Author Topic: Need Advices... Gh15? Getbiggers? (Read 7634 times)

The_Leafy_Bug · « **on:** March 14, 2011, 08:06:14 PM »

Here i am after a long lay over from hardcore bodybuilding. I was unemployed for about 3 months in the winter and now trying to get back on my feet. This is probably part of the reason for that lack in quality in my gains

. This sadly is the biggest and leanest I've been ever. Here i am at about 208-210. I don't want to get any heavier then this this off season and i want to improve on the quality of it before i start dieting. I am about 23 and 26 weeks out (doing 2 shows). I am having a bit of a problem. I notice that my chest is pretty thick from the side but skimpy from the front especially during FDB and Front lat spreads. Im about to drop doing heavy smith inclines and switch to flat heavy DB as my base exercise.

It looks like what i need to work on most are the side of my arms and pecs... My problem with pecs is my delts overpower them and are taking the bulk of the load when i train chest. I need advices. My arms have made great gains in size but still look small too.

Siderbar: The magical lamp had to go into retirement so getbig gets the raw deal. Yes... i know i look like fat shit.

Army of One · « **Reply #1 on:** March 14, 2011, 08:11:02 PM »

Post up the first pic you ever posted here compared to the latest, youve made some impressive gains.

The_Leafy_Bug · « **Reply #2 on:** March 14, 2011, 08:14:54 PM »

Quote from: Army of One on March 14, 2011, 08:11:02 PM

Post up the first pic you ever posted here compared to the latest, youve made some impressive gains.

The_Leafy_Bug · « **Reply #3 on:** March 14, 2011, 08:16:56 PM »

kevinf · « **Reply #4 on:** March 14, 2011, 08:35:19 PM »

lookin sharp for offseason dude,
what do your arms measure in contest shape? and how much size do they lose while dieting

tommywishbone · « **Reply #5 on:** March 14, 2011, 08:38:22 PM »

I miss the blue dust ruffle.

PS. Your delts do not "overpower" your chest- not even close. Keep doing exactly what you've been doing. Change nothing.

PS II. If you head out to California give me a call/text/email. I'll buy you lunch.

tbombz · « **Reply #6 on:** March 14, 2011, 08:42:46 PM »

Quote from: The_Leafy_Bug on March 14, 2011, 08:06:14 PM

Here i am after a long lay over from hardcore bodybuilding. I was unemployed for about 3 months in the winter and now trying to get back on my feet. This is probably part of the reason for that lack in quality in my gains . This sadly is the biggest and leanest I've been ever. Here i am at about 208-210. I don't want to get any heavier then this this off season and i want to improve on the quality of it before i start dieting. I am about 23 and 26 weeks out (doing 2 shows). I am having a bit of a problem. I notice that my chest is pretty thick from the side but skimpy from the front especially during FDB and Front lat spreads. Im about to drop doing heavy smith inclines and switch to flat heavy DB as my base exercise.

It looks like what i need to work on most are the side of my arms and pecs... My problem with pecs is my delts overpower them and are taking the bulk of the load when i train chest. I need advices. My arms have made great gains in size but still look small too.

Siderbar: The magical lamp had to go into retirement so getbig gets the raw deal. Yes... i know i look like fat shit.

you need to learn how to workout your chest with minimal delt involvement. study some anatomy charts, watch tons of videos of lean bodybuilders training chest and pay attention to how the chest contracts while the delts remain relatively still. keep your shoulder blades pinched, back slightly arched, pull your arms forward by squeezing your chest.

once you learn proper form focus on one exercise only. specialization breeds effeciency. flat bench is king, maybe a slight decline to hel;p take the shoulders out of it. focus on getting stronger every week. if your not, then you either did too much or too little. staying away from failure while keeping the weights heavy is a good way to avoid over training and keep gains progressing.

Disgusted · « **Reply #7 on:** March 14, 2011, 08:46:01 PM »

You do not need to "work" on any specific body part. Genetics will determine what you body ends up looking like. You just need to get bigger, bottom line. Side note, front latspread your hands go on the side of your obliques.

The_Leafy_Bug · « **Reply #8 on:** March 14, 2011, 08:46:55 PM »

Quote from: scarletknightNJ91 on March 14, 2011, 08:35:19 PM

lookin sharp for offseason dude,
what do your arms measure in contest shape? and how much size do they lose while dieting

I have no clue.. They usually don't lose any size. Right now they are 18+ -18.5 consistently when i measure them but i don't feel they look that way. For the longest time they were stuck in the 17's but i got around it eventually. I have never gotten a chance to measure them pumped but id give a half inch max. They are probably 18.5-19 pumped.

I see stuff like this and think holy hell... 23!?!? How do you look like this at 23. Very unmotivational for an individual like myself. Maybe people are right... bodybuilders are getting worse and worse these days.

The_Leafy_Bug · « **Reply #9 on:** March 14, 2011, 08:48:31 PM »

Quote from: Disgusted on March 14, 2011, 08:46:01 PM

You do not need to "work" on any specific body part. Genetics will determine what you body ends up looking like. You just need to get bigger, bottom line. Side note, front latspread your hands go on the side of your obliques.

I try to bring my elbows far forward as possible. Maybe i just need to push my waist in harder... ill try it.

TrueGrit · « **Reply #10 on:** March 14, 2011, 08:53:26 PM »

Learning all the time what the judges want to see - the thong is disappearing further into the crack over time!

Butt seriously Leafy...you have an awesome physique that is very well balanced.

The_Leafy_Bug · « **Reply #11 on:** March 14, 2011, 08:57:59 PM »

Quote from: TrueGrit on March 14, 2011, 08:53:26 PM

Learning all the time what the judges want to see - the thong is disappearing further into the crack over time!

Butt seriously Leafy...you have an awesome physique that is very well balanced.

I heard one judge said he usually knocks people down a place when he sees that kind of stuff but because i was the only one that year with glute striations that he let it slide.... i don't know what the hell they want anymore. I actually though that was pretty conservative considering ive seen trunks much smaller then that on other competitors.

Matt C · « **Reply #12 on:** March 14, 2011, 08:59:54 PM »

Definitely the next Dennis Wolf!

Army of One · « **Reply #13 on:** March 14, 2011, 09:00:50 PM »

Quote from: tommywishbone on March 14, 2011, 08:38:22 PM

PS II. If you head out to California give me a call/text/email. I'll buy you lunch.

Thats a pickup if I ever saw one.

Disgusted · « **Reply #14 on:** March 14, 2011, 09:01:45 PM »

Quote from: The_Leafy_Bug on March 14, 2011, 08:48:31 PM

I try to bring my elbows far forward as possible. Maybe i just need to push my waist in harder... ill try it.

NO!! Bringing them forward has zero effect on lat extension. Try this, stand relaxed hands to side, now flex your lats out as far as possible now bend you elbows without bring them forward and put your hands on your obliques.

The_Leafy_Bug · « **Reply #15 on:** March 14, 2011, 09:12:23 PM »

Quote from: tommywishbone on March 14, 2011, 08:38:22 PM

I miss the blue dust ruffle.

PS. Your delts do not "overpower" your chest- not even close. Keep doing exactly what you've been doing. Change nothing.

PS II. If you head out to California give me a call/text/email. I'll buy you lunch.

Will do! The blue dust ruffle has been put in premature retirement along with the magic lamp $:-\$

tommywishbone · « **Reply #16 on:** March 14, 2011, 09:24:11 PM »

"... They are probably 18.5-19 pumped...".

So at a bodywieght of 208-210 you have 18.5 - 19 inch arms and you want our advice?

Young man, go to your room. You are grounded.

flexingtonsteele · « **Reply #17 on:** March 14, 2011, 09:41:20 PM »

Just keep on doing what your doing.

Dont let yourself put on anymore fat and keep gaining lean quality muscle.

And get your ass a job

stuntmovie · « **Reply #18 on:** March 14, 2011, 10:21:19 PM »

Tommy Wishbone said it best and others on this Board did likewise.

I hope you 'listened'.

hazbin · « **Reply #19 on:** March 15, 2011, 12:00:25 AM »

Quote from: The_Leafy_Bug on March 14, 2011, 08:46:55 PM

I have no clue.. They usually don't lose any size. Right now they are 18+ -18.5 consistently when i measure them but i don't feel they look that way. For the longest time they were stuck in the 17's but i got around it eventually. I have never gotten a chance to measure them pumped but id give a half inch max. They are probably 18.5-19 pumped.

I see stuff like this and think holy hell... 23!?!? How do you look like this at 23. Very unmotivational for an individual like myself. Maybe people are right... bodybuilders are getting worse and worse these days.

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i'm the same age as Kevin. i was 24 getting ready for the Canadian nationals when he and Paul Demayo were battling it out for the americans. they were unreal even though we were all the same height and weight.

Firemuscle · « **Reply #20 on:** March 15, 2011, 12:03:55 AM »

I think he looked better when he was thin and ripped.

Old pics look better than the new ones.

KevinP85 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 15, 2011, 12:31:54 AM »

My advice is start upping the dosage, add gh if haven't already

And.... Start learning how to pose. You are not making the most out of your physique "presenting," it like that.

cephissus · « **Reply #22 on:** March 15, 2011, 12:33:41 AM »

dude can you give ME some advice on trap development?!

Meso_z · « **Reply #23 on:** March 15, 2011, 01:25:08 AM »

Quote from: Matt C on March 14, 2011, 08:59:54 PM

Definitely the next Dennis Wolf!

Now, is this good or bad?

Meso_z · « **Reply #24 on:** March 15, 2011, 01:27:41 AM »

Quote from: hazbin on March 15, 2011, 12:00:25 AM

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i'm the same age as Kevin. i was 24 getting ready for the Canadian nationals when he and Paul Demayo were battling it out for the americans. they were unreal even though we were all the same height and weight.

Any idea what those guys took to look that different from the other guys at their age/height?