Rand Paul may run for President in 2012

[Fury]

Will you give me $1 for every 240 quote I provide where I have bashed obama?

I'll give you $1 for every 240 quote where you actually bash Obama without also justifying his actions by attacking the Repubs in a passive aggressive manner. 

[Dos Equis]

He doesn't have the name recognition or the money to be a serious player. 

[240 is Back]

He doesn't have the name recognition or the money to be a serious player. 

I dunno... if Ron Paul was out campaigning for him, the $ would come.  RP earned what, 35 million bucks, just in the EARLY primary season?  And 12 mil of that was money bombs? 

Add in the number of dems who will donate to him (cause no Dem candidate in primary) and 2008 repub voters/donors who wish they had voted Ron Paul... You have a very good potential for raising cash.  The infrastructure is there.

NAME?  Are you kidding?  RON paul has serious name recognition.  His kid won an improbale senator job (despite ZERO experience outside of being a doc and running a little special interest group) on NAME RECOGNITION ALONE.


So to your two points, I have to disagree.  He has the name and he has the infrastructure to raise the cash.  of course, your have a history of shitting on Ron Paul for not being 'viable' then supporting vp candidates dumber than a bag of hair, so...

[Dos Equis]

I dunno... if Ron Paul was out campaigning for him, the $ would come.  RP earned what, 35 million bucks, just in the EARLY primary season?  And 12 mil of that was money bombs? 

Add in the number of dems who will donate to him (cause no Dem candidate in primary) and 2008 repub voters/donors who wish they had voted Ron Paul... You have a very good potential for raising cash.  The infrastructure is there.

NAME?  Are you kidding?  RON paul has serious name recognition.  His kid won an improbale senator job (despite ZERO experience outside of being a doc and running a little special interest group) on NAME RECOGNITION ALONE.


So to your two points, I have to disagree.  He has the name and he has the infrastructure to raise the cash.  of course, your have a history of shitting on Ron Paul for not being 'viable' then supporting vp candidates dumber than a bag of hair, so...

That's just downright silly.  Ron Paul, comparatively, has raised peanuts.  He cannot raise nearly enough money to be a viable candidate.  There is no way he can raise hundreds of millions, which is what the Republican nominee will need to win. 

And name recognition?  Please.  Rand Paul is an unknown.  His name appears nowhere in straw polls.  Thune had the same problem, which is why he dropped out before even running.  He didn't have the name recognition or the cash. 

As much as I like Ron Paul, he is little more than an internet phenom.  He ran a long campaign in 2008 and never came close to winning a single primary.  He had to fight to win reelection in his Congressional district.  To think he has some great national "infrastructure" really makes no sense and conflicts with the actual historical facts.  The man will never win a national race.  His son might, but certainly not in 2012. 

[240 is Back]

Rand paul earned the 4th highest in 2009 $ among Senate challengers - for a small state like KY, that's very good. 

A man with zero experience in politics, he sure as heck wouldn't have been earning the $ and winning the race if his name was Joe Smith. 

You've poo-poo'd Ron Paul for 2 years, so it's no surprise you have it out for his son.  It's cool - just remember that those who love Ron Paul will love his son too, very similiar on most issues.  Toss in the fact he's the face of the tea party, and see the damage they did in 2010.

He may have a real chance here.

[Dos Equis]

Rand paul earned the 4th highest in 2009 $ among Senate challengers - for a small state like KY, that's very good. 

A man with zero experience in politics, he sure as heck wouldn't have been earning the $ and winning the race if his name was Joe Smith. 

You've poo-poo'd Ron Paul for 2 years, so it's no surprise you have it out for his son.  It's cool - just remember that those who love Ron Paul will love his son too, very similiar on most issues.  Toss in the fact he's the face of the tea party, and see the damage they did in 2010.

He may have a real chance here.

All I've done is state the facts.  And how much did Rand Paul raise?  Was it even $1 million? 

Do you have any idea how much it takes to run a successful presidential campaign? 

So now being the face of the tea party is a good thing?  lol . . .

I'm sure it's hard for you to accept the 'tea party' movement has already peaked.

[240 is Back]

He raised 1.75 million in 2009.  Not too shabby for such a low population state, and his first foray into politics.

RON paul led repubs in 1 or 2 quarters in fundraising - and had the win with military donors too, didn't he?  And he was out of it early, still go 35 million in the primaries. 

I believe most RON paul voters will vote RAND.
I believe RON's $ raising machine will work for RAND.
I believe everyone who cried RON was too old will like RAND.

I think he's got at least as decent a chance as the romneycare mornon Mittens... the "losing to charlie sheen with independents" Palin... the "milking your asses while flip flopping on Libya" newt, etc.

fact is, until a Jeb jumps in, it's amateur hour in the GOP primaries.  Rand is the voice of the tea party (not palin, RINO supporting capping emissions, amnesty and TARP) and while the TP is losing some influence, it's still tops among GOP voters.

[Dos Equis]

Well stop the presses.  He raised $1.75 million.  Add his father's $35 million (?) and he'd only need about another $462 million. 

Even if Rand Paul gets every single Ron Paul voter, he still wins nothing.  I said this jokingly before, but I question whether Ron Paul got more votes than Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton when they ran for president.  The man's national support is paper thin. 

What Ron Paul supporters don't like to talk about is the facts, like money, number votes, primary losses, and struggling to win reelection in his home state.  For example, here are the results from Ron Paul's home state in 2008 (Republican presidential primary):

John McCain   707,622   51%
Mike Huckabee   521,950   38%   
Ron Paul           69,824   5%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2008_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries#Texas_primary

How on earth can the man win a national election when he gets 5 percent of the vote in his home state in a primary?? 

[240 is Back]

How on earth can the man win a national election when Sean Hannity and FOX News trash him nonstop?

That's a really good question man.

[Dos Equis]

That's a really good question man.

That's good.  Pretty consistent with you just making stuff up (like Newt making $14.5 million from his PAC).   

[Hugo Chavez]

Well stop the presses.  He raised $1.75 million.  Add his father's $35 million (?) and he'd only need about another $462 million. 

Even if Rand Paul gets every single Ron Paul voter, he still wins nothing.  I said this jokingly before, but I question whether Ron Paul got more votes than Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton when they ran for president.  The man's national support is paper thin. 

What Ron Paul supporters don't like to talk about is the facts, like money, number votes, primary losses, and struggling to win reelection in his home state.  For example, here are the results from Ron Paul's home state in 2008 (Republican presidential primary):

John McCain   707,622   51%
Mike Huckabee   521,950   38%   
Ron Paul           69,824   5%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2008_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries#Texas_primary

How on earth can the man win a national election when he gets 5 percent of the vote in his home state in a primary?? 

it's people like you that keep America from getting back to its true roots.

To my knowledge you have never got on here telling us what policies you don't like from Ron Paul.  You've mainly just said, he can't win so fuck that... You've mocked him, you've mocked me for pointing out people talk about him more than other candidates.  So what's the beef buddy...  lay out what you don't like about this guy's political stance....  Because there are a jillion others like you and I wanna hear what's so wrong with Ron Paul that you can't vote for him?

[whork25]

That's a really good question man.

That alone should get him voters.

Trashing from FOX News and especially Hannity is a sign you have some good ideas.
If you get the support from Hannity it just meanes you area piece of shit and a traitor to the american cause

[Dos Equis]

it's people like you that keep America from getting back to its true roots.

To my knowledge you have never got on here telling us what policies you don't like from Ron Paul.  You've mainly just said, he can't win so fuck that... You've mocked him, you've mocked me for pointing out people talk about him more than other candidates.  So what's the beef buddy...  lay out what you don't like about this guy's political stance....  Because there are a jillion others like you and I wanna hear what's so wrong with Ron Paul that you can't vote for him?

LOL!  I'm the reason Ron Paul didn't win a single primary?  It's my fault he got 5 percent of the vote in the 2008 Republican primary?  It's my fault he had trouble convincing people in his own Congressional district to vote for him?  lol . . . O.k.  That's really funny.   

When have I ever mocked Ron Paul?  Quote me.  Maybe I have Alzheimer's, but all I've ever done is talk about how I like the guy, and point out why he will never be president.

What I have mocked is the absurd comments about the evil media conspiracy to suppress Ron Paul, and that this is the reason why he can't get elected. 

And to say I've never disagreed with him is flat out false too.