have contact with them. All we know is from what is written, not the full investigation, or trial.

Charging documents can be written up in a way that makes it look like you did something and were completely guilty...then the newspapers report it, and next then you know, people have made their minds up about you.
This could have been a gang initiation, or just a train run on her---both are completely wrong. What is telling is how the victim was chosen---she willing went with 3 of them who were way older than her, and she is 11 yrs old. Now, in our minds we still think 11 yr old girls play with dolls, but I knew of one who was getting into adult nightclubs. Was this victim fast for her age and hung out with older dudes? Or was she a naive girl who got in over her head? Did she agree to have sex with one or two, and then it was more than she thought (a train)? What really is the full story?

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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2011, 12:49:02 PM »
Valid points there, Parker-son

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« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2011, 12:49:12 PM »
That dude Quarnell said it was wrong and that they need to go to prison...he also said that he doesn't believe that they were the only ones to have contact with them. All we know is from what is written, not the full investigation, or trial.

Charging documents can be written up in a way that makes it look like you did something and were completely guilty...then the newspapers report it, and next then you know, people have made their minds up about you.
This could have been a gang initiation, or just a train run on her---both are completely wrong. What is telling is how the victim was chosen---she willing went with 3 of them who were way older than her, and she is 11 yrs old. Now, in our minds we still think 11 yr old girls play with dolls, but I knew of one who was getting into adult nightclubs. Was this victim fast for her age and hung out with older dudes? Or was she a naive girl who got in over her head? Did she agree to have sex with one or two, and then it was more than she thought (a train)? What really is the full story?

Don't apologize for that bullshit. Who the hell does shit like that. It's bullshit people are getting fed up. Your making an excuse. The girl was how old 11? Even if they didn't do exactly what the report says they should all be put to death for even being slightly involved with something like that.

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« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2011, 01:00:12 PM »
Don't apologize for that bullshit. Who the hell does shit like that. It's bullshit people are getting fed up. Your making an excuse. The girl was how old 11? Even if they didn't do exactly what the report says they should all be put to death for even being slightly involved with something like that.
Nobody is apologizing...you fail to look at things objectively---you wouldn't make too good of a prosecutor or defense attorney. Look at what is presented, look at them as stupid dumfucks who committed a evil act.

Had a case one time, where the dude (black dude from Cape Verde Islands) called police because his daughter was running away. Come to find out, he was raping her for yrs. His 2nd wife left him for Texas, and his first wife went to Portugal. Which left a man, who couldn't related to culture at large so, he started raping his daugther--his only connection. I was disgusted...you see the logic within his thinking, but still disgusted. Rapig your own daugther.

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« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2011, 01:18:35 PM »
More important educated black people need to step up and start holding these people accountible for all the bullshit. Same with the muslims. Muslim extremeists are causing problems in over 40 countries right now. They have commited a crazy amount of terroist attacks compared to any other religion. How are people not suppose to be Islamaphobes? How are people not suppose to be racists when you can't walk down a fucking road on the wrong side of town without getting shot or stabbed? Why dont some of these big name athletes and actors start caring about there own communities. Its messed up.