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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF 3333 CONTINUES...LAUNCHES LIBYA ATTACK
« Reply #200 on: June 18, 2011, 06:32:16 PM »
David Gergen is well respected?


Did I pass through another dimension last night and into the TwilightZone?   ;)  


again....David Gergen has served three presidents...if three men who were the most powerful men in the world wanted him in their administrations, then he definitely fits the qualification of being well-respected.....plus he is constantly on FOX and CNN.....if thats not well-respected then what is????

so I guess you are in the twilight zone

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« Reply #201 on: June 18, 2011, 07:30:55 PM »
Andre fail. 

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« Reply #202 on: June 18, 2011, 07:57:55 PM »
Libyan rebels blame West for lack of cash ("Rebels" admit their campaign is a failure)
yahoo ^ | 6/18/2011 | Reuters
Posted on June 18, 2011 8:15:50 PM EDT by tobyhill

Rebels waging a drawn-out war to oust Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi have run out of money, their oil chief said on Saturday, and he accused the West of failing to keep its promises of urgent financial aid.

His comments came as cracks were appearing in the NATO alliance over its 3-month bombing campaign against Gaddafi, with some allies showing mission fatigue and the United States accusing some European allies of failing to pull their weight.

The rebels have made several gains in the past few weeks, but remain far from seizing their ultimate prize -- Gaddafi's powerbase of Tripoli and its hinterland -- despite air support from the world's most powerful military alliance.

"We are running out of everything. It's a complete failure. Either they (Western nations) don't understand or they don't care. Nothing has materialized yet. And I really mean nothing," rebel oil chief Ali Tarhouni said in an interview with Reuters.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...

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« Reply #203 on: June 19, 2011, 12:03:36 AM »
Andre fail. 

if you can't acknowledge that David Gergen has credibility then arguing with you about anything else is pointless

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« Reply #204 on: June 19, 2011, 12:08:33 AM »
gergan is a smart dude, well connected and experienced.

is he kinda a goofy, awkward weird guy?  Sure.  does he know his shit?  yes, absolutely.

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« Reply #205 on: June 19, 2011, 08:34:18 AM »
gergan is a smart dude, well connected and experienced.

is he kinda a goofy, awkward weird guy?  Sure.  does he know his shit?  yes, absolutely.

thank you..at least there is someone on this board who is sane

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« Reply #206 on: June 19, 2011, 08:50:51 AM »
So well-respected Gergen says he's in his last days. Andreisadouche, how about you delete your account if Gadhafi isn't gone by Wednesday? That would be almost a week. After-all, Gergen knows everything.


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« Reply #207 on: June 19, 2011, 08:58:05 AM »
Ill remembert to consult gergen next time I want to take a shit.  Since he is now the oracle of truth for andreisa95er and 240.

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« Reply #208 on: June 19, 2011, 09:13:45 AM »
Gergen has served four presidents including Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. Gergen joined the Nixon White House in 1971, as a staff assistant on the speech writing team, a group that included Pat Buchanan, Ben Stein, and William Safire. Two years later, he took over as the director. Gergen went on to become the Director of Communications for President Gerald Ford and President Ronald Reagan, a counselor on domestic and foreign affairs for President Bill Clinton and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, and an adviser to the 1980 George H.W. Bush presidential campaign. Despite his long-standing association with Republicans, Gergen has stated that he is actually an independent.[8][9]


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« Reply #209 on: June 19, 2011, 09:18:00 AM »
Funny you don't get krauthhammer the same credence when he destroys the messiah.

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« Reply #210 on: June 19, 2011, 09:45:58 AM »
Funny you don't get krauthhammer the same credence when he destroys the messiah.

he's a smart dude too. 

gergen's been in the white house.  he's seen shit that we can't imagine.  well connected too.  despite his messy appearance, he knows more about things than most who claim to know.

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« Reply #211 on: June 19, 2011, 09:53:36 AM »
Yeah - I guess he knows more than the doj and pentagon lawyers who said this is illegal as well as obama in 2007 who said the same thing. 

Nice try but FAIL.

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« Reply #212 on: June 19, 2011, 10:16:15 AM »
So well-respected Gergen says he's in his last days. Andreisadouche, how about you delete your account if Gadhafi isn't gone by Wednesday? That would be almost a week. After-all, Gergen knows everything.



I know you would like for me to delete my account...this way there would be no one here to call you out on your stupidity and nonsense.....

how did the GED test go???..did you fail again?

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« Reply #213 on: June 19, 2011, 10:17:17 AM »
Ill remembert to consult gergen next time I want to take a shit.  Since he is now the oracle of truth for andreisa95er and 240.
just as the NY Times is the Oracle of truth when they say something you like...other times all you do is criticize them

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« Reply #214 on: June 19, 2011, 10:19:21 AM »
Gergen has served four presidents including Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. Gergen joined the Nixon White House in 1971, as a staff assistant on the speech writing team, a group that included Pat Buchanan, Ben Stein, and William Safire. Two years later, he took over as the director. Gergen went on to become the Director of Communications for President Gerald Ford and President Ronald Reagan, a counselor on domestic and foreign affairs for President Bill Clinton and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, and an adviser to the 1980 George H.W. Bush presidential campaign. Despite his long-standing association with Republicans, Gergen has stated that he is actually an independent.[8][9]



great post 240...and this is the guy Berzerk Fairy and 3333 say has no credibility...WOW...they are deluded.... and then they wonder why they themselves have no credibility

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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF 3333 CONTINUES...LAUNCHES LIBYA ATTACK
« Reply #215 on: June 19, 2011, 10:31:21 AM »
Here's what Obama said, back when he was a candidate for President in 2007:

"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation"
- Senator Barack Obama, December 2007




Eat shit Andre.   

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« Reply #216 on: June 19, 2011, 10:45:49 AM »
Anger ramps up in Congress over Obama’s legal defense of Libya operation

By David A. Fahrenthold and Peter Finn, Published: June 18

On Capitol Hill, legislators who disagree with President Obama’s legal defense of the military operation in Libya will have two options when they resume their session this week. They could try to cut off funding for the campaign, or they could formally register their disapproval that Obama did it without congressional say-so.

The first tactic has rarely worked in U.S. history.

And the second one hasn’t worked on Obama so far.

Unhappiness in Congress was magnified Saturday by a report that Obama ignored some of his legal counselors when he decided last week that the Libya campaign should not be counted as “hostilities.”

That decision allowed him to bypass the 1973 War Powers Resolution, a law that requires presidents to report to Congress on any ongoing military conflict within a limited period of time. After receiving the report, Congress then has to decide whether to authorize the action taken.

On Saturday, sources familiar with the deliberations said Obama had not overruled a formal opinion from the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel — because there wasn’t one. They can take months or a year to put together.

Instead, the sources said, advisers presented him with their opinions and he chose one that White House counsel and the State Department favored.

Still, many in Congress said they were not persuaded by Obama’s logic for avoiding a congressional debate over the three-month-old conflict.

“The president has had to go through legal contortions because he knows he faces a Congress that would not give him approval,” said Rep. Michael R. Turner (R-Ohio). He has proposed a resolution that would allow Congress to formally “disapprove” of the Libya operation. “This has to be stopped,” Turner said.

This week, the Libya debate will become a key test for House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio), who appears caught between his members and his own instincts. In the House, legislators from the ideological right and left have demanded a showdown with Obama. But Boehner has seemed wary of a confrontation. When members rallied around a bill to stop the campaign this month, he authored a resolution that gave Obama 14 more days to make his case.

Obama waited 12 days. And then, on Wednesday, he told Congress he didn’t need its permission.

“U.S. military operations [in Libya] are distinct from the kind of ‘hostilities’ contemplated by” the War Powers Resolution, a White House report said.

The logic was that U.S. forces are mainly limited to supply, logistics and intelligence missions — although American drones continue to attack Libyan targets.

On Saturday, sources said Obama had solicited opinions on the matter from the Pentagon, the State Department, White House counsel and the Office of Legal Counsel, which is set up to provide independent legal analysis.

Advisers from the Pentagon and the Office of Legal Counsel, the sources said, believed that the drone strikes required that the Libya operation be described as “hostilities.” Advisers from the State Department and the White House believed they should not.

Obama, trained as a constitutional lawyer, sided against the inclinations of the Pentagon and the Office of Legal Counsel. One source emphasized this was not an illegal, or even very extraordinary, outcome.

Eric Schultz, a White House spokesman, said that “there was a full airing of views within the administration and a robust process that led the president to his view.”

On Saturday, a New York Times report describing his decision making about Libya and the War Powers act further inflamed Obama’s critics on Capitol Hill. Rep. Thomas J. Rooney (R-Fla.) said the report had convinced him that Congress ought to cut off funds for the operation.

“Today, yes, I would” support that, Rooney said. He said he was troubled by the idea that “people inside the Pentagon . . . are saying one thing but then the administration is saying something different.”

But what is Congress prepared to do about it?

On Saturday, a spokesman for Boehner said the New York Times report “reinforces the need for the White House to answer the questions that Congress and the American people have about our involvement in Libya.”

But spokesman Michael Steel was noncommittal about Boehner’s next move. “That’s something we’ll discuss” with GOP legislators, he said.

The two party leaders in the Senate, Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) were not available for comment on Libya on Saturday.

One option would be to hold a vote to approve or disapprove of the Libyan campaign, even if Obama has said Congress’s approval isn’t necessary.

Last week, two of Obama’s strongest allies on Libya — Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) — said they wanted such a vote. Durbin last week teamed with Sen. Benjamin L. Cardin (D-Md.) and introduced a resolution that would support the president’s Libyan actions but would set an end date of Dec. 30 and bar the introduction of U.S. ground troops, something Obama has said repeatedly he does not plan to do.

Another would be to seek to cut off funding for the operation. Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich (D-Ohio) said Saturday that he would introduce such a measure this week, when the House plans to consider a bill to fund the Pentagon.

That has happened before. In 1973, for instance, after a cease-fire had been agreed to in Vietnam, Congress voted to prohibit money being used to reintroduce troops into Southeast Asia.

In many cases, Congress has been leery about withdrawing money for troops already in harm’s way. That might still be true here, even though U.S. forces are not on the ground in Libya and face relatively little danger in the air.



Staff writers Scott Wilson, Jerry Markon, Felicia Sonmez, Walter Pincus and Ylan Q. Mui and staff researcher Julie Tate contributed to this report.

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Re: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF 3333 CONTINUES...LAUNCHES LIBYA ATTACK
« Reply #217 on: June 19, 2011, 11:22:10 AM »
Here's what Obama said, back when he was a candidate for President in 2007:

"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation"
- Senator Barack Obama, December 2007




Eat shit Andre.   

all presidents informally have that power, moron

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« Reply #218 on: June 19, 2011, 11:24:25 AM »
all presidents informally have that power, moron

Your messiah did not believe that in 2007. 

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« Reply #219 on: June 19, 2011, 11:26:54 AM »
AFP - NATO said Sunday it was investigating Libyan claims that nine civilians, two of them of toddlers, were killed in an alliance air raid and would be "very sorry" if that were the case.
             
"NATO is looking into this matter," said spokesman Wing Commander Mike Bracken. "NATO was operating in Tripoli last night, conducting air strikes against a legitimate military target."
             
Libyan government spokesman Mussa Ibrahim told AFP that a NATO air strike on a residential district of Tripoli early on Sunday killed nine people, five of them from the same family, and wounded 18.
             

The following countries have recognised the Libyan National Transitional Council (NTC) as Libya’s sole and legitimate representative since the beginning of the conflict on February 15 2011.

•    France – 10 March
•    Qatar – 28 March
•    Maldives – 3 April
•    Italy – 4 April
•    Kuwait – 4 April
•    Gambia– 22 April
•    United Kingdom– 12 May
•    Jordan – 24 May
•    Senegal – 28 May
•    Malta – 1er June
•    Spain – 8 June
•    Australia – 9 June
•    United States – 9 June
•    UAE– 12 June
•    Germany – 13 June
•    Canada – 14 June

Earlier in the day, journalists had been shown the bodies of five people, one of them a woman and two of them toddlers.
             
"The other four people were killed as they passed by in front of the block of flats when the raid hit," Ibrahim said.
             
The NATO spokesman said in a statement that the military alliance took "all reports of civilian casualties seriously and we will continue to look into the allegations to determine their authenticity".
             
"NATO deeply regrets any civilian loss of life during this operation and would be very sorry if the review of this incident concluded it to be a NATO weapon," he added.
             
In Tripoli, Ibrahim accused the Western alliance of "deliberately targeting civilians," insisting there were no military targets anywhere near the residential neighbourhood of the capital that was hit.
             
If confirmed, these first established civilian deaths would be an embarrassment for the alliance which has been leading the bombing campaign under a UN mandate to protect civilians.
             
The incident too comes a day after NATO said its aircraft mistakenly hit a column of Libyan rebel forces in the area of Brega on June 16.
             
NATO's latest official operational update on the Libya campaign said that aircraft hit a surface-to-air missile storage facility in Tripoli on Saturday.
             

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It listed the following hits in the vicinity of Tripoli -- one command and control facility, two military vehicle storage facilities, one rocket launcher, four artillery pieces and two surface-to-air missile launchers.
             
On Saturday, NATO said that after looking into reports that an airstrike hit opposition forces in the Brega region on Thursday, "NATO can now confirm that the vehicles hit were part of an opposition patrol".
             
"This incident occurred in an area of conflict between (Moamer) Kadhafi forces and opposition forces," a statement added.
             
"We regret any possible loss of life or injuries caused by this unfortunate incident," NATO said.
             
The statement said a column of military vehicles including tanks was observed in an area where Libyan strongman Kadhafi's forces had recently been operating.
             
"In a particularly complex and fluid battle scenario, it was assessed these vehicles were a threat to civilians and they were subsequently engaged by NATO aircraft."
 

 





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« Reply #220 on: June 19, 2011, 12:06:49 PM »
Your messiah did not believe that in 2007. 
it's 2011 and you're still pissed about 2007 campaign rhetoric?

LOL... are you still mad that team mccain had 'inside polling info' that they were tied, the day before the 08 election?  hahahahaha

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« Reply #221 on: June 19, 2011, 12:11:41 PM »
Oh what the fuck ever.  Stop being such an obama TWAT.   Number 12.

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« Reply #222 on: June 19, 2011, 08:21:38 PM »
Oh what the fuck ever.  Stop being such an obama TWAT.   Number 12.

I guess this makes you an anti-Obama TWAT>????

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« Reply #223 on: June 19, 2011, 10:29:35 PM »
Obama has begun his attack on Libya to help the rebels there....are you satisfied 3333???...Obama is making you look worse than you usually do...keep it up with your baseless attacks on him..and he'll just keep whipping your ass and showing you why he's such a great president

You consider this a good thing? ???

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« Reply #224 on: June 20, 2011, 06:58:30 AM »
You consider this a good thing? ???

YEP