What Is Donald Trump, Newborn Birther, Trying To Hide From Us?

[240 is Back]

Swing and a miss.

You're batting close to .000 lately, RINO.

[Grape Ape]

Damaging? I don't understand... Either he is legally allowed to be President or he's not.

Isn't this about legality? Damaging, means some personal info he doesn't want out that is not necessarily against him be eligible for the office?

Either the dude is legally allowed to be President or he's not... There's other shit we're worried about?

I haven't read the whole thread so I apologize if this has been covered.

I think it could be an issue other than legality.

For instance, the BC could list that he is a Muslim.  If it does, it's on there because his father was a Muslim, and that's only logical.   The easy answer is to say that many people may have a certain religious denomination on their BC that they don't/never did practice.  That would be fine.

But, since he chose to hide it, he can't go that route, because he'd be questioned as to why he did.  So he'd be stuck and it would damage him further.

There's something there he doesn't want public.

[240 is Back]

I haven't read the whole thread so I apologize if this has been covered.

I think it could be an issue other than legality.

For instance, the BC could list that he is a Muslim.  If it does, it's on there because his father was a Muslim, and that's only logical.   The easy answer is to say that many people may have a certain religious denomination on their BC that they don't/never did practice.  That would be fine.

But, since he chose to hide it, he can't go that route, because he'd be questioned as to why he did.  So he'd be stuck and it would damage him further.

There's something there he doesn't want public.

IF this is the case -

then obama is legally president, and has zero responsibility to publish it.  If we have nothing more than rabid repubs, screaming "look, it says muslim on it!".... then they want it solely for political gain.

if that's the case, why would obama hand them 5 million votes by publishing it?  They're NOT going to say "ok, he lives here, let's move on".
Nope.

They're going to look for anything that points muslim, then they'll talk about that for the next 2 years.


So while I think his ass WAS BORN IN KENYA... i also think the repubs screaming abuot it want it so they can beat him in 2012 not because he's legal/illegal, but because they want to let their 527's scream bout "look, he's a muslim" over and over.

[Grape Ape]

IF this is the case -

then obama is legally president, and has zero responsibility to publish it. 

Whether he's legal or not has nothing to do with his responsibility to publish it.

[OzmO]

It's pretty telling that this is the most active thread on this board over the last four days. Pathetic.

Far be it for the far-lefties to actually focus on something worthwhile.

Umm dude, 333333 is by far the leader of the birther movement on this board.  Is he far left?

In fact, as 33333 and i have often talked about, he does splatter the board with all kinds of petty stuff. 

[Soul Crusher]

Umm dude, 333333 is by far the leader of the birther movement on this board.  Is he far left?

I have many other threads going with great info and articles that never go commented on.   I take time to update many threads with a ton of good articles that a few people read but are not commented on.   

So, while this may be a circus act issue, its but one of hundreds of others I post on and about.

The fact that it so obviously shines light on the ludicrousness of the obama presidency is not my fault, its that of obama and those who voted for this and still support it.   


Feel free to engage in a debate on the hundreds of other things I post.       

[OzmO]

I have many other threads going with great info and articles that never go commented on.   I take time to update many threads with a ton of good articles that a few people read but are not commented on.   

So, while this may be a circus act issue, its but one of hundreds of others I post on and about.

The fact that it so obviously shines light on the ludicrousness of the obama presidency is not my fault, its that of obama and those who voted for this and still support it.   

Feel free to engage in a debate on the hundreds of other things I post.       

You do!

You do!

You do!

and i appreciate and recognize you for that!

But you are the main man for the birther movement here. 

[Soul Crusher]

Its in the news and being discussed all over the place.    I really am not that arrogant to believe my posts on getbig political are driving the headlines at foxnews, NYT, WAPO, DRUDGE, Etc. 

I try to keep my posts relevant and germain to the current national debate.   

[240 is Back]

mods,

why is'nt the birther stuff moved to the CT board?

[Soul Crusher]

mods,

why is'nt the birther stuff moved to the CT board?

Because its not a CT!

Its discussed on BOR, WAPO, everywhere.   its part of the current political debate.   

[240 is Back]

Because its not a CT!

Its discussed on BOR, WAPO, everywhere.   its part of the current political debate.   

I see.

911 is the sole basis for the war in afghanistan, an ongoing war.

If there is any chance it was a "let it happen" or WTC7 was demo'd, then that undermines the motive for a US war.  That's HUGE.  So let's move all the 911 threads back here, then?

[Soul Crusher]

I see.

911 is the sole basis for the war in afghanistan, an ongoing war.

If there is any chance it was a "let it happen" or WTC7 was demo'd, then that undermines the motive for a US war.  That's HUGE.  So let's move all the 911 threads back here, then?

Are 911 CT's discussed on BOR nightly?  The View? 


whether you like it or not - Trump has gotten bama's likely foreign birth on the mainstream news outlets for discussion.     

[OzmO]

Its in the news and being discussed all over the place.    I really am not that arrogant to believe my posts on getbig political are driving the headlines at foxnews, NYT, WAPO, DRUDGE, Etc. 

I try to keep my posts relevant and germain to the current national debate.   

Driving the headlines?  Over stuff like Lybia, the economy, healthcare, Afghanistan etc...

And just think Bama bracket stuff gets play by the right too. Lol

[OzmO]

Are 911 CT's discussed on BOR nightly?  The View? 


whether you like it or not - Trump has gotten bama's likely foreign birth on the mainstream news outlets for discussion.     

For the moment.

[OzmO]

mods,

why is'nt the birther stuff moved to the CT board?

 I could, but it has a lot of political relevance at the moment and it's still debatable as to whether or Not it's a CT.  Although I think it is.  So for the meantime it will stay.

[OzmO]

For the record, I would want the info released.  My take is, there are some misdoings he is covering up that could damage him politically, but not COB issues.  Again, I could be wrong and I do believe the possibility exists that there nothing to hide and it's political maneuver saved for another day.

Either way I do hope it does become an issue during the 2012 election.

[Dos Equis]

I could, but it has a lot of political relevance at the moment and it's still debatable as to whether or Not it's a CT.  Although I think it is.  So for the meantime it will stay.

I don't care one way or the other, but it's notable that not one potential presidential candidate is talking about the sinister conspiracy to shoot a missile into the Pentagon, fake a plane crash, and kidnap and murder civilians in broad daylight.

I think this is really a non-issue, but at least Trump doesn't sound like he's coo coo for cocoa puffs.  

[Soul Crusher]

For the record, I would want the info released.  My take is, there are some misdoings he is covering up that could damage him politically, but not COB issues.  Again, I could be wrong and I do believe the possibility exists that there nothing to hide and it's political maneuver saved for another day.

Either way I do hope it does become an issue during the 2012 election.

Ok, fine, but if that is the case and he is playing games with this, is that really something to be admired or condoned on any level while people are discussing this for four years now?    if thats the case, he has wasted court time, media time, and the time of many when for $10 he can just end this whole mystery.   

[OzmO]

Ok, fine, but if that is the case and he is playing games with this, is that really something to be admired or condoned on any level while people are discussing this for four years now?    if thats the case, he has wasted court time, media time, and the time of many when for $10 he can just end this whole mystery.   

What politician hasn't grandstanded some useless issue wasting everyone's time at one time or another.  But I agree.

[Dos Equis]

Trump warns of 'greatest scam' ever
By: CNN Political Unit

(CNN) – It's official: Donald Trump is a "birther." But he'd prefer you don't use that term.

Speaking to MSNBC Thursday, the business mogul and improbable presidential candidate reiterated much of what he has said in the last several days when it comes to doubting President Obama's birthplace, declaring, "I am embracing the issue, and I'm proud of the issue. I think somebody has to embrace it."

Trump, who in the last two weeks has raised the debunked issue on several programs, added he finds the term "birther" downright insulting.

"I don't like the name birther," he said. "I think it's very unfair and derogatory to a lot of good people that happen to think there is a possibility that this man was not born in this country."

Trump added he will continue to press the issue because, "If it were true, it'd be the greatest scam in the history of this country."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/31/trump-warns-of-greatest-scam-ever/#more-152312

[Soul Crusher]

Trump warns of 'greatest scam' ever
By: CNN Political Unit

(CNN) – It's official: Donald Trump is a "birther." But he'd prefer you don't use that term.

Speaking to MSNBC Thursday, the business mogul and improbable presidential candidate reiterated much of what he has said in the last several days when it comes to doubting President Obama's birthplace, declaring, "I am embracing the issue, and I'm proud of the issue. I think somebody has to embrace it."

Trump, who in the last two weeks has raised the debunked issue on several programs, added he finds the term "birther" downright insulting.

"I don't like the name birther," he said. "I think it's very unfair and derogatory to a lot of good people that happen to think there is a possibility that this man was not born in this country."

Trump added he will continue to press the issue because, "If it were true, it'd be the greatest scam in the history of this country."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/31/trump-warns-of-greatest-scam-ever/#more-152312

Awesome!   


I too am proud to be a birther.   

Birthers of the world unite! 

[George Whorewell]

Sorry I misunderstood.  You said: 

I am not and I don't recall ever saying anything like that.  Maybe i did.  But i don't think so.  But i did proclaim on another threads, and i was specifically talking about CT's, that i was a skeptic.  Also i have proclaimed myself the middle mod, neither right or left.  So thinking i was referring to my political leanings when i said skeptic is very incorrect.  So you see where i came up with the strike?  Really, if you think about it, its like 2 strikes, but i am being conservative.    So, sorry again.  Maybe i read it wrong.   

You could be right, I may have assumed that you were talking about me when you weren't until i read this:

So you didn't when you did call me one? 

Isn't that kind of what you were talking about when you use the word "those"?  Or is that different one of your typecast groups?

Additionally, I am not sure you are aware, even casual and traditional people believe in CT's and follow them not just radicals.   

On to the races.....

You haven't said anything racist on this thread.  You know that.  You also know i wasn't talking about that when i first said it:

(What i was telling you was, in a round about way, is that you are no different than a extreme lib, hate blurring your vision.)

But you have posted many times using the words or phrase "pavement ape".  And frankly that's pretty despicable that you would use racism in your posts becuase..............  how did you put it? 

Is that why you put racist slurs in your threads?  Or am i mistaken?  If i am I apologize.  Where you trying to be funny when put racist slurs in your threads?  Are you trying to make some sort of statement?  Just wondering.

No George, i don't think you are surrounded by morons and mindless children- pseudo intellectuals and "self proclaimed skepticks" that aren't skeptical of anything.  You just think you are. 

A lot going on here. I'll just address my alleged racist rants. The term pavement ape isn't something that I came up with. Someone on the G+O board coined the phrase and I stole it. I think it’s pretty hysterical to be honest with you. Not because it disparages American blacks, but because it’s an original insult that I had never heard before. I never use any racist commentary except when I am dealing with anti-white racists; Ie Betty Blanco, SAMSON and the like (or when I am commenting on a youtube video of blacks ganging up on a white lady and her son, news stories about black’s gang raping 11 year old girls, black panthers intimidating voters etc.). As far as I am concerned, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. So if you are not above calling them out on it, you can kiss my despicable ass for following suit. On other occasions I am trying to be funny-- I would never randomly make a racist comment unless it was warranted or had strong comedic value. I would say that the only group I am against completely (and if it makes you better to call me a racist so be it) is the Islamic plague. Everyone else I judge on a completely individual basis.

[OzmO]

A lot going on here. I'll just address my alleged racist rants. The term pavement ape isn't something that I came up with. Someone on the G+O board coined the phrase and I stole it. I think it’s pretty hysterical to be honest with you. Not because it disparages American blacks, but because it’s an original insult that I had never heard before. I never use any racist commentary except when I am dealing with anti-white racists; Ie Betty Blanco, SAMSON and the like (or when I am commenting on a youtube video of blacks ganging up on a white lady and her son, news stories about black’s gang raping 11 year old girls, black panthers intimidating voters etc.). As far as I am concerned, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. So if you are not above calling them out on it, you can kiss my despicable ass for following suit. On other occasions I am trying to be funny-- I would never randomly make a racist comment unless it was warranted or had strong comedic value. I would say that the only group I am against completely (and if it makes you better to call me a racist so be it) is the Islamic plague. Everyone else I judge on a completely individual basis.

From the get go i thought it was a fairly borderline racist slur and considered whether i should ask you not to post it anymore.  Then yesterday i looked it up on google.  Because until yesterday i had no idea how derogatory and racist it was.  So just to be clear I'll have to ask you not to post that phrase or term any more on this board. 

Thanks.

[Soul Crusher]

Is "hood rat" any better?

[OzmO]

Is "hood rat" any better?

I don't know that i have ever heard "hood rat" connected with a racist slur.  But i could be wrong.  Remember, I live in California and I don't have any racist friends or hang out with outwardly racist people.