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I'll have those ******* voting Democratic for the next 200 years." -- Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One

Ronald Kessler's "Inside The White House"
http://www.amazon.com/Inside-White-Hidden-Modern-Presidents/dp/B000J0JJE4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1300393821&sr=8-2



"These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.” -- LBJ

"This civil rights program about which you have heard so much is a farce and a sham--an effort to set up a police state in the guise of liberty. I am opposed to that program. I fought it in the Congress. It is the province of the state to run its own elections. I am opposed to the anti-lynching bill because the Federal Government has no business enacting a law against one kind of murder than another...(And) if a man can tell you who you must hire, he can tell you who not to employ. I have met this head on." Austin, Texas May 22, 1948 quoted in Quotations from Chairman LBJ, Simon and Schuster, NY 1968


http://www.amazon.com/QUOTATIONS-CHAIRMAN-LBJ-Simon-Schuster/dp/B000C0X3K2/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1300393898&sr=1-1


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Re: "I'll have those N_____ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2011, 01:41:24 PM »
I'll have those ******* voting Democratic for the next 200 years." -- Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One

Ronald Kessler's "Inside The White House"
http://www.amazon.com/Inside-White-Hidden-Modern-Presidents/dp/B000J0JJE4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1300393821&sr=8-2



"These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.” -- LBJ

"This civil rights program about which you have heard so much is a farce and a sham--an effort to set up a police state in the guise of liberty. I am opposed to that program. I fought it in the Congress. It is the province of the state to run its own elections. I am opposed to the anti-lynching bill because the Federal Government has no business enacting a law against one kind of murder than another...(And) if a man can tell you who you must hire, he can tell you who not to employ. I have met this head on." Austin, Texas May 22, 1948 quoted in Quotations from Chairman LBJ, Simon and Schuster, NY 1968


http://www.amazon.com/QUOTATIONS-CHAIRMAN-LBJ-Simon-Schuster/dp/B000C0X3K2/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1300393898&sr=1-1




You're really into race lately man, what gives?

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Re: "I'll have those N_____ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2011, 01:44:53 PM »
Straw asked me to source a reference i made a week go regarding LBJ.   

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Re: "I'll have those N_____ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2011, 02:01:20 PM »
more unattributed quotes ?(the one supposedly made to two governors - it would be helpful to know which governors)

the other two quotes from LBJ?

one has no date and the other is dated from 1948 so it can't be in reference to the civil rights legislation which he signed as President 1964

I would think that fact would be obvious to even you

are you really a lawyer?

Also, it's from a book from 1968 with no author and absolutely zero information about it on Amazon or anywhere that I could find



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Re: "I'll have those N_____ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2011, 02:03:33 PM »
more unattributed quotes ?(the one supposedly made to two governors - it would be helpful to know which governors)

the other two quotes from LBJ?

one has no date and the other is dated from 1948 so it can't be in reference to the civil rights legislation which he signed as President 1964

I would think that fact would be obvious to even you

are you really a lawyer?

Also, it's from a book from 1968 with no author and absolutely zero information about it on Amazon or anywhere that I could find




TBH - i did not know about the second two quotes, only about the first one, which was the one I told you I read about previously.     

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Re: "I'll have those N_____ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2011, 02:08:47 PM »
the first quote is not a quote is unattributed hearsay

the next quote from LBJ is from 1957 and the last is from 1948

your're kind of sloppy with "facts" aren't you?

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Re: "I'll have those N_____ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2011, 02:12:13 PM »
the first quote is not a quote is unattributed hearsay

the next quote from LBJ is from 1957 and the last is from 1948

your're kind of sloppy with "facts" aren't you?


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Re: "I'll have those N_____ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2011, 02:19:41 PM »


bfd - how does that support your claim that

I'll post it later.  LBJ admitted most of the programs were simply voting buying for the Dems and created  dependency.  Not that it at all matters to far leftists like yourself.   

explain precisely what he says in that phone call that supports your statement

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Re: "I'll have those N_____ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2011, 02:24:05 PM »
I didnt post that clip to prove that claim I made.    I posted the first quote which does.  And please straw - you are the only one I have ever heard who claims welfare was ever meant to create anything but a dependent class of people.  and please dont gve m the typical lib clap trap about helping the poor out of a sense of compassion.  It was buying votes and dependency plain and simple.  and it worked like a charm.     

Seriously - what planet do you live on? 

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Re: "I'll have those N_____ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2011, 02:26:03 PM »
I didnt post that clip to prove that claim I made.    I posted the first quote which does.  And please straw - you are the only one I have ever heard who claims welfare was ever meant to create anything but a dependent class of people.  and please dont gve m the typical lib clap trap about helping the poor out of a sense of compassion.  It was buying votes and dependency plain and simple.  and it worked like a charm.     

Seriously - what planet do you live on? 

no your first "quote" is not a quote

how can you be a lawyer and not even understand that


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Re: "I'll have those N_____ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2011, 02:26:13 PM »
I didnt post that clip to prove that claim I made.    I posted the first quote which does.  And please straw - you are the only one I have ever heard who claims welfare was ever meant to create anything but a dependent class of people.  and please dont gve m the typical lib clap trap about helping the poor out of a sense of compassion.  It was buying votes and dependency plain and simple.  and it worked like a charm.      

Seriously - what planet do you live on?  

I don't think that's true... I think Welfare was created to actually assist those who were less fortunate into becoming more productive members of society, however, too many people used the system in a negative way and now we have the mess it has become.

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Re: "I'll have those N_____ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2011, 02:31:08 PM »
I don't think that's true... I think Welfare was created to actually assist those who were less fortunate into becoming more productive members of society, however, too many people used the system in a negative way and now we have the mess it has become.


Right - cause it never happened before in history where paying people to do nothing and pop out more kids and not make them work or produce ever failed.   ::)  ::)

Welfare and social assistance was always the perfect example of liberal white guilt run terribly amok to where Liberal Guilt Ridden whites wanted and still want blacks to love them and thank them for everything so they create policies that guarantee failure and dependency on the govt.   

 

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Re: "I'll have those N_____ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2011, 02:32:58 PM »

Right - cause it never happened before in history where paying people to do nothing and pop out more kids and not make them work or produce ever failed.   ::)  ::)

Welfare and social assistance was always the perfect example of liberal white guilt run terribly amok to where Liberal Guilt Ridden whites wanted and still want blacks to love them and thank them for everything so they create policies that guarantee failure and dependency on the govt.   

 

Where in history did it happen before?

Perhaps I'm just not the history buff, but it seems to me like at the time when "The New Deal" was put in place, social assistance was just starting worldwide from a historical perspective.

When did these people getting paid to do nothing but have kids happen previously in history?

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Re: "I'll have those N_____ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2011, 02:40:11 PM »
Where in history did it happen before?

Perhaps I'm just not the history buff, but it seems to me like at the time when "The New Deal" was put in place, social assistance was just starting worldwide from a historical perspective.

When did these people getting paid to do nothing but have kids happen previously in history?

I read about welfare schemes in Ancient Rome with the same predictable outcome.  I'll dig up a few articles. 



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Re: "I'll have those N_____ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2011, 02:42:23 PM »
I read about welfare schemes in Ancient Rome with the same predictable outcome.  I'll dig up a few articles. 


Would be interesting to read... I have never heard of such a thing.

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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2011, 02:45:04 PM »
Would be interesting to read... I have never heard of such a thing.

Bottom line - the govt became corrupt, the people lazy and distracted, and they became weak as a society and exhausted at the end to where the invading hoardes of barbarians easily took them over 

 

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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2011, 02:50:13 PM »
Would be interesting to read... I have never heard of such a thing.

Check this out.  I cant fit the whole thing here butposted about 205 of it.

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The age of white guilt: and the disappearance of the black individual



Essay


 

By Shelby Steele

Harper's Magazine, November 30, 1999

 

 

One day back in the late fifties, when I was ten or eleven years old, there was a moment when I experienced myself as an individual--as a separate consciousness--for the first time. I was walking home from the YMCA, which meant that I was passing out of the white Chicago suburb where the Y was located and crossing Halsted Street back into Phoenix, the tiny black suburb where I grew up. It was a languid summer afternoon, thick with the industrial-scented humidity of south Chicago that I can still smell and feel on my skin, though I sit today only blocks from the cool Pacific and more than forty years removed.

 

Into Phoenix no more than a block and I was struck by a thought that seemed beyond me. I have tried for years to remember it, but all my effort only pushes it further away. I do remember that it came to me with the completeness of an aphorism, as if the subconscious had already done the labor of crafting it into a fine phrase. What scared me a little at the time was its implication of a separate self with independent thoughts--a distinct self that might distill experience into all sorts of ideas for which I would then be responsible. That feeling of responsibility was my first real experience of myself as an individual--as someone who would have to navigate a separate and unpredictable consciousness through a world I already knew to be often unfair and always tense.

 

Of course I already knew that I was black, or "Negro," as we said back then. No secret there. The world had made this fact quite clear by imposing on my life all the elaborate circumscriptions of Chicago-style segregation. Although my mother was white, the logic of segregation meant that I was born in the hospital's black maternity ward. I grew up in a black neighborhood and walked to a segregated black school as white children in the same district walked to a white school. Kindness in whites always came as a mild surprise and was accepted with a gratitude that I later understood to be a bit humiliating. And there were many racist rejections for which I was only partly consoled by the knowledge that racism is impersonal.

 

Back then I thought of being black as a fate, as a condition I shared with people as various as Duke Ellington and the odd-job man who plowed the neighborhood gardens with a mule and signed his name with an X. And it is worth noting here that never in my life have I met a true Uncle Tom, a black who identifies with white racism as a truth. The Negro world of that era believed that whites used our race against our individuality and, thus, our humanity. There was no embrace of a Negro identity, because that would have weakened the argument for our humanity. "Negroness" or "blackness" would have collaborated with the racist lie that we were different and, thus, would have been true Uncle Tomism. To the contrary, there was an embrace of the individual and assimilation.

 

My little experience of myself as an individual confirmed the message of the civil-rights movement itself, in which a favorite picket sign read, simply, "I am a man." The idea of the individual resonated with Negro freedom--a freedom not for the group but for the individuals who made up the group. And assimilation was not a self-hating mimicry of things white but a mastery by Negro individuals of the modern and cosmopolitan world, a mastery that showed us to be natural members of that world. So my experience of myself as an individual made me one with the group.

 

Not long ago C-SPAN carried a Harvard debate on affirmative action between conservative reformer Ward Connerly and liberal law professor Christopher Edley. During the Q and A a black undergraduate rose from a snickering clump of black students to challenge Mr. Connerly, who had argued that the time for racial preferences was past. Once standing, this young man smiled unctuously, as if victory were so assured that he must already offer consolation. But his own pose seemed to distract him, and soon he was sinking into incoherence. There was impatience in the room, but it was suppressed. Black students play a role in campus debates like this and they are indulged.

 

The campus forum of racial confrontation is a ritual that has changed since the sixties in only one way. Whereas blacks and whites confronted one another back then, now black liberals and black conservatives do the confronting while whites look on--relieved, I'm sure--from the bleachers. I used to feel empathy for students like this young man, because they reminded me of myself at that age. Now I see them as figures of pathos. More than thirty years have passed since I did that sort of challenging, and even then it was a waste of time. Today it is perseveration to the point of tragedy.

 

Here is a brief litany of obvious truths that have been resisted in the public discourse of black America over the last thirty years: a group is no stronger than its individuals; when individuals transform themselves they transform the group; the freer the individual, the stronger the group; social responsibility begins in individual responsibility. Add to this an indisputable fact that has also been unmentionable: that American greatness has a lot to do with a culturally ingrained individualism, with the respect and freedom historically granted individuals to pursue their happiness--this despite many egregious lapses and an outright commitment to the oppression of black individuals for centuries. And there is one last obvious but unassimilated fact: ethnic groups that have asked a lot from their individuals have done exceptionally well in America even while enduring discrimination.



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Re: "I'll have those N_____ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2011, 03:23:58 PM »

You're really into race lately man, what gives?

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Re: "I'll have those N_____ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2011, 04:20:02 PM »
He has no job and is bored... you know what is said about idleness...It is the DEVIL'S playground


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