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In spirit of 33333's obsession..... :D

What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?




What is Donald Trump hiding?

The multimillionaire developer has, overnight, become a leading voice of the “birther” movement, members of which doubt that President Barack Obama was born in the United States (and, thus, is unable to produce an authentic U.S. birth certificate).

“It’s inconceivable that, after four years of questioning, the president still hasn’t produced his birth certificate,” Trump told Newsmax. “I’m just asking President Obama to show the public his birth certificate. Why’s he making an issue out of this?" To prove how easy it was for a household employee to find his birth certificate, Trump, 64, crowed, “It took me one hour to get my birth certificate.”

As seen above, he provided the conservative web site with what he purports to be his birth certificate.

Except the document is not an official New York City birth certificate, but rather a document generated by Jamaica Hospital, where Trump’s mother Mary reportedly gave birth in June 1946. Official birth certificates are issued (and maintained) by the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene’s Office of Vital Records.

So, what is Trump trying to conceal?

On a possibly related note, Jamaica Hospital has been the recipient of significant financial largesse from the Trump family. In fact, the Queens institution includes the Trump Pavilion, a nursing and rehabilitation facility that was named for Mary Trump.

[If The Donald wants to hunt in his sock drawer for the official birth certificate, he should look for a document that includes an official Department of Health stamp and resembles city forms like ones used decades ago, like this or this.]

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Re: What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2011, 09:13:27 AM »
Let's apply some of 33333's CT logic to this a little bit shall we?

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On a possibly related note, Jamaica Hospital has been the recipient of significant financial largesse from the Trump family. In fact, the Queens institution includes the Trump Pavilion, a nursing and rehabilitation facility that was named for Mary Trump.

Imagine that!

He got that unofficial birth certificate from a hospital he contributes to and even have a pavilion named after him.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2011, 09:13:55 AM »
Trump is playing this brilliantly.   Wait - its called rope a dope.    

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Re: What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2011, 09:14:40 AM »
Trump is playing this brilliantly.   Wait - its called rope a dope.    

Trump has about as much chance of getting elected to President as Ron Paul.

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Re: What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2011, 09:15:15 AM »
Let's apply some of 33333's CT logic to this a little bit shall we?

Imagine that!

He got that unofficial birth certificate from a hospital he contributes to and even have a pavilion named after him.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

And when he releases te official long form BC from NYC than what?  

At least this BC has a doctor, nurse, and location.  Obama does not even say what hospital he was born at and there ar conflicting accounts from his own family  

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Re: What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2011, 09:18:15 AM »
And when he releases te official long form BC from NYC than what?  


Nothing.  Only Birthers will waste their time with this. 

Until, new evidence comes to light, Birthers are becoming no more different in my mind than truthers. 

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Re: What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2011, 10:20:01 AM »
Nothing.  Only Birthers will waste their time with this. 

Until, new evidence comes to light, Birthers are becoming no more different in my mind than truthers. 
i support all the birthers and they need to keep front and center.
(takes their minds off other things)
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Re: What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2011, 10:29:35 AM »
Doh!   :)

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Re: What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2011, 11:36:23 AM »
OK OBAMA FANS - YOUR TURN.

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Take Two: Donald Trump Releases Official Birth Certificate
March 29, 2011 1:11 PM


News Michael Falcone reports:

Donald Trump learned the hard way this week that if you're going to call on the president to release his official birth certificate, you'd better do the same.

Trump, who has been putting pressure on Obama lately to make public his long-form birth certificate from Hawaii, decided to set a good example and release his own on Monday. Only problem was, the document that Trump provided to the conservative Website Newsmax wasn't his actual birth certificate, but rather a  "hospital certificate of birth."

On Tuesday, Trump, who is contemplating a presidential run in 2012, sought to correct the oversight, providing a copy of his official birth certificate issued by the New York City Department of Health to ABC News.




See a larger version HERE.

It shows that "Donald John Trump" was born June 14, 1946 in Jamaica Hospital in Queens.It lists his father as Fred C. Trump and his mother as Mary Mac Leod. The date of the report is listed as June 14, 1946.

The image came with an accompanying memo from a member of Trump's staff.

"A 'birth certificate' and a 'certificate of live birth' are in no way the same thing, even though in some cases they use some of the same words," wrote Trump staffer Thuy Colayco in a message to ABC News. "One officially confirms and records a newborn child’s identity and details of his or her birth, while the other only confirms that someone reported the birth of a child. Also, a 'certificate of live birth' is very easy to get because the standards are much lower, while a 'birth certificate' is only gotten through a long and detailed process wherein identity must be proved beyond any doubt. If you had only a certificate of live birth, you would not be able to get a proper passport from the Post Office or a driver’s license from the Department of Motor Vehicles. Therefore, there is very significant difference between a 'certificate of live birth' and a 'birth certificate' and one should never be confused with the other."

(Click Here to see a photo of Donald Trump's hospital certificate of birth, obtained by the Newsmax on Monday.)

Trump has been turning up the volume on his calls for Obama, who has been the target of allegations that he was not born in the United States by so-called "birthers," to release his official birth certificate.

"This guy either has a birth certificate or he doesn't," Trump said in an interview on Fox News on Monday. "I didn't think this was such a big deal, but I will tell you, it's turning out to be a very big deal because people now are calling me from all over saying please don't give up on this issue."

The Obama campaign released a "certification of live birth," which is a shorter document that carries the same legal weight as the long one, in 2008.

Trump has brought up the issue again and again. In a recent interview with ABC's "The View," he said that Obama has "a terrible pale that's hanging over with him" because of his refusal to release the document.

Michael Cohen, an executive at the Trump Organization, who has been leading a "Draft Trump" movement insisted that his boss was not a "birther," but rather was attempting to hold the Obama administration, which rode into offices on promises of transparency, accountable.

The misstep, however, indicates how perilous a path this line of attack might be to any of the potential 2012 presidential candidates who choose to pursue it. Already one likely Republican contender, Tim Pawlenty, indicated that Trump’s emphasis on the issue was unwise.

“I, for one, do not believe we should be raising that issue," the former Minnesota governor said in an interview MSNBC on Tuesday. "I think President Obama was born in the United States."

Trump discussed his calls for Obama to release his official birth certificate on ABC's "The View" last week:

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Re: What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2011, 11:38:43 AM »
trump - distraction.

people who celebrate his chances for being elected - helping obama.

that is all.

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Re: What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2011, 11:41:08 AM »
trump - distraction.

people who celebrate his chances for being elected - helping obama.

that is all.

If he can be the foil and drag obama down and get him ousted from office on this alone, he will be forever a hero of mine for provingobaa to be the fraud and imposter we al said he was from day 1. 

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Re: What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2011, 11:42:19 AM »
I'll show you mine so you must show me yours?

The President of the United States is supposed to follow the beck of a silver spooned media whore?

 ::)

more CT garbage.

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Re: What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2011, 11:50:47 AM »
I'll show you mine so you must show me yours?

The President of the United States is supposed to follow the beck of a silver spooned media whore?

 ::)

more CT garbage.

No, but there is a little thing called the NBC requirement of the U.S. Const. that Obama still has no proven.   

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Re: What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2011, 12:02:18 PM »
Trump isn't going to be the next President, but if he can bring up the BC issue enough, it puts pressure on Obama to talk about it.  Either he shows the BC or 60% of the country will believe he's not a NBC. 

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Re: What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2011, 12:06:03 PM »
I'll show you mine so you must show me yours?
The President of the United States is supposed to follow the beck of a silver spooned media whore?

you don't swing down. 

besides, trump has bene doing this shit foe 2 decades now.  he's got the media machine thing down pat.  Given the fact he has SO MANY LIB POSITIONS in 2000 that he had claimed he believed all his life, I have to believe he's STILL a liberal.  He's just playing up the tea party talking points cause they're popular.  Like Romney is.  Like Rudy.

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Re: What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2011, 12:21:49 PM »
No, but there is a little thing called the NBC requirement of the U.S. Const. that Obama still has no proven.   

Again good enough for the real power people who would have everything to gain from proving Bama was not born here.  but now, it's only good enough for your garden variety CT'er.

I can see now why you commonly agree with some of Sammy's posts. 

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« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2011, 12:24:08 PM »
Again good enough for the real power people who would have everything to gain from proving Bama was not born here.  but now, it's only good enough for your garden variety CT'er.

I can see now why you commonly agree with some of Sammy's posts. 


 ::)  ::)  Why do you think he has spent MILLIONS defending these lawsuits on the standing issue and not the merits when he could put this to rest for $10? 

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Re: What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2011, 12:26:16 PM »

 ::)  ::)  Why do you think he has spent MILLIONS defending these lawsuits on the standing issue and not the merits when he could put this to rest for $10? 

Another CT'er argument.   ::)

Why do you think there was only one 9/11 investigation?

why do you think they go rid of all the WTC debris so fast?

why do you think there was no wreckage on flight 93?

blah blah blah

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Re: What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2011, 12:27:28 PM »
Yeah, you cant answer that can you?


Who spends millions on lawyers to conceal what can be released for $10? 

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Re: What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2011, 12:29:48 PM »
Yeah, you cant answer that can you?


Who spends millions on lawyers to conceal what can be released for $10? 

Another CT'er argument.  ::)

Of course i can't answer, 33333.  I am not Barrack Obama.


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Re: What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2011, 12:40:28 PM »
Yeah, you cant answer that can you?


Who spends millions on lawyers to conceal what can be released for $10? 

How do you know he's spent millions to conceal anything?

Show me the legal bills.

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Re: What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2011, 12:44:26 PM »
33,

i'm a birther.  i think he was born in kenya.  I am sure the reason he went to hawaii 5 min after being elected, and the reason there was a power outage, and why rahm went to kenya that same week, was to cover shit up.

BUT I can admit there is zero evidence he's spent millions on the birther issue.

You post his ENTIRE LEGAL FEES for running AND BEING president.  The birther issue could be 1% of that, or 99% of that.  Neither of us know.  And since we can list a shitload of people who sue obama, and about 5 birthers... I'd say your assumption is even weak.

Just drop that "million in legal fees AGAINST THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE ISSUE", cause it's completely false.



So please, stop already, you're embarassing the birthers among us who know it's a non-issue lol!

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Re: What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2011, 12:44:33 PM »
How do you know he's spent millions to conceal anything?

Show me the legal bills.

I have!   He has paid 2.7 Million to the law firm so far who is representing him in all the birther lawsuits across the country.  They are not working pro bono on this and trying to defeat every claim on the standing of the plaintiffs, not the merits of the action.  


Again - who spends millions to cover up what can be released for $10?  


Common fucking sense.  But then again this is obamanomics at work so it might gel for him.          

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Re: What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2011, 12:46:11 PM »
I have!   He has paid 2.7 Million to the law firm so far who is representing him in all the birther lawsuits across the country.

They handle other cases (outside of the birther cases) also, don't they?  ;)

Again - who spends millions to cover up what can be released for $10?   

If his 3rd name is Muhammed as some suggest it will say, he will lose 5 million votes.  Instantly.  You know this, mannnn.

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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2011, 12:47:18 PM »
They handle other cases (outside of the birther cases) also, don't they?  ;)

If his 3rd name is Muhammed as some suggest it will say, he will lose 5 million votes.  Instantly.  You know this, mannnn.

As if the middle name is not enough?   ;D