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Restoring the American Dream
« on: March 10, 2011, 05:36:26 PM »
Be a realist but also be an optimist.

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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2011, 05:39:35 PM »
Be a realist but also be an optimist.

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get rid of the current politicians in both parties, and the people that support them and we are back on top...

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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2011, 05:47:02 PM »
get rid of the current politicians in both parties, and the people that support them and we are back on top...

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Get rid of the FED

Diversify wealth so that no institution is "too big to fail"

Sever ties and back room deal making between the banking institutions and Washington DC

Don't force toxic assets onto loaning institutions ala Fannie Mae

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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2011, 05:48:51 PM »
Good insight brothers...

Seems off topic at first sight but isn't really... our culture which bodybuilding is an inherent part of, although still global and leading the way, needs some polishing at a minimum...

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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2011, 05:49:50 PM »
Get rid of the FED

Diversify wealth so that no institution is "too big to fail"

Sever ties and back room deal making between the banking institutions and Washington DC

Don't force toxic assets onto loaning institutions ala Fannie Mae
Too much intellience.
Obvious things = will never happen.
Political parties use the 2 party system to do whatever the fuck they want, and the taxpayers are just their puppets.
Nothings going to change, theyve got it figured out, they can manipulate the public to do whatever they want, were going to hand the country over to the politicians without them firing a shot

The FED = bullshit, but as long as the bankers buy the politicans, were just gonna be their cash cow. Then they destroy the country's economy when theyre done with us.

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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2011, 05:52:25 PM »
Too much intellience.
Obvious things = will never happen.
Political parties use the 2 party system to do whatever the fuck they want, and the taxpayers are just their puppets.
Nothings going to change, theyve got it figured out, they can manipulate the public to do whatever they want, were going to hand the country over to the politicians without them firing a shot

The FED = bullshit, but as long as the bankers buy the politicans, were just gonna be their cash cow. Then they destroy the country's economy when theyre done with us.

 Exactly.

 All this fucked up shit just ain't gonna change. It'll take an enormous, very very bloody revolution to overthrow the FED and the 2 party system in the US. And nowadays most Americans are creatures of comfort, they aren't very revolutionary at all.

 We are stuck with this shit for a while.

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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2011, 06:01:37 PM »
Exactly.

 All this fucked up shit just ain't gonna change. It'll take an enormous, very very bloody revolution to overthrow the FED and the 2 party system in the US. And nowadays most Americans are creatures of comfort, they aren't very revolutionary at all.

 We are stuck with this shit for a while.

It's true but it was also true 250 years ago. Americans are also extremely competitive, greedy, diversity generators and system optimizers.

As long as this is inherently part of the culture, change will occur.

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Re: Restoring the American Dream
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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2011, 06:08:06 PM »
It's funny, I am a total flag waving wing nut. But one thing conservatives and liberals often agree on is the corrupt, disfunctional monetary policy in this country.

Now that I've leaned a little about whats really going on, its sad to see republicans and democrats arguing over the tiny discretionary budget. The real problems are SO HUGE, and the average joe on the street is not being told about the impending crises by almost any polititian. Things might get really bad in the next year or two. QE2 will be over by June. We either continue on an insane ponzi scheme or face a crushing depression. There may be no way out but doom.

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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2011, 06:10:03 PM »
Make lobbying illegal.

Shut down social security.

Instill 4 year term limits for senators.

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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2011, 06:14:23 PM »
I don`t know what everyone is gaggling on about, I have already won and will continue to win.  I don`t know what else to do.

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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2011, 06:16:09 PM »
I don`t know what everyone is gaggling on about, I have already won and will continue to win.  I don`t know what else to do.

So what you're saying dear friend is that you are winning?

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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2011, 06:19:39 PM »
 You can win as an individual.

 But on the broad level things are fucked.

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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2011, 06:25:30 PM »
You can win as an individual.

 But on the broad level things are fucked.
Is there really any other point?   The only way to truly "win" on a broad level is to cap the population worldwide and let the death rate overtake the birth rate and adjust the economy accordingly, that way resources are not stressed and we can go back to a society where making quality, forever lasting goods from raw materials is the norm.

Cheap plastic garbage from China and those who readily buy and consume it is the gravest danger the United States.  (Coupled with an ignorant population as well)

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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2011, 06:29:31 PM »
Is there really any other point?   The only way to truly "win" on a broad level is to cap the population worldwide and let the death rate overtake the birth rate and adjust the economy accordingly, that way resources are not stressed and we can go back to a society where making quality, forever lasting goods from raw materials is the norm.

Cheap plastic garbage from China and those who readily buy and consume it is the gravest danger the United States.  (Coupled with an ignorant population as well)

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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2011, 06:30:36 PM »
Is there really any other point?   The only way to truly "win" on a broad level is to cap the population worldwide and let the death rate overtake the birth rate and adjust the economy accordingly, that way resources are not stressed and we can go back to a society where making quality, forever lasting goods from raw materials is the norm.

Cheap plastic garbage from China and those who readily buy and consume it is the gravest danger the United States.  (Coupled with an ignorant population as well)

There is a major problem with putting a cap on population.

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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2011, 06:57:03 PM »
It's funny, I am a total flag waving wing nut. But one thing conservatives and liberals often agree on is the corrupt, disfunctional monetary policy in this country.

Now that I've leaned a little about whats really going on, its sad to see republicans and democrats arguing over the tiny discretionary budget. The real problems are SO HUGE, and the average joe on the street is not being told about the impending crises by almost any polititian. Things might get really bad in the next year or two. QE2 will be over by June. We either continue on an insane ponzi scheme or face a crushing depression. There may be no way out but doom.

probably the only getbiger to survive will be bench.  :-\
When I graduate school here in less than a Year, im thinking of heading to Canatia for the immediate future.
Normally, Id be all for sticking around and fighting, but now I have to think about whats best for my family, kids, etc, and the fact that they pay Machinists better in Canada, better bennies, stronger dollar, etc, is hard to argue against.
Not to mention most of my family lives 50 miles from the border in western washington.
Ill be their escape route in the coming meltdown.  ;D

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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2011, 06:59:57 PM »
When I graduate school here in less than a Year, im thinking of heading to Canatia for the immediate future.
Normally, Id be all for sticking around and fighting, but now I have to think about whats best for my family, kids, etc, and the fact that they pay Machinists better in Canada, better bennies, stronger dollar, etc, is hard to argue against.
Not to mention most of my family lives 50 miles from the border in western washington.
Ill be their escape route in the coming meltdown.  ;D
You're going to school to be a machinist?
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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2011, 07:01:46 PM »
You're going to school to be a machinist?
www.samracing.com
Different kind of machinist.
Only place of its kind in the world... we have students from iceland, canada, tropical islands, all kind of shit.

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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2011, 07:15:55 PM »
www.samracing.com
Different kind of machinist.
Only place of its kind in the world... we have students from iceland, canada, tropical islands, all kind of shit.
Ahh, I just assumed you meant a regular machinist.

Good luck!
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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2011, 07:21:06 PM »
Ahh, I just assumed you meant a regular machinist.

Good luck!
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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2011, 07:36:51 PM »
dude shit not that bad now....

Just wait....

Fat sandwiches on the horizon..Like in the great depression. :'(

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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2011, 07:38:35 PM »
Ahh, I just assumed you meant a regular machinist.

Good luck!

Chaos, if I bring you a set of rotors, can you cross drill them (no homo) for me?

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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2011, 09:05:45 AM »
Look beyond the false left/right democrat/repub paradigm.  Vote for Ron Paul for pres. instead of these bought and paid for RINOs like Romney, Huckabee, Palin, Gingrich. 

End the Federal Reserve= the first step in dismantling the major problems in this country.

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Re: Restoring the American Dream
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2011, 09:15:11 AM »
Chaos, if I bring you a set of rotors, can you cross drill them (no homo) for me?
You like having cracked rotors don't you?


I'm waiting for any of y'all to rise up...if not shut the Hell up. I do like you guys, but what is the point in complaining---it's what Americans do best, whine and complain. You don't like the way shits going, get off Getbig and grassroots it up...Or use Getbig as a starting point...then more will join in. Then the politicians eventually will (they have to weigh which side is best, and what is better for them, so they can say that they were a part of it).