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Re: HELP: Need guidance/tips on current nuntrition/training
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2011, 04:46:14 AM »
Hehe good one, In his day (1980's) powerlifters and strongmen often looked like offseason boybuilders and it was good entertainment, nowadays...like the complaints on bodybuilding, the PL and strongmen leagues have changed significantly for the worse over the last 20 yrs too...or lets say went ahead too far.. lot of fat people that look to have serious health issues
I used to powerlift back in the early 1970`s,the big old 132 pound class,the lifts done today would hardly get passed!! 

They fucked up a great sport with all the supportive gear they wear these days. :(

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« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2011, 04:46:54 AM »
Good advices for Wes in this thread.

I like my carbs before and after training tho, but I have never been as lean as tim

I might switch things up  8)

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Re: HELP: Need guidance/tips on current nuntrition/training
« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2011, 04:47:26 AM »
Just up the Clen a bit, then it's ok.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
There ya` go!  ;D

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Re: HELP: Need guidance/tips on current nuntrition/training
« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2011, 04:49:55 AM »
I only do the 3 zero carb days occasionally, or if I get stuck at a plateau as far as fat burning is concerned.

I don`t count  veggies as a carb source, and I don`t eat any fruit while dieting.........too much sugar.

I do however count complex carbs from vegetable sources,ie. (potatoes,rice,yams,oatmeal,etc.),but you probably already assumed this but just in case.  :)

Remember,I do this for contests not just to lose weight,so a piece of fruit a day probably isn`t going to hurt you.

Yes exactly! For me, with my diet indicated above I would have to cut out oatmeal for breakfast and rice for the other meal.

re fruit: I used to skip fruit too but since I train late in the day and basically go to bed after my post workout meal thus not want to eat a huge meal, that I should take as a post workout meal a proteinshake?vits+minerals and a banana for the sugar to improve absorbation of it all..  should I skip the bananas

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Re: HELP: Need guidance/tips on current nuntrition/training
« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2011, 04:51:23 AM »
I used to powerlift back in the early 1970`s,the big old 132 pound class,the lifts done today would hardly get passed!! 

They fucked up a great sport with all the supportive gear they wear these days. :(

bench pressing shirts, maybe they shoudl just use fucking forklifts.


Good advices for Wes in this thread.

I like my carbs before and after training tho, but I have never been as lean as tim

I might switch things up  8)

Don't forget that you'Re on the gh15 protocol as well.... ;)

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Re: HELP: Need guidance/tips on current nuntrition/training
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2011, 04:54:57 AM »
Good advices for Wes in this thread.

I like my carbs before and after training tho, but I have never been as lean as tim

I might switch things up  8)
Thanks for the props Stav,but you`ve never been as old and skinny as me either!!  LOL  ;D

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Re: HELP: Need guidance/tips on current nuntrition/training
« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2011, 04:56:03 AM »
Yes exactly! For me, with my diet indicated above I would have to cut out oatmeal for breakfast and rice for the other meal.

re fruit: I used to skip fruit too but since I train late in the day and basically go to bed after my post workout meal thus not want to eat a huge meal, that I should take as a post workout meal a proteinshake?vits+minerals and a banana for the sugar to improve absorbation of it all..  should I skip the bananas
No,that`ll work just fine.

Good luck and stay focused!

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Re: HELP: Need guidance/tips on current nuntrition/training
« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2011, 04:56:59 AM »
bench pressing shirts, maybe they shoudl just use fucking forklifts.
I wonder if my squat would go up if I attached a giant spring to my ass?

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Re: HELP: Need guidance/tips on current nuntrition/training
« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2011, 04:57:35 AM »
Forgot to add (no homo) !!  ;D

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« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2011, 04:58:33 AM »
I used to powerlift back in the early 1970`s,the big old 132 pound class,the lifts done today would hardly get passed!! 

They fucked up a great sport with all the supportive gear they wear these days. :(

When my dad was champion in 1983 I believe they used belts and kneestraps.. I have not followed powerlifting for a long while and I notice now they have those shirts and my dad told me that could give you some 50 lb extra advantage...also I really dont like that benchpressing with a back thats so arched it looks like a bridge.

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Re: HELP: Need guidance/tips on current nuntrition/training
« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2011, 05:05:31 AM »
I wonder if my squat would go up if I attached a giant spring to my ass?

better yet:


http://walyou.com/exoskeleton-robot-suit/

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Re: HELP: Need guidance/tips on current nuntrition/training
« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2011, 05:32:52 AM »
eat less, be more active.

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« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2011, 08:51:25 AM »
bench pressing shirts, maybe they shoudl just use fucking forklifts.


Don't forget that you'Re on the gh15 protocol as well.... ;)

not quite, I had to drop the gh for lack of funds

shit happens

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Re: HELP: Need guidance/tips on current nuntrition/training
« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2011, 12:24:47 AM »
I forgot about WL. ::) ::) ::) ::) I think he has finally gotten to his goal of being 100lbs.  ::) ::)

LOL

That'S the funny thing, he only ate ONE meal a day plus a giant Whey shake (100g).
His diet is shitty at best, Aethiopian starvation diet.

I ran a 500 kcal deficit, how is that a "starvation" diet?
As long as you don't lose strength in the gym, there is no such thing as "starvation mode".

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Re: HELP: Need guidance/tips on current nuntrition/training
« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2011, 12:26:31 AM »
Don`t forget Wavelength!!  ;D

I never said "a calorie is a calorie", this statement brings no light to the question at hand.

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Re: HELP: Need guidance/tips on current nuntrition/training
« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2011, 12:30:05 AM »
YOu know how I know your gay?

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Re: HELP: Need guidance/tips on current nuntrition/training
« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2011, 12:35:24 AM »
1.) Cardio: I used to do cardio after training however I understand this limits your recovery so i stopped. Cardio in morning is no option with children and work so I hope my goal is possible without cardio but with correct nutrition and intense training

2.) My goal is to get rid of the fat and keep/gain muscle.

3.) my diet  on training day is: ...

1.) In regard to body composition, cardio is a tool of convenience. If you can better stick to your plan with cardio, do it. Otherwise ditch it and eat less instead. If you decide to do cardio, it doesn't matter when you do it, it just shouldn't take away from your strength in the gym.

2.) That's always the goal in bodybuilding.

3.) As long as protein is high enough, calories are under control, and you can stick to the diet, it's OK. Those are the key ingredients, everything else is of minor importance for the aforementioned goal.

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Re: HELP: Need guidance/tips on current nuntrition/training
« Reply #42 on: May 06, 2011, 02:43:48 AM »
@ wavelength and @ wes:

I followed up on your recommendations.
First I did the carb cycling however I noticed that I was not bothered with the lack of carb intake on zero carb day.. so I just continued the zero carb days and try stick with it as I have enough fat to use as fuel IMO :).. although it has reduced since the start of the diet
Also my training is still improving so no damage their either.
Cardio I maintain at 30mins after work out

Now diet is:
07.00: 7 eggwhite + 3 yolks
07:30: supplement intake: multivitamin + amino acids + creatin
09.30: Whey protein shake mixed with water
12.00: 1 can tuna (in water) or chicken breast or Salmon + some broccoli + 2 tablespoons olive oil
14.30: Whey protein shake mixed with water
17:00: 1 can tuna (in water) or chicken breast or Salmon + some broccoli + 2 tablespoons olive oil
19.30: Whey protein shake mixed with water
21:00: 1 small piece of pure chocolate 4 cm2
22.00: Whey protein shake mixed with water

Drinks: During the day I drink a lot of water and coffee

I am surprised that I dont feel starved and energyless now doing this for some weeks.

Please provide me with constructive feedback on my diet above and thanks for the input.

Thanks