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By James Wesley, Rawles on March 30, 2011 8:28 PM

I’ve been in law enforcement for the past 18 years. I have attended a variety of training over those years. During the 1990s, most training I attended was community-oriented, sponsored by local agencies or private companies specializing in police training. Themes common to training of the past included topics such as Constitutional rights, community partnerships, youth-oriented programs and problem-oriented policing.

During the past several years, I have witnessed a dramatic shift in the focus of law enforcement training. Law enforcement courses have moved away from a local community focus to a federally dominated model of complete social control. Most training I have attended over the past two years have been sponsored by Department of Homeland Security (DHS), namely the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) and Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA).

No matter what topic the training session concerns, every DHS sponsored course I have attended over the past few years never fails to branch off into warnings about potential domestic terrorists in the community. While this may sound like a valid officer and community safety issue, you may be disturbed to learn how our Federal government describes a typical domestic terrorist.

These federal trainers describe the dangers of “extremists” and “militia groups” roaming the community and hiding in plain sight, ready to attack. Officers are instructed how to recognize these domestic terrorists by their behavior, views and common characteristics. State data bases are kept to track suspected domestic terrorists and officers are instructed on reporting procedures to state and federal agencies. The state I work in, like many others, have what is known as a “fusion center” that compiles a watch list of suspicious people.

So how does a person qualify as a potential domestic terrorist? Based on the training I have attended, here are characteristics that qualify:

  • Expressions of libertarian philosophies (statements, bumper stickers)
  • Second Amendment-oriented views (NRA or gun club membership, holding a CCW permit)
  • Survivalist literature (fictional books such as "Patriots" and "One Second After" are mentioned by name)
  • Self-sufficiency (stockpiling food, ammo, hand tools, medical supplies)
  • Fear of economic collapse (buying gold and barter items)
  • Religious views concerning the book of Revelation (apocalypse, anti-Christ)
  • Expressed fears of Big Brother or big government
  • Homeschooling
  • Declarations of Constitutional rights and civil liberties
  • Belief in a New World Order conspiracy

A recent training session I attended encouraged law enforcement agencies to work with business owners to alert police when customers appear to be stockpiling items. An example was given that a federal agent was monitoring customers at a well known hunting and fishing retail outlet and noting who was purchasing certain items. This is something to remember the next time you purchase a case of ammo at one of these popular outdoor sports retail stores.

Methods of developing evidence of terrorist activity from virtually any search have also been discussed. Various common materials which may be associated with homemade explosives are listed, such as lengths of pipe, gunpowder, matches, flammable liquids and fireworks. Officers are told when these items are found, they can be listed as “bomb making materials”. The training even goes so far as to instruct officers that the items are cleverly disguised as legitimate, such as gasoline stored near a lawn mower, pipes stored in a shop building or gunpowder stored with reloading materials.

One course I attended used the example of a person employed as a plumber being the target of a search warrant. In this example, the officers were told how to use his employment as a plumber as further evidence of terrorism. The suspect’s employment would be described as an elaborate scheme to justify possessing pipes and chemicals so as to have bomb making materials readily available. Based on this example, all plumbers are potential pipe bomb makers. All gun dealers are plotting to provide arms to gangs or terrorists. All pest control companies are preparing mass poisonings. By using this logic, simply having the ability to do something criminal automatically makes the person guilty of plotting the crime. With all the various methods of manufacturing methamphetamine, it would also be easy to claim that a disassembled clandestine drug lab was located during the search. In other words, it is easy to frame anyone for possessing bomb making materials (or other crimes) if the officer knows what items to list in the report and how to link these items to terrorism.

Another common tactic used in DHS sponsored training is the slander of certain ideologies by linking an erroneous characteristic to a particular group. Here are some examples:

These groups hold the anniversaries of certain dates as significant such a Ruby Ridge, Waco and Hitler’s birthday
They oppose abortion, support gun rights and are affiliated with the Ku Klux Klan
They are fearful of big government, espouse support for the Constitution and want to kill police officers
These groups collect firearms, survivalist books and explosives
These extremists read books such as Patriots, One Second After and The Anarchist Cookbook
They are religious zealots, reading the book of Revelation, speak of the second coming of Christ and plan mass murders to summon the end of the world
These people grow their own food, raise livestock and plot attacks on commercial food production facilities

Do you see how this tactic works? List common characteristics of libertarian/conservative minded people, then throw in a slanderous accusation. If A and B apply, then you should automatically presume C applies as well. If they were disturbed by the incidents at Ruby Ridge and Waco, then obviously they must celebrate Hitler’s birthday. Officers are being conditioned to assume criminal and terroristic views when politically-incorrect views are observed. As simple-minded and ridiculous as this line of thinking is, there are some officers who unfortunately buy into this.

Another training session I attended two years ago discussed the dangerous of people who have strong views of the U.S. Constitution. One trainer made the statement that “these people actually believe the Second Amendment gives them the personal right to own a gun.” Of course, the trainer failed to mention that our Founding Fathers, as well as recent Supreme Court rulings, verify this view as being completely accurate. The obvious attempt here was to suggest to officers that the Second Amendment does not apply to individual gun ownership and to be suspicious of anyone who holds such a view. It was also stressed to be cautious of anyone who quotes the Constitution and even worse, actually possesses a copy of this radical document. Incredibly, in the United States of America today belief in our founding legal principles is now grounds for being labeled a domestic terrorism. Imagine how they would respond to some of the known statements of Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry or George Mason concerning the issue of individual liberty and limited government. It is true that one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.

http://www.survivalblog.com/2011/03/beware_of_homeland_security_tr.html

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Re: DHS, "You are a potential terrorist if you exhibit these traits"
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2011, 01:24:43 AM »
  Old news.

  And I proudly fit into all of those categories.

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Re: DHS, "You are a potential terrorist if you exhibit these traits"
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2011, 01:44:45 AM »
  Old news.

  And I proudly fit into all of those categories.
I posted some similar stuff way back but I think this cop just wrote this.

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Re: DHS, "You are a potential terrorist if you exhibit these traits"
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2011, 02:56:56 AM »
Did you read that story what dhs did is iowa that had to be cancelled?

Btw - this is more obama holder thomas perez doj  bullshit.

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Re: DHS, "You are a potential terrorist if you exhibit these traits"
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2011, 04:12:38 AM »
lmao well they didnt leave anybody out did they

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Re: DHS, "You are a potential terrorist if you exhibit these traits"
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2011, 04:42:53 AM »
does this mean one can take the opposite of this list to identify DHS employees? ;D


1.  Expressions of Totalitarian philosophies (statements, videos playing in stores)

2.  anti Second Amendment-oriented views

3.  Orwellian literature (fictional books such as "1984" and "Fahrenheit 451" are mentioned as goals)

4.  expects population to be 100% subservient(stockpiled food, ammo, hand tools, medical supplies confiscated from people.)

5.  No Fear of economic collapse (only use devalued paper money)

6.  No Religious views.  (apocalypse what, anti-who?)

7.  Expressed fears of almost every citizen or group not working for the gov.

8.  Believes only in public schools meant to dumb down kids and hook them on drugs.

9.  Doesn't know what Constitutional rights and civil liberties are.

10.  Goal is a New World Order

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Re: DHS, "You are a potential terrorist if you exhibit these traits"
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2011, 04:49:08 AM »
Are birthers potential terrorists? 

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Re: DHS, "You are a potential terrorist if you exhibit these traits"
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2011, 05:29:42 AM »
I'm seeing a lot more DTOM flags and stickers around my nabe lately. 

Must be domestic terrorists.

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Re: DHS, "You are a potential terrorist if you exhibit these traits"
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2011, 06:01:51 AM »
lmao well they didnt leave anybody out did they

They seem to have left out those with neo-Liberal, left-wing, atheist, socialist views.

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Re: DHS, "You are a potential terrorist if you exhibit these traits"
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2011, 06:24:46 AM »
Janet Napalitano aka "Big Sis" is a joke.  What could she possibly know about national security?  I hope Jesse Ventura's lawsuit against the TSA is successful.  The sheeple need to stop letting themselves be herded into the naked body scanners at the airport and practice some civil disobediance.  That is the only way to stop them.  Most sheeple don't even know what their 4th amendment rights are though so they just go along with what the goverment tells them.  Welcome to 1984 everyone.
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Re: DHS, "You are a potential terrorist if you exhibit these traits"
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2011, 06:49:23 PM »
I'm seeing a lot more DTOM flags and stickers around my nabe lately. 

Must be domestic terrorists.

  I have bumper stickers that say Ron Paul Was Right, Fox News Sucks, Work Harder--Millions On Welfare Are Counting On You, and another one promoting the Constitution Party. People probably think I have a C4 bomb in my trunk.

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Re: DHS, "You are a potential terrorist if you exhibit these traits"
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2011, 06:53:09 PM »
  I have bumper stickers that say Ron Paul Was Right, Fox News Sucks, Work Harder--Millions On Welfare Are Counting On You, and another one promoting the Constitution Party. People probably think I have a C4 bomb in my trunk.

Ha ha ha ha - did you see Rand Paul attacking Fox News today? 

I hate fox news.  Its mostly nonsense other than brett bair and greta. 

I live in the bronx where MILLIONS ARE ON WELFARE!  I dont want to give these people any ideas.   ;D

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Re: DHS, "You are a potential terrorist if you exhibit these traits"
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2011, 07:18:12 AM »
I find that list of "domestic terrorist" traits a little strange ::)

Lets see there was this guy with a bomb in his under ware, oh wait Nigerian Muslim

Then there was this guy that tried use a car bomb in time square - whoops Pakistani Muslim

I could go on but I think you get the point.
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Re: DHS, "You are a potential terrorist if you exhibit these traits"
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2011, 07:25:53 AM »
I find that list of "domestic terrorist" traits a little strange ::)

Lets see there was this guy with a bomb in his under ware, oh wait Nigerian Muslim

Then there was this guy that tried use a car bomb in time square - whoops Pakistani Muslim

I could go on but I think you get the point.
You make an excellent point!!!!!!  Domestic terrorists are rare as fuck.  So since they are so rare, why is DHS going around the country schooling law enforcement on domestic terrorist traits that sound like normal American traits? 

I'm from Colorado/Wyoming.  Here in Wyoming most of the people match most of the list DHS gave.  Do they really fucking think that all of Wyoming is a fucking terrorist state?  good god man...  It's time for a president like Ron Paul and time for agencies like DHS and ATF to be abolished. 

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Re: DHS, "You are a potential terrorist if you exhibit these traits"
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2011, 07:34:37 AM »
You make an excellent point!!!!!!  Domestic terrorists are rare as fuck.  So since they are so rare, why is DHS going around the country schooling law enforcement on domestic terrorist traits that sound like normal American traits? 

I'm from Colorado/Wyoming.  Here in Wyoming most of the people match most of the list DHS gave.  Do they really fucking think that all of Wyoming is a fucking terrorist state?  good god man...  It's time for a president like Ron Paul and time for agencies like DHS and ATF to be abolished. 

It is a list of traits of people that would be potential "trouble makers", gotta get them out of the way before you can truly control the sheeple
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Re: DHS, "You are a potential terrorist if you exhibit these traits"
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2011, 08:51:40 AM »
I'm seeing a lot more DTOM flags and stickers around my nabe lately. 

Must be domestic terrorists.

I heard those were added to the list a while back...