My "average at best" arms!!!

[Coach is Back!]

Agreed. Groink has more years of hormonization and I bet he's pretty consistent in the gym.

Alex built himself up as some sort of natural wonder boy with unheard of bodybuilding genetics. Which is why he won't step on stage, the internet meme is more important to him than eating humble pie and showing the true level of his wonder genetics.

Well I didn't mention you. 

But why only pretty up front? What have you hidden? 

You're splitting hairs, ok...I've been very upfront

[Bam-bam]

He does have amazing genes. Brutal strength, practical and real-world-applicable intelligence, and pro size with no drugs. Again he is not inclined to diet to levels you demand as he has a busy life being an incredibly successful human being earning more than a regular thongman can dream of.

You seem to think that everything must confirm to your narrow and blinkered world view, Vanbuiltass; not everybody is dependent on AAS to built muscle and some have too much going on in the realm of winning to always worry about dieting, shaving, thongs and tanning. Let alone ampoules and scar tissue.

Alex and Groink are genuine alpha-men in a sea of Beta. You can't sink their boat.

PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

last phrase of reply all in caps and with just a few words..., hmm, Im pretty sure I have seen this posting style before, lol

[gh15]

He does have amazing genes. Brutal strength, practical and real-world-applicable intelligence, and pro size with no drugs. Again he is not inclined to diet to levels you demand as he has a busy life being an incredibly successful human being earning more than a regular thongman can dream of.

You seem to think that everything must confirm to your narrow and blinkered world view, Vanbuiltass; not everybody is dependent on AAS to built muscle and some have too much going on in the realm of winning to always worry about dieting, shaving, thongs and tanning. Let alone ampoules and scar tissue.

Alex and Groink are genuine alpha-men in a sea of Beta. You can't sink their boat.

PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

nah ,,i know right now and can give you examples of 5'9 5'10 fellas that are buck 90 or 200lb 7-8% and look better and more muscular and appear bigger than him ,,he has good genetic respond but nothing extra ordinary,,infact ill go here and say that he also used uses insulin,,very long time user but just in most likihood doesnt give a fuck about dieting with clean food like all of us since we dont...but we use tons of gh and he doesnt thats why he is 9% and we are 6-7% ..thats the allllll difference friend

also inregarding to his job ...all nice and dandy but plenty of fellas with good jobs that use hormones,,groink is highly dependent on hormones,,we already seen what he looked like on maintennnnence doses of testosterona back in the day when he was sitting on the couch smiling with tht blue shirt or whatever it was back in 2008 ...cant remember the exact picture,,in any case there! he was only on 500-750mg testosterona a week and nothing else and you saw what he looked like,,

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[tendonitis]

He does have amazing genes. Brutal strength, practical and real-world-applicable intelligence, and pro size with no drugs. Again he is not inclined to diet to levels you demand as he has a busy life being an incredibly successful human being earning more than a regular thongman can dream of.

You seem to think that everything must confirm to your narrow and blinkered world view, Vanbuiltass; not everybody is dependent on AAS to built muscle and some have too much going on in the realm of winning to always worry about dieting, shaving, thongs and tanning. Let alone ampoules and scar tissue.

Alex and Groink are genuine alpha-men in a sea of Beta. You can't sink their boat.

PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

Alex, do you know how pathetic you look when you use one of your many gimmicks to prop yourself up like this. Honestly?
And don't deny it's not you because I know for a fact it is.
And you even putting yourself in the same category as Groink shows how delusional you are.

[gh15]

i will give you even one more thing that wil help the groink fella,,if the groink fella actualy used trenbolona ace...3 months 120mg a day...you woudl see trensformation out of this world here,,he wont lose even a lb of lean muscle and lose all the fat down to 7% ,,no cardio what so ever ....gh will make it even faster and larger as in mor elean muscle mass thus more 3 dimentional look

gh and trenbolona on him will = competitor

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[Bam-bam]

i will give you even one more thing that wil help the groink fella,,if the groink fella actualy used trenbolona ace...3 months 120mg a day...you woudl see trensformation out of this world here,,he wont lose even a lb of lean muscle and lose all the fat down to 7% ,,no cardio what so ever ....gh will make it even faster and larger as in mor elean muscle mass thus more 3 dimentional look

gh and trenbolona on him will = competitor

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tren burns fat?

[gh15]

tren burns fat?

yes,,trenbolona ace will burn fat ,,and will do it WITH ZERO CARDIO,,ofcourse gh will speed the process and make it double and tripe the speed but if you have enough trenbolona in system as in daily injects of true 100mg trenbolona ace...you will get  LEAN pretty fast,,

most bodybuild when see results of trenbolona ace ,,true high quality poweder are so infatuated with it ,,especialy the ones who want to compete and dream live and do bodybuild,,they just become so infatuated that they truely consider injecting every 12 hours...i dont know if its for everyone since its lots of injections and it is cow drug....but i can assure you that MANY bodybuild in top amatuer and profesional put in their body 100-500 mg trenbolona ace a day wether one inject or 2 injects a day they do it,,

its the only drug that actualy yous ee changes from week to week and day to day at time ,,you can actualy see it with trenbolona hapening even if you used to look at yourself alot....you take 60mg every 2 day its gets you some advnacment....you se it you say oh nice,,ill take 100mg every 2 day ..you do it after 3 week you see damn i look leaner and appear bigger....your brain tell you ok lets try 100mg every day ,,,you do this...you start seeing that the muscle become hard and the lines are gettign defined and clearer...you say ummmmm nice you also start hearing at this stage about how lean you become ,,you dont hear anything about loss of size but more of how lean you became and are you getting ready fro show....you hear compliments all over...you go and say ummm lets try 120-150 mg every day...you do this and you actualy start seeing that yoru arms and other musles mesurments grow! while losing bodyfat ....you see on scale 207lb insted of 217 lb yet the arm is 18 inch insted of 17.5 like it used to be back when you were 217lb...

you get the idea?

trenbolona is why fellas can step on stage in the condition they do now day ,,ofcourse other drugs are big part and gh is huge part but trenbolona is VERY VERY IMPORTANT DRUG  for bodybuild since we HATE CARDIO AND WE REALLY DO NOT DO CARDIO ,,we get lean on the drugs with usually not much change in diet aside from lower the fat and paying little more atention ,,but many times we still eat pizza,,still drink natural sugar ,, still eat muffins,,sushi all the time,,german jamaican you name it,,

its the drugs who get us lean and thats the truth

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[Tito24]

[King Shizzo]

How the fuck can anyone claim that steroids are just the "finishing touch"?  This pic alone proves that you can give a woman steroids and she will become bigger and more muscular than 99.9% of the male population. Its way more then an extra 10%.

[gh15]

How the fuck can anyone claim that steroids are just the "finishing touch"?  This pic alone proves that you can give a woman steroids and she will become bigger and more muscular than 99.9% of the male population. Its way more then an extra 10%.

this is not alot either...trenbolona ace on regular basis daily 120-150mg every day
hgh 5 iu a day
prop at minimal doses 50mg a day
masteorn or winstrol for dryign up and hardening effect

that is it,,this is the wholllle secret behind bodybuild,,you want her bigger as in phil heath sbalooned up or the oily rubbery lookin every average competitor on national stage? get her on insulina too

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[King Shizzo]

i will give you even one more thing that wil help the groink fella,,if the groink fella actualy used trenbolona ace...3 months 120mg a day...you woudl see trensformation out of this world here,,he wont lose even a lb of lean muscle and lose all the fat down to 7% ,,no cardio what so ever ....gh will make it even faster and larger as in mor elean muscle mass thus more 3 dimentional look

gh and trenbolona on him will = competitor

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Why the fuck do I even try to bust my ass as a natural anymore?   I can take something that will get me ripped without cardio and while keeping all my muscle?  I'm starting to wonder how "hardcore" some of these bodybuilders really are.  It seems like it would be pretty easy if your taking the right combination of shit.  

[gh15]

i forgot to mention that with the so call female it is also aromataze inhibitor to completly shut down estrogen production ,,they prefger letrozole and arimidex nwo day ,,used to be estrogen blockers now day the serious ones prefer to completely eliminate the estrogen that in female go crazy high ,,its like the fat middle eastern male only a female version which put it to the 10th degree and that true to every female out there inregard to estrogen,,so they always use good blocker

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[King Shizzo]

this is not alot either...trenbolona ace on regular basis daily 120-150mg every day
hgh 5 iu a day
prop at minimal doses 50mg a day
masteorn or winstrol for dryign up and hardening effect

that is it,,this is the wholllle secret behind bodybuild,,you want her bigger as in phil heath sbalooned up or the oily rubbery lookin every average competitor on national stage? get her on insulina too

gh15 approved

Oh its no secret my friend.  I just dont like the idea of going through back-alley transactions because some government fuck-tard made it illegal.  Smoking and alcohol kill hundreds of thousands of innocent ppl yet they are still legal  

[gh15]

Why the fuck do I even try to bust my ass as a natural anymore?   I can take something that will get me ripped without cardio and while keeping all my muscle?  I'm starting to wonder how "hardcore" some of these bodybuilders really are.  It seems like it would be pretty easy if your taking the right combination of shit.  

we are not,,we spend 45 min in the gym 4 times a week ,,if we are high on trenbolona which is the only drug that really get you "muscle high" and agressive then we go 5-6 times and in prep in general 5-6 times a week ,,if very drug infested we do prep 2 time a day inorder to get down to 4% from 6% but thats when we are loaded on specific product such as trenbolona and other specific products,,


who ever told you bodybuild do cardio aside from when they want to get down to 4% from 6%....lied to you,,bodybuild walk around day in day out 6% with zero cardio ,,


trenbolona is the best cardio one can have,,and gh added to it eliminate the need to eat very clean to begin with,,

what do you think we get to be 250lb on stage by eating brokly and dry chieck ? wize up friends,,dry chikcen and brokly put you on stage at 162 lb ,,you want 200lb + hell you want 185lb + on stage you need DRUGS and specific ones.... you also need to stop thinking that clean food is the way to get ripped,,clean food is the way to get FLAT and lean....if you want ripped and shredded it is DRUGS and then combination of food rich in calories and then some clean food ,,you need to knwo your body and your HORMONES

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[The Abdominal Snoman]

Groink looks pretty good. The other fella who is 6% bodyfat looks great. Here's one caveat to this. Regardless of the amount of training a man/woman does in the gym or elsewhere, Testosterone does not increase once you get into your 30's and 40's. If Groink has been lifting for 20plus years, his physique "if natural like he states" would be much more impressive in his early to late 20's. A natural physique in their 40's would be trying to hang on to anything they can. A natural in their 40's can't hide from muscle wasting.

[King Shizzo]

we are not,,we spend 45 min in the gym 4 times a week ,,if we are high on trenbolona which is the only drug that really get you "muscle high" and agressive then we go 5-6 times and in prep in general 5-6 times a week ,,if very drug infested we do prep 2 time a day inorder to get down to 4% from 6% but thats when we are loaded on specific product such as trenbolona and other specific products,,


who ever told you bodybuild do cardio aside from when they want to get down to 4% from 6%....lied to you,,bodybuild walk around day in day out 6% with zero cardio ,,


trenbolona is the best cardio one can have,,and gh added to it eliminate the need to eat very clean to begin with,,

what do you think we get to be 250lb on stage by eating brokly and dry chieck ? wize up friends,,dry chikcen and brokly put you on stage at 162 lb ,,you want 200lb + hell you want 185lb + on stage you need DRUGS and specific ones.... you also need to stop thinking that clean food is the way to get ripped,,clean food is the way to get FLAT and lean....if you want ripped and shredded it is DRUGS and then combination of food rich in calories and then some clean food ,,you need to knwo your body and your HORMONES

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Wow.................... This is 100% truth right here.  You wont find this in any of those muscle mags. 

[no one]

Whenever someone replies to your post its a "meltdown" and they are "smashing their keyboard".........CHECK

LOLOL...thanks for proving my point for me you moron  


PS......Making sure you begin or end your posts with "Ahahahahahahahaaaaa" ....So we all know "you don't care"....CHECK

awww, dont be so hurt 'arm don'.  

thats quite the check list your compiling. you forgot this one:

in your head....CHECK.

its fun knowing you jump every time i post, no matter what i write. whats it like knowing that you have to reply to everything i say?

ahahahahahahaahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahhaa < (just for you)

[no one]

Never......not once.

here's the thing......ifs guys like ME that look inhuman look like freaks geared up...and pretty good otherwise.

never said I was the biggest or best here......but NATTY. ..I'm way way up there.

oh this is awesome - our very own 'groink-' king of the internet bodybuilders- claiming to look 'inhuman'

holy fuck- you look inhuman now.  wow. nice ego sparky. what a dick.

lol

[gh15]

Groink looks pretty good. The other fella who is 6% bodyfat looks great. Here's one caveat to this. Regardless of the amount of training a man/woman does in the gym or elsewhere, Testosterone does not increase once you get into your 30's and 40's. If Groink has been lifting for 20plus years, his physique "if natural like he states" would be much more impressive in his early to late 20's. A natural physique in their 40's would be trying to hang on to anything they can. A natural in their 40's can't hide from muscle wasting.

take a look at bobbie skin ,,then take a look at groink skin.....same thing,,testosterona overload,,at the age talk about they have ZERO test production by balls,,the apearance of skin can never be misguided when on testosterona,,the reason you build size is from higher doses of testosterona as in 1-2 grams not 500mg.....notice the fella on 1200mg testosterona always look swole,,if they start with low enough bodyfat they look thick and swole and high singles,,

inaddition the oily skin is a give away ,,you can never hide oily skin ,,you can see it shining from distance,,you can hide pimples and eliminate them and all the other shit americanos do becuase they waste more money on the bi products to prevent sides than on the hormones lol ,,but the oily skin you can never stop and he has big time oily skin ,,its just stuff you cant hide especialy when you talk serious bodybuild,,

then again look at skippy lacour,,his skin is floaded with oil lol he has so much oil falling off his delts and forhead that he can open oil factory and yet he is making a living off natural bodybuild lol

its ust somethign wrong but its americana anything is possible aslong as you shut your mouth,,

if you only knew how they beg for hormones behind close doors and how much kiss ass being made you would  not belivee your eyes,, its just amazing human nature especialy of this generation

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[newmom]

thats where you confuse it missy,, kreator can walk into any npc show and win first place and over all quite easily,, he got one of bext upper bod on the getbig board,,groink can go into competition and dont know how he will place,,

both are hormonized,, kreator with out shame put it all out,,was true abotu it ,,groink is not,,the level of thicknes of groink is beyond anything natural can ever get in the level of bodyfat presented,,he got the all americano dealer look ,,you know what this look is? it is the look of the local dealer who get into gym with the gym bag full of goodies circa 2003....and sell laurabolin for 150dolaros to kidos around...he got this EXACT LOOK ,,they are always stuck at 230-240lb on hormones.. compete at 190... and sometime blow up on slin to 250... they alwys around 8-14% bodyfat,,,they always tell everyone they are 12...even when they are 8% because they got fat from within the muscle mainly and the water thickness from hormonal usage on regular basis,,

groink is PRIME example of a fella that been to hormones for many many years,,he is prime example of someone who got the type of physiqe that creams hormones,,he is also prime example of someone who would use testosterona suspension just to see how it blow him up...

his changes can be dramatic because! only hormone changes can be dramatic,,he lose very little muscle because! only hormone changes can keep most if not all muscle on you while losing water and fat,,

there is no ifs or buts,,there is no someone clean ,, natural was long long gone but this is far from clean ,,this is hormonized on EVERY DAY BASIS ,,every week if longer esters which is common with the dealer look i wias talking about,,

those specific looks alway look worse than kreator on stage because what you see on kreator is LEAN MUSCLE 99.5% LEAN MUSCLE,,on groinhk he would have to get down in weight to the 200lb zone inorder to show something that resemble kreator and even then ....he wont be as shreded ,,for that driness he will have to be 190-195...,,it will be equivalent to kreator height wize proportions even little bigger due to heigh difference but still not as dy ,,the kreator fella got thin skin geneticaly and will look always better due to his skin type...only way to look  better than him is getting to same bodyfat as him and be paralel to him in weight/size/height ratio ...7lb per inch


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LMAO at MISSY..haven't been called that for some time. GH, I didn't say Groink could walk on stage did I? NO.

BUT GH, IF groink wanted to do a thong fest, right dieting and "supps" you can't deny he could be a BIGGER fucker than he is.

Like I said, they both have different looks. Both look great IMO.

[Parker]

I knew a dude who had whip scorpions...

A lonely  dude he was...playing with bugs all the time...

And by the way, Groink has pretty good arms...
Arm Don....

[dj181]

God and dogbowl are correct, once one hits sub-8 then the magic begins

[brent2741]

Thats ridiculous...comparing Natural and geared up is liking comparing a showroom car to an F1 car

i think you missed my point, my point was being natural over geared doesnt really entitle you to anything special, some people wear their "natural" status as a badge of honor i just dont get it, im not comparing the physiques themselves just the attitudes that go along with it

[Man of Steel]

Gorgeous....absolutely gorgeous

[The Abdominal Snoman]

LMAO at MISSY..haven't been called that for some time. GH, I didn't say Groink could walk on stage did I? NO.

BUT GH, IF groink wanted to do a thong fest, right dieting and "supps" you can't deny he could be a BIGGER fucker than he is.

Like I said, they both have different looks. Both look great IMO.

Too old. His genetic response to pro level hormones would most likely just destroy his organs completely.