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The Libertarian's GOP Wall Of Shame.
« on: March 15, 2011, 12:12:07 AM »

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Re: The Libertarian's GOP Wall Of Shame.
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2011, 05:25:22 AM »
How to handle Ronald Reagan?
posted by Staff on Aug 23, 2010

August 23, 2010

Dear Friend of Liberty,

As the 2010 election approaches, a lot of Republican politicians are trying to posture as government-cutters, and they often hold up Ronald Reagan as an example.

But although Reagan often talked about supporting smaller government, most Libertarians know that in practice he did exactly the opposite. For example:

    * Reagan boosted import tariffs and trade restrictions.
    * Reagan cut marginal income tax rates, but he also raised Social Security taxes.
    * Reagan increased farm subsidies.
    * Reagan sent the federal debt through the roof.
    * Federal spending under Reagan grew from $678 billion to $1.14 trillion.
    * Reagan set the record for the highest average spending as a percent of GDP over his administration. (Obama may beat him.)

Many people are complaining right now about unemployment under Barack Obama. In the first 18 months of Obama's presidency, unemployment has increased from 7.7 percent to 9.5 percent.

Did you know that during the first 18 months of Reagan's presidency, unemployment increased from 7.5 percent to 9.8 percent? That's even worse, but I don't hear a lot of Republicans mentioning it.

Many Republican politicians, operatives and talk show hosts like to talk positively about Reagan and try to portray him as delivering smaller government. They don't say that about George W. Bush. I presume that's to try and convince voters that Bush was bad in some ways, and we should all try to be more like Reagan.

Some polls show Reagan is reasonably well-respected these days. I think the positive reactions are often based on misconceptions, and that brings up an interesting point: how should Libertarians deal with the Ronald Reagan myth?

To address that question, we put up a new poll today. Please share your opinion.

Sincerely,

Wes Benedict
Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee
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Re: The Libertarian's GOP Wall Of Shame.
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2011, 05:33:57 AM »
Results speak for themselves. 


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Re: The Libertarian's GOP Wall Of Shame.
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2011, 06:23:04 AM »
Reagan was a socialist.

MAybe thats why everybody like him so much ;)

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Re: The Libertarian's GOP Wall Of Shame.
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2011, 09:54:35 PM »
How to handle Ronald Reagan?
posted by Staff on Aug 23, 2010

August 23, 2010

Dear Friend of Liberty,

As the 2010 election approaches, a lot of Republican politicians are trying to posture as government-cutters, and they often hold up Ronald Reagan as an example.

But although Reagan often talked about supporting smaller government, most Libertarians know that in practice he did exactly the opposite. For example:

    * Reagan boosted import tariffs and trade restrictions.
    * Reagan cut marginal income tax rates, but he also raised Social Security taxes.
    * Reagan increased farm subsidies.
    * Reagan sent the federal debt through the roof.
    * Federal spending under Reagan grew from $678 billion to $1.14 trillion.
    * Reagan set the record for the highest average spending as a percent of GDP over his administration. (Obama may beat him.)

Many people are complaining right now about unemployment under Barack Obama. In the first 18 months of Obama's presidency, unemployment has increased from 7.7 percent to 9.5 percent.

Did you know that during the first 18 months of Reagan's presidency, unemployment increased from 7.5 percent to 9.8 percent? That's even worse, but I don't hear a lot of Republicans mentioning it.

Many Republican politicians, operatives and talk show hosts like to talk positively about Reagan and try to portray him as delivering smaller government. They don't say that about George W. Bush. I presume that's to try and convince voters that Bush was bad in some ways, and we should all try to be more like Reagan.

Some polls show Reagan is reasonably well-respected these days. I think the positive reactions are often based on misconceptions, and that brings up an interesting point: how should Libertarians deal with the Ronald Reagan myth?

To address that question, we put up a new poll today. Please share your opinion.

Sincerely,

Wes Benedicts
Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee

In a nutshell, this is why losertarians never win elections. And about unemployment going up more under Reagan more than it went up under Obama : Reagan had to kill inflation by jacking up interest rates. It is one of the  biggest reasons why Reagan is the best president in the 20th century. Under Obama, interest rates are at all time lows.

But they are right about one thing: Its strange that conservatives apologize for Bush but dont apologize for Reagan. I could be wrong but I believe that as a percentage of GDP, spending was lower under Bush than under Reagan.
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Re: The Libertarian's GOP Wall Of Shame.
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2011, 09:57:07 PM »
Many people are complaining right now about unemployment under Barack Obama. In the first 18 months of Obama's presidency, unemployment has increased from 7.7 percent to 9.5 percent.

Did you know that during the first 18 months of Reagan's presidency, unemployment increased from 7.5 percent to 9.8 percent?


Dayum.    Pretty crazy.

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Re: The Libertarian's GOP Wall Of Shame.
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2011, 04:22:55 AM »

Dayum.    Pretty crazy.


Democrats wailed about unemployment spiking under Reagan. Yet, we get crickets when the same thing happens under Obama.

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Re: The Libertarian's GOP Wall Of Shame.
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2011, 06:02:38 AM »

Democrats wailed about unemployment spiking under Reagan. Yet, we get crickets when the same thing happens under Obama.

Just like Republicans were silent under Reagan?

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Re: The Libertarian's GOP Wall Of Shame.
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2011, 06:08:17 AM »
Just like Republicans were silent under Reagan?

That's the point. If it's hypocritical for Republicans to complain about unemployment under Obama but be silent under Reagan, then it's hypocritical for Dems to have wailed about it under Reagan but be ziplocked under Obama.


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Re: The Libertarian's GOP Wall Of Shame.
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2011, 06:09:10 AM »
Just like Republicans were silent under Reagan?

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Do you know why dork? 

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Re: The Libertarian's GOP Wall Of Shame.
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2011, 06:17:51 AM »
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Do you know why dork? 

It was a rhetorical question crybaby. 

Just as McWay already explained above. 

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Re: The Libertarian's GOP Wall Of Shame.
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2011, 11:26:02 AM »
In a nutshell, this is why losertarians never win elections. And about unemployment going up more under Reagan more than it went up under Obama : Reagan had to kill inflation by jacking up interest rates. It is one of the  biggest reasons why Reagan is the best president in the 20th century. Under Obama, interest rates are at all time lows.

But they are right about one thing: Its strange that conservatives apologize for Bush but dont apologize for Reagan. I could be wrong but I believe that as a percentage of GDP, spending was lower under Bush than under Reagan.
How do you jack-up interest rates?

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Re: The Libertarian's GOP Wall Of Shame.
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2011, 11:27:10 AM »
How do you jack-up interest rates?

Read up on Reagan and Volker and how they tamed the raging infation from the 70's. 

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Re: The Libertarian's GOP Wall Of Shame.
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2011, 02:27:07 PM »
Read up on Reagan and Volker and how they tamed the raging infation from the 70's. 

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-carterreagan.htm

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Re: The Libertarian's GOP Wall Of Shame.
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2011, 02:29:00 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Volcker

Volcker seems like a bright guy