Obama: Helping install "a democratic system" is goal in Libya.

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White House: Helping install 'a democratic system' is goal in Libya
By Sam Youngman - 03/22/11 10:23 AM ET
 
The White House suggested Tuesday the mission in Libya is one of regime change, despite emphatic statements from President Obama and military brass that the goal is not to remove Moammar Gadhafi from power.

According to a White House readout of a Monday night call between Obama and Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the two leaders "underscored their shared commitment to the goal of helping provide the Libyan people an opportunity to transform their country, by installing a democratic system that respects the people’s will."

The term "installing" suggests the goal of regime change.

In an e-mail, White House press secretary Jay Carney said there is no change in the U.S. military mission, which he wrote was clearly focused on protecting civilians. He also noted Obama's remark Monday that Gadhafi is no longer fit to lead.

From the onset of the strikes against Libya, senior administration officials have said the goal is to create an atmosphere where Libyan rebels would be able to oust Gadhafi from power.

Obama has struggled to reconcile the stated U.S. policy of wanting Gadhafi out of power with the U.N. mission of protecting the Libyan people.

At a press conference Monday in Chile, Obama said it is "very easy to square our military actions and our stated policies."

But the president faces an increasingly hostile backlash from Capitol Hill about the specific definition of the mission.

This story was updated at 2:43 p.m.

Source:
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/151191-white-house-suggests-regime-change-is-goal-of-libya-mission

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Obama lied - th economy died. 

[Soul Crusher]

I guess the circle is now complete with Obama becoming GWB. 

[Hugo Chavez]

total cock smearing gay ass crap, we all know that the new "democratic Libya" will hold elections and the extreme fools will win and we'll be left wondering why the hell we helped out.

[Soul Crusher]

total cock smearing gay ass crap, we all know that the new "democratic Libya" will hold elections and the extreme fools will win and we'll be left wondering why the hell we helped out.

Obama lied his ass off on this and it is plainly obvious at this point.   

[OzmO]

GWB 2. Return of the Sith

[240 is Back]

33,

would you agree with BB that this is a LEGAL war?

[Soul Crusher]

33,

would you agree with BB that this is a LEGAL war?

It may fit under hyper technical detais, but definately does not comport with the spirit and intent of the law and Obama is already on very thn ice how he has gone about this. 

Three days in to this mess and Obama's lies are already coming to light by the second.   

[Kazan]

33,

would you agree with BB that this is a LEGAL war?

Has there been a declaration of war? If not then this technically isn't a war, then question becomes what the fuck exactly are we doing there? I told you something was up when we sent amphibious assault ships over there.

[Soul Crusher]

Ron Paul: US lacked constitutional authority to attack Libya
By Josiah Ryan - 03/22/11 01:00 PM ET


http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/151225-ron-paul-us-lacked-constitutional-authority-to-attack-libya


 
Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) says the U.S. lacked the constitutional authority to attack Libya without the approval of Congress.

"I don't think we have the constitutional authority," said Paul told CNN’s Anderson Cooper Monday night. "We just flat out don't have the authority to go around the world pretending we can take care of everybody and police the world.”

An aide to Paul clarified on Tuesday that Paul believes the president assumes the role of commander in chief of the armed forces once Congress has officially declared war. The aide pointed to Article 1, Section 8, of the Constitution, which grants Congress the sole power to declare war.

Some critics of President Obama’s decision to use military force to enforce a United Nations-backed no-fly zone in Libya point to a comment he made to The Boston Globe while campaigning in 2007.

"The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation," Obama said at the time.

Paul also argued that if Moammar Gadhafi falls from power, the U.S. might be paving the way for other “thugs” to take over.

"We might be bringing one dictator in and getting rid of another one for all we know,” said Paul. “I mean, the intent is good. Everybody feels good about it and wants to help. But just like going into Iraq … look at the tragedy that came from that."

Paul added he believes that U.S. efforts to bring stabilization are bringing "the opposite.”

"I think for us to be in another Muslim country doesn't sit well with the other Muslim countries," said Paul

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It may fit under hyper technical detais, but definately does not comport with the spirit and intent of the law and Obama is already on very thn ice how he has gone about this. 

Three days in to this mess and Obama's lies are already coming to light by the second.   

It's not even "hyper technical" The war powers act is straight forward on it.  As far as I see there is not going to be any kind of legal challenge against what he's done and we're going to look stupid for suggesting otherwise.  I don't like it, but it's true.  You may hate it, I may hate it, we all might hate it, but it's very clear and Obama does have the authority to do what he's doing right now.  Just the sad facts, sorry.

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Eric Holder: Gaddafi's Presence In Libya "Has Got To End"
 
Eric Holder says since Gaddafi has lost all legitimacy with his people and is ruling in an unstable way, he must go.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/03/22/eric_holder_gaddafis_presence_in_libya_has_got_to_end.html


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WTF? 

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Does anyone even know what our mission is?  If it's solely to enforce the no fly zone, we've already seen the beginnings of "mission creep" with this talk of regime change.  Holder was on TV today talking about Kadafi needing to go.  

[Dos Equis]

Eric Holder: Gaddafi's Presence In Libya "Has Got To End"
 
Eric Holder says since Gaddafi has lost all legitimacy with his people and is ruling in an unstable way, he must go.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/03/22/eric_holder_gaddafis_presence_in_libya_has_got_to_end.html


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WTF? 

Hey I just said that.   

[Soul Crusher]

What does Holder have to do with this? 

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Already called Schmuer, Lowey, and Gillibrand and rose hell over this.   They said people are pissed off about this.     

[240 is Back]

you're either with the top lawyer in the land, Holder,

or you're with a terrorist kadaffi who killed americans.

[Kazan]

you're either with the top lawyer in the land, Holder,

or you're with a terrorist kadaffi who killed americans.

If he's the top lawyer in the land, our legal system is doomed

[Soul Crusher]

Obama confers with Turkish, Qatari leaders on Libya

President Barack Obama (L) shakes hands with Turkey's Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan in front of Ethiopia's Prime Minister Meles Zenawi during the family photo session at the G20 Summit in Seoul November 12, 2010.

Credit: Reuters/Jim Young


http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/22/us-libya-obama-turkey-idUSTRE72L3NH20110322


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ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE | Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:39am EDT

ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE (Reuters) - President Barack Obama, who is seeking to shore up participation and clarify leadership of the military attacks on Libyan forces, spoke with Turkish and Qatari leaders on Monday evening, the White House said.

In a statement released on Tuesday it said Obama and Turkey's Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan agreed the mission "will require a broad-based international effort, including Arab states."

The Obama administration wants to shift the United States out of the lead role for military intervention in Libya.

NATO member Turkey has said it is unable to agree to NATO taking over enforcement of a no-fly zone over Libya if the scope of the operation goes beyond what the United Nations sanctioned.

The White House statement said that on the call with Erdogan, the two leaders reaffirmed support for the United Nations Security Council resolution authorizing "all necessary measures" to protect civilians in Libya.

"The leaders agreed that this will require a broad-based international effort, including Arab states, to implement and enforce the UN resolutions, based on national contributions and enabled by NATO's unique multinational command and control capabilities to ensure maximum effectiveness," the statement said.

In the call with Qatar's Emir, Obama underscored Qatar's contribution to the Libya mission, a White House official told reporters aboard Air Force One as the U.S. president was traveling in Latin America.

(Writing by Caren Bohan; Editing by Paul Simao)


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When is obama going to confer with the congress?   



WTF is this?



Seriously -  its time to impeach obama asap and get it over wih.  Sorry - if the 95% don't like it.   

[Soul Crusher]

Can we all agree that Obama is now the worst of GWB that the left, the libs, the media, and the obama team trashed him fr for 6 years?