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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
« Reply #75 on: November 17, 2011, 02:31:52 PM »
Ron Paul is for real in Iowa. Seriously.
The Washington Post ^ | November 17, 2011 | Chris Cillizza

Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 5:26:31 PM by Kurt Evans

Texas Rep. Ron Paul, long dismissed by the GOP establishment as a fringe candidate, has broadened his electoral appeal and emerged as a major player in the Jan. 3 Iowa caucuses, according to several recent polls and conversations with a handful of longtime Hawkeye political operatives...

In a Bloomberg News survey — conducted by renowned Iowa-based pollster Ann Selzer — Paul was in a four-way statistical tie for first along with businessman Herman Cain, former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich...

And, in a new Iowa State/Gazette/KCRG survey, Paul took 20 percent — behind only Cain at 25 percent...

Paul is using the relatively uncluttered airwaves to tell a story of himself as a consistent champion of fiscal responsibility in a field of candidates that have not always hewed so closely to that mantra.

One ad attacks the inconsistencies of Cain, Romney and Perry on fiscal matters — TARP, economic stimulus — before cutting to Paul; “I’ve been talking about these problems for a long long time...now we’re bankrupt and we have to decide which way we’re going to go,” he says.

And, it’s not just Paul’s television ads that have blanketed the state. Sixty seven percent of those tested in the Bloomberg poll said they had been contacted by the Paul campaign via email, direct mail, telephone or someone coming directly to their door over the last year — the highest percentage for any candidate...

“We have a strong ground game in the state that is reaching out at a faster pace than any other campaign,” argued Trygve Olson, a Paul adviser...

“We are picking up support among social conservatives in Iowa -- particularly ones who believe our country’s fiscal situation is in serious peril,” noted Olson...


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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
« Reply #76 on: November 17, 2011, 03:58:15 PM »
Ron Paul: U.S. In Denial That Country Is "Bankrupt" And "Insolvent"


"They don't want to hear what I have to say because I do challenge the status quo. The statue quo of both parties, and our foreign policy, and the policy of the Federal Reserve which serves a lot of powerful special interests, so maybe there is a concerted effort to make sure these views are circulated too widely," Paul said.

"The country, basically a lot of people still, as well as the politicians here, they're in denial. They don't realize we're technically bankrupt. We're insolvent. We can't pay the bills. The only thing that keeps us going is this illusion that our dollars will last forever and all we have to do is create new money, pay the bills and bail out Europe and everybody else. But that is coming to an end and that's what our financial crisis is telling us," Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) said on FOX News today.



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/16/ron_paul_us_in_denial_that_country_is_technically_bankrupt_and_insolvent.html



It's not just the US. Every Western country and even China are victims of this. Oh well, they'll get their rude awakening soon enough. I'm just curious as to how many people are going to end up getting killed in the ensuing aftermath.

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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
« Reply #77 on: November 17, 2011, 08:59:11 PM »
Ron Paul: GOP will be punished if it capitulates on tax increases
The Hill, Washington, DC ^ | 2011-11-17 | Justin Sink
Posted on November 17, 2011 10:41:18 PM EST by rabscuttle385

Ron Paul says that Republicans will be punished if they do not hold the line against tax increases in the super-committee negotiations and argued that his campaign was well situated to challenge Mitt Romney for the Republican nomination in a radio interview with Sean Hannity Thursday.

"If we capitulate, they will punish the Republican Party," Paul said in response to questions about proposed tax increases. He also said that Republicans needed to be thinking more dramatically about reducing the federal deficit.

"Even if they cut a trillion dollars over the next couple of years from the baseline budget it doesn't mean anything," Paul said.

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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
« Reply #78 on: November 18, 2011, 04:14:41 AM »
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It's doubtful whether anyone opposes President Obama's health care law more than Ron Paul, but the Texas congressman said Wednesday that the sweeping legislation is not socialized medicine — contrary to claims made by his fellow presidential contenders Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain.

Instead, Mr. Paul called the Affordable Care Act “corporate medicine leading toward fascism,” insisting that his definition was much worse.

“It's not socialized medicine, but it's characteristic and creates the same things,” he said in comments before the Congressional Health Care Caucus, which invited him to speak on Capitol Hill.

“You always have shortages on socialized medicine, but you always have shortages when you have government intervention — like we do now.

“You keep the businessman involved, but the businessman makes a lot of profit and he's in bed [with] and gets protection from the government,” said Mr. Paul, one of a handful of doctors who serve in Congress. “That's not a very good alternative. They're both very bad and some of the bad aspects would overlap.”

Mr. Obama had originally hoped for a universal health care system where a public option would compete with private plans on insurance exchanges, but was forced to compromise when his plan appeared politically untenable.

While the final law dramatically expands Medicaid, it still depends on Americans obtaining private insurance plans through state-based exchanges.

Nonetheless, some candidates vociferously opposed to the overhaul — namely, Mrs. Bachmann and Mr. Cain — still say it's socialized medicine.

“In some socialized medicine countries, you can’t get a CAT scan in nine months, let alone an operation,” Mr. Cain said, speaking before the caucus two weeks ago. “We have the best health care system in the world. And ... if we allow this government sponsored socialized medicine approach to prevail, we will no longer have the best health care system in the world.”

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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
« Reply #80 on: November 19, 2011, 04:29:39 PM »

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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
« Reply #81 on: November 19, 2011, 04:56:06 PM »



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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
« Reply #82 on: November 19, 2011, 05:14:11 PM »

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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
« Reply #83 on: November 19, 2011, 06:08:27 PM »
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Wow.

This is the Ron Paul people need to see on a live debate.  Hard to do within a 90 second time frame  :-\.

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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
« Reply #84 on: November 19, 2011, 06:19:53 PM »
Wow.

This is the Ron Paul people need to see on a live debate.  Hard to do within a 90 second time frame  :-\.

There is not one other person running, including Newt, who could have smacked down Kanjorski like Paul did here. 

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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
« Reply #85 on: November 20, 2011, 10:07:42 PM »
This is how I like seeing him. He doesnt allow himself to get pushed around and defends his position really well against the twisted versions of what he's stated in the past.


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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
« Reply #86 on: November 21, 2011, 06:35:54 AM »

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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
« Reply #88 on: November 30, 2011, 03:21:32 PM »

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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
« Reply #89 on: December 01, 2011, 04:27:09 PM »


Great ad.  Newt may sound good at the debates now but you have to look at past behavior to predict future behavior.  I would not be comfortable supporting him.

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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
« Reply #90 on: December 03, 2011, 09:17:34 AM »
Incredible speech.   I'm so glad i donated money to him to get elected.   




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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
« Reply #91 on: December 03, 2011, 09:35:34 AM »

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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
« Reply #92 on: December 03, 2011, 11:32:54 AM »
Good stuff probably the 2 best and honest politicians we have

They need a party of their own they dont belong in either party and that a compliment

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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
« Reply #94 on: December 05, 2011, 02:48:02 PM »
Gingrich leads, but Paul most likely to beat Obama in latest Iowa poll
Daily Caller ^ | 12/5/11 | By C.J. Ciaramella

Posted on Monday, December 05, 2011 4:30:37 PM by Bokababe

...Against Paul, 42 percent of registered voters in Iowa support Obama and 43 percent support Paul. Paul’s popularity among independents could be a crucial advantage. Paul leads Obama 42 percent to 35 percent among independent voters, according to the poll, and he also attracts 15% of Iowa’s Democrats. Not to mention that 16 percent of voters were undecided....


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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
« Reply #95 on: December 06, 2011, 07:20:36 AM »
The Ron Paul Factor (Why he's surging even as others are stagnant or stumbling)
National Review ^ | 12/06/2011 | Robert Costa




Rep. Ron Paul rarely makes news, and his candidacy is frequently ignored by Beltway reporters. But headlines, his aides say, are overrated. In fact, the Texas Republican’s low-key autumn was strategic. As Paul’s competitors stumbled and sparred, he amassed a small fortune for his campaign and built a strong ground operation. And with January fast approaching, his team is ready to surprise the political world and sweep the Iowa caucuses.

“This was a movement when he first started running in 2008,” says Trygve Olson, a senior Paul adviser. “Now it’s turned into a highly professionalized campaign, but the energy from that last run is still there, and at the heart of what’s keeping up his momentum.”

The latest polls back up that confidence. In the influential Des Moines Register poll published over the weekend, Paul placed second. Newt Gingrich, the former House speaker, captured 25 percent of likely Iowa GOP voters, but Paul garnered 18 percent, two points ahead of Mitt Romney, who in 2008 placed second in the caucuses.

If Paul wins Iowa, the upset could upend what many politicos say is a two-man race between Gingrich and Romney. According to state GOP insiders, a Paul victory is a real possibility. In background conversations, many say Paul is much stronger than outside observers believe, with deep and wide support among a frustrated electorate. With Herman Cain’s departure from the race, operatives see Paul potentially collecting a quarter of caucus attendees.

“Ron Paul is definitely for real out here,” says Tim Albrecht, the communications director for Iowa governor Terry Branstad, who has not endorsed any GOP candidate. “He is going to get 18 percent in the caucuses no matter what. If there’s a snowstorm, he’ll probably win, since he has such dedicated, passionate supporters. The question is whether he can move higher than that.”

Paul, for his part, thinks that he can close in on Gingrich, who has seen a recent bump in both state and national polls. “We’re getting pretty close to it being within the margin of error,” Paul told CNN on Sunday. “I think we continue to do what we’re doing. We’ve had the flavors of the month up and down so far this campaign. I’d like to think of myself as the flavor of the decade.”

Indeed, Paul’s consistency, his strategists say, is integral to his strength, especially in Iowa, where GOP voters have shuffled through an array of favorites. “Iowans, after testing Bachmann, after testing Perry, after testing Cain, and now Gingrich, are realizing that Ron Paul, all along, has been their candidate,” says Fritz Wenzel, Paul’s pollster. Unlike many primary fights, “this is becoming a race about principles,” he says, “and Ron Paul has stood up for true conservative principles for decades, not just in the last month.”

But campaign strategy, of course, has also played a major role in sustaining Paul’s poll numbers. The campaign combines a strong online presence, centered on volunteer organization, with prolific fundraising. Perhaps more important, however, is Paul’s “traditional” strategy in Iowa, which combines a heavy candidate presence with constant mailings and outreach.

“He’s run the most traditional caucus campaign of the year,” Albrecht says. “Multiple mailers, multiple ads, and multiple visits. Rick Perry has run ads, but hasn’t really visited. Mitt Romney has taken the shy approach, and Newt Gingrich hasn’t been here as often.”

“We’re following the traditional model because it works,” says Drew Ivers, the campaign’s Iowa chairman. “This is the fifth time I’ve chaired an Iowa campaign, and in this state, you can’t beat grassroots politics. The caucuses are like a business meeting. You don’t just come and vote; you go to participate. You need committed supporters; we have them.”

Steve Grubbs, who recently worked as Herman Cain’s Iowa director, has seen the enthusiasm for Paul up close. “I was driving down Interstate 80 two weeks ago and saw a hitchhiker carrying a Ron Paul sign. I didn’t pick him up, but I’m sure a Paul supporter gave him a ride,” he says. “I spot them everywhere, wearing their T-shirts and carrying signs.”

You’ll also find thousands of Ron Paul backers on the web — on message boards and on social-networking sites — talking about Paul and his criticism of U.S. foreign policy and the Federal Reserve. As Paul’s team invests in the ground game, it is taking care to intertwine its above-ground legwork with that web world. And it’s paying off, his advisers say, not only through donations, but in building a cohesive network of voters. An early example of its power came in August, when Paul nearly won the Ames straw poll, finishing a close second to Michele Bachmann.

“Ron Paul’s Internet operation is to Republicans in 2012 what Barack Obama’s Internet operation was to Democrats in 2007 and 2008,” Olson says. “It’s very grassroots and national, with thousands of very active supporters who spread the message in every state. That energy is the undercurrent to what’s happening on the ground, where people are going person to person.”

Still, even with the top-tier showing in Iowa polls and recognition by Iowa operatives of their on-the-ground prowess, Paul’s advisers aren’t taking anything for granted. In coming weeks, “Ron Paul is going to be living part-time in Iowa,” says Dimitri Kesari, Paul’s deputy campaign manager. The entire focus will be on coordinating turnout and stoking enthusiasm. Over 500 college students, for example, will move to Iowa over the holidays to participate in an initiative called “Christmas Vacation with Ron Paul.”

“He’s a different kind of candidate,” Kesari acknowledges, a “highly organized outsider.” But in January, he could also be a winner. And Iowans, at least, wouldn’t be surprised.

— Robert Costa is a political reporter for National Review.



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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
« Reply #96 on: December 08, 2011, 08:38:18 PM »
Ron Paul Has A Major Secret Weapon To Win The Republican Race
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While the rest of us have been distracted by the boom-and-bust campaigns of 2012, oft-forgotten presidential candidate Ron Paul has been quietly picking up steam, and putting together formidable campaign operation that is now poised to shakeup the Republican race.
Sure, Paul may still be a longshot to win the nomination. But he has one thing going for him that his rivals do not: The love of America's youth.
At 76, Paul may be the oldest candidate in the race, but he is the only one who consistently appeals to young voters, an elusive but energetic voting bloc that likes Paul's unorthodox, small-government message.
The latest polls bear out this claim. In a new CNN/Time poll of GOP voters in Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina, Paul comes in third place in all three states. But his polling numbers jump by nearly half among voters under 50, while support for the frontrunners, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich, stays stagnant, or even drops slightly.
Paul's support is even stronger among the youngest voters — the latest Granite State poll found Paul in first among New Hampshire primary voters under 35, with 32%, and whopping 56% of those voters said they had a favorable view of Paul.
The Paul campaign has effectively harnessed this support, building up a massive ground operation of energetic young voters who are eager to spread Paul's unorthodox gospel. Since September, the campaign's Youth for Ron Paul initiative has amassed more than 15,000 volunteers in 307 chapters nationwide.

The campaign is kicking its youth outreach into high gear for a final push before voting starts. Paul will host two big campus rallies in Iowa this week, and later this month, 500 college kids will descend on Iowa and New Hampshire to canvass for Paul during their Christmas vacations.

(To qualify to "Spend Christmas Vacation With Ron Paul," applicants had to fill out an online questionnaire agreeing or disagreeing with statements like "after a complete audit of the Federal Reserve, the Fed should be abolished," and "cannabis should be legalized for recreational use.")

To be sure, young voters are not as dependable as older ones, and it is not guaranteed that Paul's young followers will actually show up on election day. But if these young converts do turn out, especially in Iowa, they could change the game for the Republican race.

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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
« Reply #97 on: December 12, 2011, 08:17:44 PM »
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Ron Paul is striking chords with Iowa GOP voters
Miami Herald ^ | Monday, 12.12.11 | DAVID LIGHTMAN
Posted on December 12, 2011 8:06:42 PM EST by americanophile

WAVERLY, Iowa -- Iowa Republican voters are taking Ron Paul very seriously.

So seriously, in fact, that few would be surprised if he finished a strong second - or even won - the Jan. 3 Iowa caucuses.

The 76-year-old Texas congressman's potential is evident in recent statewide polls that show him in or near second place, trailing former House of Representatives Speaker Newt Gingrich and in a virtual tie with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

Paul's strength is also apparent anecdotally - he draws big, diverse crowds, like one recently in this small northeastern Iowa town.

People in the audience at the community library last week shoehorned themselves into the meeting room, listening intently to the libertarian Republican presidential candidate, as have people in meeting halls and college auditoriums all over the state.

They were sympathetic to his no-frills message of dramatically smaller government and a scaled-back foreign policy - a message he's long preached, but one that now has wide mainstream appeal. And they appreciate how he's engaging Gingrich, accusing the front-runner of "serial hypocrisy."

Paul draws no big cheers; his audiences are serious and polite. They applauded in Waverly when he told them that the U.S. government can't possibly continue spending at its current pace because the world economy is on the brink of chaos.

"The solution is that we have to decide what we want from our government," Paul said.

Paul is attracting three kinds of Iowa voters.

There's his cadre of longtime supporters, who helped him finish fifth with 10 percent in Iowa in 2008. And this year two other types of voters have joined the Paul army: Young people, and those simply fed up with the government and eager for drastic change.

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Re: Rand Paul & Ron Paul Appreciation Thread
« Reply #99 on: December 13, 2011, 12:43:44 PM »
Ron Paul can surge against Newt Romney
By Brent Budowsky - 12/13/11 02:34 PM ET


http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/199119-ron-paul-can-surge-against-newt-romney



 
There is one issue that can enable Ron Paul to break above his current threshold with great appeal to a wider electorate and make a frontal challenge to the candidates Michele Bachmann (I always give fair credit) brilliantly labeled Newt Romney. This issue is this:

Crony capitalism.

Dr. Paul has spoken eloquently and brilliantly about the corruptions in the economy from those with the power to use political weapons to seek unfair economic advantage. Dr. Paul and I will not fundamentally agree on many aspects of policy, but we do agree on the need to lessen the influence of crony capitalists.



Newt Romney offers different sides of the crony-capitalist coin. One makes a fortune of wealth from Freddie Mac; the other makes a fortune of wealth from insider deals that lead to mass layoffs and in several cases bankruptcies. When Newt attacks Romney, and Romney attacks Newt, they are basically right about each other.

I have similarly criticized the mother of all crony capitalists in this campaign, Rick Perry, whose pay-for-play politics in Texas are legendary.

For Dr. Paul, making crony capitalism itself a major issue would be powerful because it unites a majority of Republican voters against the what we call Newt Romney.

I have also called for some form of alliance on matters of common interest between Ron Paul and Occupy Wall Street.

I am currently in the process of thinking through some new ideas and strategies against crony capitalism for future Pundits Blogs and an upcoming column in the fairly near future.

I would welcome any links and comments from Ron Paul supporters about quotes from him, and ideas he may have, which I will factor into ideas and columns. In advance I thank those of you who help.

As we go into Iowa, Ron Paul has a chance to win the caucus, and he has a chance to come in a strong second.

In Iowa and beyond, Ron Paul has an opening to be the one true champion of opposing crony capitalism, which could be the next stage in the Ron Paul surge and his frontal assault against Newt Romney.