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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2011, 07:18:58 PM »
OK, who do you think was better than him, JOJ? And, yes, in modern bodybuilding were guys are 275 lbs having a small waist is a huge, huge plus. Isn't that the biggest complaint with bodybuilding today? The big guts? Isn't the wide waist the reason Jay is called the fridge. And where are you reading that guys are orgasming over Wolf. Certainly not here. I only read majority criticism. Compared to Jay, Heath, Kai, Branch and Dex all at their best I would pick Wolf at his best.
This isnt just about the Australian Pro. Some dick mod changed the title. Its about Wolf in general, and the comments I have seen over his course of competition from posters here.

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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2011, 10:17:11 PM »
wolf look awesome, but he hasnt gained any size in the last 4 years, which is really sad for a guy who has been mega dosing roids and blasting the hell out of GH and insulin on top of that continuously for all those years.  chop it up to a gh15esque work ethic in the gym. "training doesnt matter, only drugs do".  ::) and take wolf as your example as to how much that is bullshit.  sincehe hasnt grow, he has lust his luster. but hes still amazing. with a little extr size, and a ittle more conditioning he is a very legit contender for the O.

Dennis is maxed out. He's probbably not gonna grow much anymore, he can only refine what he has.

You're only gonna get so big, then its gonna stop. Look at victor he's been the same size for a good 6 or 7 years, Jay hasnt gotten any bigger since 2001, Toney Freeman has been maxed out for years, Dexters been the same size for 10 years. I could go on and on. Dennis James was smaller his last 2 years as a pro as he'd ever been.

Phil is close to maxing out and so is Kai greene. And once they max out it doesnt matter how many drugs they take, how much weight they lift or food they eat theyre not gonna put on any muscle.

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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2011, 04:29:06 AM »
This isnt just about the Australian Pro. Some dick mod changed the title. Its about Wolf in general, and the comments I have seen over his course of competition from posters here.

OK, but didn't Wolf's win prompt your post? I want to ask guys like you and Parker if not Wolf then who? Who is the one to watch? Right now it's Heath, Branch, Victor and Kai. With the exception of Victor I can't see anyone else. I'm not a Wolf nut hugger, no one really stands out for me, but we have guys here questioning him even being a pro. Nit picking him to death when in reality he is top of the top in the bodybuilding world and if he nails it he can be Mr. O even without calves like Dex and to a lesser extent Ronnie.   

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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2011, 05:17:42 AM »
OK, but didn't Wolf's win prompt your post? I want to ask guys like you and Parker if not Wolf then who? Who is the one to watch? Right now it's Heath, Branch, Victor and Kai. With the exception of Victor I can't see anyone else. I'm not a Wolf nut hugger, no one really stands out for me, but we have guys here questioning him even being a pro. Nit picking him to death when in reality he is top of the top in the bodybuilding world and if he nails it he can be Mr. O even without calves like Dex and to a lesser extent Ronnie.   
The problem with Wolf is the same with Vic, "IF", they are both and cold, and Vic has been more consistent over his career, Wolf and Vic both almost tie in on or off mode since Wolf turned Pro.

Wolf, still has that glaring weakness of a missing lower back while he hasn't improved, guys like Pakulski have been steadily improving. I see Ben as a dark horse and that Greek guy as a new version of Paco---but more detailed and ripped. As Wolf sits there and stagnants, others are steadily climbing. I see Alvisi and Curry coming up as well. My prediction is that Wolf will not live up to his namesake, unless "given" the title,  but will instead be like a country dog on the front porch...only snapping at the flys...


There is a certain window of time, and I think Dex, Vic, and JOJ's has past, and soon, if Wolf doesn't take advantage, it will pass for him.

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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2011, 02:15:44 PM »
Dennis is maxed out. He's probbably not gonna grow much anymore, he can only refine what he has.

You're only gonna get so big, then its gonna stop. Look at victor he's been the same size for a good 6 or 7 years, Jay hasnt gotten any bigger since 2001, Toney Freeman has been maxed out for years, Dexters been the same size for 10 years. I could go on and on. Dennis James was smaller his last 2 years as a pro as he'd ever been.

Phil is close to maxing out and so is Kai greene. And once they max out it doesnt matter how many drugs they take, how much weight they lift or food they eat theyre not gonna put on any muscle.

people said arnold was maxed out. people msaid haney was maxed out. people said dorian was maxed out. people said ronnie was maxed out.

even if ronnie was truly maxed out, wolf still isnt as big as ronnie so he cans till grow. but ill guarantee you that a guy will come along and be bigger than ronnie.  and wolf can get that big too.

what true, is that they were all maxed out on drugs. and once your maxed out on drugs, like just about every pro, the only way to grow is to lift bigger weights (and of course eat more food). these guys always lift the same, and thus they never grow.

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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2011, 02:49:00 PM »
I think people like him so much because his shoulders are wider than everyones and his waist is smaller than everyones... he doesn't look blocky like most of the top pro's right now.

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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2011, 02:51:17 PM »
I think people like him so much because his shoulders are wider than everyones and his waist is smaller than everyones... he doesn't look blocky like most of the top pro's right now.

ummm... that's a good thing...

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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2011, 02:52:31 PM »
ummm... that's a good thing...
You like your men wide wide shoulders and narrow waists, stud?
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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #33 on: March 13, 2011, 02:54:55 PM »
ummm... that's a good thing...

The guy started this thread saying he didn't get why people like Wolf so much. I was pointing out the main reasons why people think he should be winning shows.

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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #34 on: March 13, 2011, 02:55:50 PM »
You like your men wide wide shoulders and narrow waists, stud?

only in comparison to the blocky look...

I've been away a long time, chaos... apparently you have to put the words "no homo" after your post to indicate you are not sexually attracted to what you are posting about...

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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2011, 02:57:35 PM »
people said arnold was maxed out. people msaid haney was maxed out. people said dorian was maxed out. people said ronnie was maxed out.

even if ronnie was truly maxed out, wolf still isnt as big as ronnie so he cans till grow. but ill guarantee you that a guy will come along and be bigger than ronnie.  and wolf can get that big too.

what true, is that they were all maxed out on drugs. and once your maxed out on drugs, like just about every pro, the only way to grow is to lift bigger weights (and of course eat more food). these guys always lift the same, and thus they never grow.

Do you think they just get lazier with their training when they turn pro?

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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2011, 02:59:37 PM »
only in comparison to the blocky look...

I've been away a long time, chaos... apparently you have to put the words "no homo" after your post to indicate you are not sexually attracted to what you are posting about...

thanks for the warning, bro...






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You have been away for awhile.........the "no homo" is actually code for homo desires...I would recommend not using it unless you are in search of the penile tissue.

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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #37 on: March 13, 2011, 03:16:23 PM »
people said arnold was maxed out. people msaid haney was maxed out. people said dorian was maxed out. people said ronnie was maxed out.

even if ronnie was truly maxed out, wolf still isnt as big as ronnie so he cans till grow. but ill guarantee you that a guy will come along and be bigger than ronnie.  and wolf can get that big too.

what true, is that they were all maxed out on drugs. and once your maxed out on drugs, like just about every pro, the only way to grow is to lift bigger weights (and of course eat more food). these guys always lift the same, and thus they never grow.

Have u seen Ronnie train before? So your saying his 800 lbs squats could have gotten heavier, or the massive meals that he ate could have gotten bigger? LOL

Or Dorian who lifted so heavy he tore half of the muscles in his body ( like ronnie and branch ) could have lifted heavier LOL!

And comparing Dennis to Ronnie is ascinine. Ronnie maxed HIS physique which obviously has the ability to put on more size then ronnies.

Look at shawn ray he might have gained 5lbs in 15 years as a pro. Why you ask? Because thats as big as he was gonna get. He was maxed out.

Your lifting heavier and eating more theory is flawed. I hope you know that.

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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #38 on: March 13, 2011, 03:21:43 PM »
Have u seen Ronnie train before? So your saying his 800 lbs squats could have gotten heavier, or the massive meals that he ate could have gotten bigger? LOL

ronnie is a good example. a guy who continued to lift heavier and heavier, and thus continued to grow. could he have lifted even heavier? i guess so. he could have done 800lb squats for 10 reps, instead of 2. and if he did that then he would have had even bigger legs.

Or Dorian who lifted so heavy he tore half of the muscles in his body ( like ronnie and branch ) could have lifted heavier LOL!

forian is another good example. he kept lifting heavier, and so he kept on growing.

And comparing Dennis to Ronnie is ascinine. Ronnie maxed HIS physique which obviously has the ability to put on more size then ronnies.

Look at shawn ray he might have gained 5lbs in 15 years as a pro. Why you ask? Because thats as big as he was gonna get. He was maxed out.
shawn was maxed out for the amount of drugs, weights, and food he was eating. had he lifted heavier or taken more drugs he could have gotten bigger. actually, he was probably already maxed out on drugs, so the ONLY was he could have gotten bigger was to lift heavier

Your lifting heavier and eating more theory is flawed. I hope you know that.

let me ask you this.  lets say jay cutler has been using  400lbs for his bench press. doing 8-15 set per workout, abotu 10 reps each.  now lets say he focusus on strength for a while, and next year he works out all year with 500lbs pounds on bench. still doing 8-15 sets, 10 reps each.  you think his chest wont be bigger?  it has to be.

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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2011, 03:28:40 PM »
let me ask you this.  lets say jay cutler has been using  400lbs for his bench press. doing 8-15 set per workout, abotu 10 reps each.  now lets say he focusus on strength for a while, and next year he works out all year with 500lbs pounds on bench. still doing 8-15 sets, 10 reps each.  you think his chest wont be bigger?  it has to be.

Lets think about this. Jay has been lifting weights since he was about 13. Hes in his late 30's now.

Jay has an extremely strong bench. Do you honestly think he can get any stronger without tearing his pec right off of the bone? And training for size and strength are totally different avenues.

Jay cant get any stronger.

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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2011, 03:32:34 PM »
Jay cant get any stronger.

Sure he could, he would have to change training styles. But I agree with what you're trying to explain to tdongz.
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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2011, 03:35:33 PM »
He was the only person anyone had heard of in that line-up
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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #42 on: March 13, 2011, 03:49:43 PM »
Sure he could, he would have to change training styles. But I agree with what you're trying to explain to tdongz.

Im sure Jay can bench a pretty good amount of weight.

And yes I agree he could get stronger. But he most likely cant get THAT much stronger. Im sure in his 20 plus years of training he's gotten pretty damn strong. Because ive seen Jay bench 405 for reps with ease and that was in a pretty old video. So the dude has built up strength.

But the fact that Taylor doesnt understand is that strength always equal size.


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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #43 on: March 13, 2011, 03:56:35 PM »
Whos build would you rather have of the competitors of Arnold Classic, Australian Pro etc?


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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #44 on: March 13, 2011, 04:51:21 PM »
Have u seen Ronnie train before? So your saying his 800 lbs squats could have gotten heavier, or the massive meals that he ate could have gotten bigger? LOL

Or Dorian who lifted so heavy he tore half of the muscles in his body ( like ronnie and branch ) could have lifted heavier LOL!

And comparing Dennis to Ronnie is ascinine. Ronnie maxed HIS physique which obviously has the ability to put on more size then ronnies.

Look at shawn ray he might have gained 5lbs in 15 years as a pro. Why you ask? Because thats as big as he was gonna get. He was maxed out.

Your lifting heavier and eating more theory is flawed. I hope you know that.

He doesn't but he will.

Just like a person can max out on size they can also max out of strength. Of course there is a correlation (not a causation) between size and strength. Those that say the reason someone isn't getting any bigger (adding muscle size) is because they are not stronger fail to realize that one of the reasons they have maxed out on size is because they have maxed out in strength. A person can only get so big and so strong.
 

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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #45 on: March 13, 2011, 04:54:02 PM »
Whos build would you rather have of the competitors of Arnold Classic, Australian Pro etc?



That's why I don't understand when Parker says that Wolf has a "nonexistent" lower back. I mean, seriously. People here as so jaded.

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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #46 on: March 13, 2011, 04:57:02 PM »
Im sure Jay can bench a pretty good amount of weight.

And yes I agree he could get stronger. But he most likely cant get THAT much stronger. Im sure in his 20 plus years of training he's gotten pretty damn strong. Because ive seen Jay bench 405 for reps with ease and that was in a pretty old video. So the dude has built up strength.

But the fact that Taylor doesnt understand is that strength always equal size.



Exactly. Being able to move more weight does not necessarily mean you are getting stronger and adding muscle mass. In an experiment on older people they found that they were able to lift more weight after the end of the experiment but there was no increase in muscle mass.

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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #47 on: March 13, 2011, 05:43:45 PM »
let me ask you this.  lets say jay cutler has been using  400lbs for his bench press. doing 8-15 set per workout, abotu 10 reps each.  now lets say he focusus on strength for a while, and next year he works out all year with 500lbs pounds on bench. still doing 8-15 sets, 10 reps each.  you think his chest wont be bigger?  it has to be.




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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #48 on: March 13, 2011, 05:51:21 PM »



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Re: Australian Pro - Anyone else not impressed by Wolfe?
« Reply #49 on: March 13, 2011, 05:57:58 PM »
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