Didn't Reagan go off attacking other nations without approval of congress?

[Hugo Chavez]

It's been so long I can't remember, anybody have the data on that?  I seem to remember he did but might be wrong.


My question is not meant to excuse Obama.  I would rather those guys in Libya be left to kill eachother than have us get involved.  Obama should also go through congress imo...  

[RUDE BUOY]

i dont get why he rushing to get involved places like africa and the middle east are fvcked have been for thousands of years. Blood begets blood nothing any outside source claiming to help can do to ever change this. The people of these nations are brought up on a hefty dose of violence and death and in turn a lot of them not all of them return the favor. It saddens me to say but i have agree with your statement let em kill each other it seems they will never be happy until they do

[Soul Crusher]

Lybia was diectly ehing trhe bombing of barracks and killing of marines and Reagan retaliated. 

Obama is setting a completely different precedent by saying we are going here to protect the citizens and setting the groundwork for endless wars and police actions all over the place.   

Yemen, Baharain, Ivory Coast, etc are all going through the same thing - is obaa going to sed troop and resources ove there too to protect those people? 

   

[Hugo Chavez]

Lybia was diectly ehing trhe bombing of barracks and killing of marines and Reagan retaliated. 

Obama is setting a completely different precedent by saying we are going here to protect the citizens and setting the groundwork for endless wars and police actions all over the place.   

Yemen, Baharain, Ivory Coast, etc are all going through the same thing - is obaa going to sed troop and resources ove there too to protect those people? 

   

I just wanted to know if Reagan attacked other countries without approval from congress.  I don't need any excuses.  I don't agree whatsoever with what Obama has done in this case.  I'm only asking because I had trouble finding absolute info on this and wondered if anyone knew for sure.  I'm not out to bitch slap Reagan, just trying to see if I remember right or not.

[Soul Crusher]

I just wanted to know if Reagan attacked other countries without approval from congress.  I don't need any excuses.  I don't agree whatsoever with what Obama has done in this case.  I'm only asking because I had trouble finding absolute info on this and wondered if anyone knew for sure.  I'm not out to bitch slap Reagan, just trying to see if I remember right or not.

I know that - I ws just giving yo the diference in rationale. We were retailiating for dead marines, Obama is openin the way for endless war, endless police actions, endless world cop, etc.       

[Soul Crusher]

A real President.    Unike the present piece of trash.     

[RUDE BUOY]

I know that - I ws just giving yo the diference in rationale. We were retailiating for dead marines, Obama is openin the way for endless war, endless police actions, endless world cop, etc.       

he aint the only president to do so

[loco]

i dont get why he rushing to get involved places like africa and the middle east are fvcked have been for thousands of years. Blood begets blood nothing any outside source claiming to help can do to ever change this. The people of these nations are brought up on a hefty dose of violence and death and in turn a lot of them not all of them return the favor. It saddens me to say but i have agree with your statement let em kill each other it seems they will never be happy until they do

Libya is one of the world's 10 richest oil-producing countries.

[RUDE BUOY]

Libya is one of the world's 10 richest oil-producing countries.

yah this is true and really what it boils down to now

[240 is Back]

Bottom line is this....

if youtube was filled with images of 60,000 dead libyan families laid out on the roads, repubs would be crapping their pants screaming about obama for his inaction.

they were going to whine no matter what.  No matter what.  So obama just did what the fck he felt like doing, damn the congress and their opinions.  They've been screaming at the top of their lungs about Michelle's red dress and christmas decorations for 2 years now.  Nobody listens to them anymore when they scream about legit uses of american power, as obama has clearly done here.

Stop fcking crying wolf, and people will notice some illegal obama shit like this. 

[Soul Crusher]

    

[Hugo Chavez]

Not saying I like it but....

Neither McCarthy nor Somin mention, however, the War Powers Act, which was passed in the wake of the Vietnam War in an effort to reign in Presidential war power, but which actually enhances that power greatly and gives the President the ability to commit U.S. military forces without seeking Congressional approval under a wide variety of circumstances. As summarized by Wikipedia, the Act “requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30 day withdrawal period, without an authorization of the use of military force or a declaration of war.”

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/congress-the-president-and-war-powers-under-the-constitution/

[Hugo Chavez]

So legally, Obama is in the clear on this as Reagan was.  No, I don't like it either.

[Soul Crusher]

Bottom line is that Obama himself said in 2007 he was against all of this and it was not constitutional. 


But now the obama dildos are still making excuses for him.   Disgusting.   

[RUDE BUOY]

democracy at its finest boil on o melting pot 

[Soul Crusher]

So legally, Obama is in the clear on this as Reagan was.  No, I don't like it either.

Reagan retailiated for dead marines and terrorim directly against our citizens.  Bama is obviously wagging the dog to mask his disastrous economic policies and failures on jobs, energy, healh care, etc.      

[240 is Back]

   

roll your eyes, but you know i'm right.  

reagan did dirt, then "didn't recall" it.  Bush 1?  LMAO.   clinton got away with tons of shit.  bush did whatever he wanted.  obama's just doing what every other president did.

[RUDE BUOY]

roll your eyes, but you know i'm right.  

reagan did dirt, then "didn't recall" it.  Bush 1?  LMAO.   clinton got away with tons of shit.  bush did whatever he wanted.  obama's just doing what every other president did.

he just doin it in all his blackness and thats why people being hard on his ass

[loco]

Not saying I like it but....

Neither McCarthy nor Somin mention, however, the War Powers Act, which was passed in the wake of the Vietnam War in an effort to reign in Presidential war power, but which actually enhances that power greatly and gives the President the ability to commit U.S. military forces without seeking Congressional approval under a wide variety of circumstances. As summarized by Wikipedia, the Act “requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30 day withdrawal period, without an authorization of the use of military force or a declaration of war.”

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/congress-the-president-and-war-powers-under-the-constitution/

Good find Hugo!  I guess this means it's legal and Obama is off the hook as long as the US pulls out of Libya within 60 days, if congress does not authorize this military action.

[240 is Back]

he just doin it in all his blackness and thats why people being hard on his ass

is this true, 33?

i know the use of race in your posts only started a short while back.

obama doesn't see black/white.   he sees elite, and the rest of us poor scrubs.  his skin color is nothing but clever marketing.  

let's face it, obama has become bush, reagan, clinton, etc.  nothing more, nothing less.  unless you have a thread complaining about reagan 'forgetting' shit... piss off.  go take the piss.

[RUDE BUOY]

is this true, 33?

i know the use of race in your posts only started a short while back.

obama doesn't see black/white.   he sees elite, and the rest of us poor scrubs.  his skin color is nothing but clever marketing.  

let's face it, obama has become bush, reagan, clinton, etc.  nothing more, nothing less.  unless you have a thread complaining about reagan 'forgetting' shit... piss off.  go take the piss.

i guess if you really look at the states now you could be right there is no race just rich and poor maybe classism is the worlds biggest problem now

[Hugo Chavez]

Bottom line is that Obama himself said in 2007 he was against all of this and it was not constitutional. 


But now the obama dildos are still making excuses for him.   Disgusting.   

I'm not an Obama dildo making excuses for him    I'm just fuking trying to get the goddamed facts straight so I understand what I'm fucking looking at.  Step down buddy.

I agree that Obama is a hypocrite for saying what he said, I was the first person to post that quote from Obama via Michael Moore's website here... no credit given though but everyone repeating it...

[Soul Crusher]

is this true, 33?

i know the use of race in your posts only started a short while back.

obama doesn't see black/white.   he sees elite, and the rest of us poor scrubs.  his skin color is nothing but clever marketing.  

let's face it, obama has become bush, reagan, clinton, etc.  nothing more, nothing less.  unless you have a thread complaining about reagan 'forgetting' shit... piss off.  go take the piss.

LOL.  Getbig is not 25 years old you dope.  And I like how you always excuse the misdoings of your messiah and lord savior by trying to go back and find somethinhg else someone else did.  

Yeah, really a  good example for that.  

[240 is Back]

LOL.  Getbig is not 25 years old you dope.  And I like how you always excuse the misdoings of your messiah and lord savior by trying to go back and find somethinhg else someone else did. 

Yeah, really a  good example for that.   

33,

Do you condemn Reagan for his obvious lies when he said that he had forgotten important details about the Iran-contra affair?

[Hugo Chavez]

Good find Hugo!  I guess this means it's legal and Obama is off the hook as long as the US pulls out of Libya within 60 days, if congress does not authorize this military action.

unfortunately this looks like the case... I seem to remember a few things going down like this before but wanted to make sure I was remembering right.  I thought I remembered people talking about this issue a long time ago and found this reference.