Author Topic: OBAMA'S ASS-KICKING OF 3333 CONTINUES...216,000 jobs created..employment way up!  (Read 14367 times)

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Labor Force Participation Rate Remains At 25 Year Low 64.2%, Birth/Death Adjusment: +117,000
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 04/01/2011 08:42 -0400

March update: civilian noninstitutional population: 239.0 million; Civillian labor force: 153,406, Employed 139,864, Unemployet 13,542. Americans not in Labor Force: 85,594. Which means that the Labor Force Participation rate continues to be at a 25 year low of 64.2%. And Birth Death adds another 117,000.


Just like i we were saying a few months ago....The official unemployment rate would continue to decline...However, the LFPR would continue to all time lows...

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It's no secret I don't like Obama, he's from my state. It is not anti-Obama it is anti-government, they are all full of shit. We get some lip service but behind closed doors they all think we are stupid. Get people fighting over stupid shit, and that same stupid shit is the only thing that separates the two parties. The POTUS only has the ability to guide policy, and he changes every 4 to 8 years, yet we have the same people in congress for decades. They control the money and present the budgets, we can point the finger at the POTUS all we want. Congress laughs at us.


very good post and I agree with this....makes sense...my point is that you are stuck in your thinking and won't see the other side...I understand the anti-government thing, but on the other hand you have to acknowledge that the government tries to do the right thing and that our system of government is probably as good as its going to get......would you prefer communism?..socialism?...facism?.a monarchy?...yes our government can be messy but its all we have....lets be more open-minded and balanced..not everything Obama does is bad and he IS trying to do the right thing.....as he sees it...he's not some evil guy trying to destroy the country

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You are pretty stupid. Even when the governement was claiming 10%, I was stating that it had to be double that amount. And I wasn't the only one. There were others. So stop generalizing. There were people here who, UNLIKE YOU, know better.


why did it have to be double???..because YOU said so???..why couldn't it have been less???..because then it wouldn't fit into your limited thinking???

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Were you anti Government when Bush was in office.. or were you just anti dem majority in congress and pleased with Bush?

I was a Bush supporter.....I am pro-government.....I will support almost any president who is in power as long as I feel his heart is in the right place and he is trying to do the right thing..

Like Bush's drug prescription plan for seniors...yes it cost a ton of money but I understood that Bush was trying to help seniors out..many were against this

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very good post and I agree with this....makes sense...my point is that you are stuck in your thinking and won't see the other side...I understand the anti-government thing, but on the other hand you have to acknowledge that the government tries to do the right thing and that our system of government is probably as good as its going to get......would you prefer communism?..socialism?...facism?.a monarchy?...yes our government can be messy but its all we have....lets be more open-minded and balanced..not everything Obama does is bad and he IS trying to do the right thing.....as he sees it...he's not some evil guy trying to destroy the country

The constitution lays out the best form of government, we don't have a government that follows the constitution. There was a time when I would agree that the government at least tried to do the right thing, that time has long since passed. Politicians are self serving sociopaths that only care about retaining power and wealth, they don't care about you and they don't care about me.
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Hey idiot - it's been a standard in this forum for years to dive beyond the surface the published UE numbers.  If you actually took the time to read and understand what's going on instead of always trying to up 33 with a "gotcha" moment, maybe so many threads wouldn't completely backfire on you.

And you also never responded to my response to how the fuck a Mets fan can complain about how the Yankees "buy" championships, when they're the ones who set the ridiculous market for elite SP with the Santana deal.



where's the backfire???..because you say that doesn't mean its true......and no one tries harder at "gotcha" than 3333...with his endless cut and pastes from right wing bloggers and ultra conservative on-line periodicals

However I apologize for not answering your met/yankee comment....I will try and find the thread and respond to your query as soon a possible.

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Hey andre - why not give credit to Boehner and the Tea Party? 

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Hey andre - why not give credit to Boehner and the Tea Party? 

For???

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For???

Because by stopping Obama dead in his tracks on cap & trade and a lot of the other WTF policies, maybe businesses feel a little safer in hiring people.   

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This thread is fucking embarrassing.

"Don't believe the numbers, believe what Obama tells you!!!!"

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This thread is fucking embarrassing.

"Don't believe the numbers, believe what Obama tells you!!!!"


APRIL FOOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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APRIL FOOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

;D

I can picture the smug, shit-eating grin andre had on his face face as he typed up this thread. Brutal backfire.

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;D

I can picture the smug, shit-eating grin andre had on his face face as he typed up this thread. Brutal backfire.


To, the Labor Participation Rate is the real number we need to look at.   

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To, the Labor Participation Rate is the real number we need to look at.   

I'm also more inclined to believe a non-partisan organization like Gallup's numbers than the govt. And their numbers say the Obama regime is full of shit...as usual.

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Cnn just reported good employment number...No mention of the real story of course of course.


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Cnn just reported good employment number...No mention of the real story of course of course.




Its all about kneepadding Obama 24/7.   When you look through that lens as far as the media goes, its no wonder why cabe news is such a wortheless joke. 

and why dont they credit Boehner and the GOP at all since they shut obama's wild policies dead in their tracks for the time being?         

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Its all about kneepadding Obama 24/7.   When you look through that lens as far as the media goes, its no wonder why cabe news is such a wortheless joke. 

and why dont they credit Boehner and the GOP at all since they shut obama's wild policies dead in their tracks for the time being?         

I guess mainstream media is for people like Andreistheman. Who accept everything at face value.

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704050204576219073867182108.html

This begs the question what would the employment rate be if the government hadn't grown so god damn muthafucking big?

If you want to understand better why so many states—from New York to Wisconsin to California—are teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, consider this depressing statistic: Today in America there are nearly twice as many people working for the government (22.5 million) than in all of manufacturing (11.5 million). This is an almost exact reversal of the situation in 1960, when there were 15 million workers in manufacturing and 8.7 million collecting a paycheck from the government.

It gets worse. More Americans work for the government than work in construction, farming, fishing, forestry, manufacturing, mining and utilities combined. We have moved decisively from a nation of makers to a nation of takers. Nearly half of the $2.2 trillion cost of state and local governments is the $1 trillion-a-year tab for pay and benefits of state and local employees. Is it any wonder that so many states and cities cannot pay their bills?

Every state in America today except for two—Indiana and Wisconsin—has more government workers on the payroll than people manufacturing industrial goods. Consider California, which has the highest budget deficit in the history of the states. The not-so Golden State now has an incredible 2.4 million government employees—twice as many as people at work in manufacturing. New Jersey has just under two-and-a-half as many government employees as manufacturers. Florida's ratio is more than 3 to 1. So is New York's.

Even Michigan, at one time the auto capital of the world, and Pennsylvania, once the steel capital, have more government bureaucrats than people making things. The leaders in government hiring are Wyoming and New Mexico, which have hired more than six government workers for every manufacturing worker.

Now it is certainly true that many states have not typically been home to traditional manufacturing operations. Iowa and Nebraska are farm states, for example. But in those states, there are at least five times more government workers than farmers. West Virginia is the mining capital of the world, yet it has at least three times more government workers than miners. New York is the financial capital of the world—at least for now. That sector employs roughly 670,000 New Yorkers. That's less than half of the state's 1.48 million government employees.

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Don't expect a reversal of this trend anytime soon. Surveys of college graduates are finding that more and more of our top minds want to work for the government. Why? Because in recent years only government agencies have been hiring, and because the offer of near lifetime security is highly valued in these times of economic turbulence. When 23-year-olds aren't willing to take career risks, we have a real problem on our hands. Sadly, we could end up with a generation of Americans who want to work at the Department of Motor Vehicles.

The employment trends described here are explained in part by hugely beneficial productivity improvements in such traditional industries as farming, manufacturing, financial services and telecommunications. These produce far more output per worker than in the past. The typical farmer, for example, is today at least three times more productive than in 1950.

Where are the productivity gains in government? Consider a core function of state and local governments: schools. Over the period 1970-2005, school spending per pupil, adjusted for inflation, doubled, while standardized achievement test scores were flat. Over roughly that same time period, public-school employment doubled per student, according to a study by researchers at the University of Washington. That is what economists call negative productivity.

But education is an industry where we measure performance backwards: We gauge school performance not by outputs, but by inputs. If quality falls, we say we didn't pay teachers enough or we need smaller class sizes or newer schools. If education had undergone the same productivity revolution that manufacturing has, we would have half as many educators, smaller school budgets, and higher graduation rates and test scores.

The same is true of almost all other government services. Mass transit spends more and more every year and yet a much smaller share of Americans use trains and buses today than in past decades. One way that private companies spur productivity is by firing underperforming employees and rewarding excellence. In government employment, tenure for teachers and near lifetime employment for other civil servants shields workers from this basic system of reward and punishment. It is a system that breeds mediocrity, which is what we've gotten.

Most reasonable steps to restrain public-sector employment costs are smothered by the unions. Study after study has shown that states and cities could shave 20% to 40% off the cost of many services—fire fighting, public transportation, garbage collection, administrative functions, even prison operations—through competitive contracting to private providers. But unions have blocked many of those efforts. Public employees maintain that they are underpaid relative to equally qualified private-sector workers, yet they are deathly afraid of competitive bidding for government services.

President Obama says we have to retool our economy to "win the future." The only way to do that is to grow the economy that makes things, not the sector that takes things.

Mr. Moore is senior economics writer for The Wall Street Journal editorial page.

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The WSJ is one of the few MSM organizations I like. They seem to keep it the most unbiased, at least.

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Explain this - we have have 4 weeks of around 375,000 UE claims, so thats roughly 1.2 million claims in the month.   Participation rate going down, birth death model adding 117000 of these jobs, and we are supposed to think this is good?      

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Explain this - we have have 4 weeks of around 375,000 UE claims, so thats roughly 1.2 million claims in the month.   Participation rate going down, birth death model adding 117000 of these jobs, and we are supposed to think this is good?      

CNN said it was blow-out...

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CNN said it was blow-out...


 ;D  ;D

More like a blow job - from them to obama. 

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Because by stopping Obama dead in his tracks on cap & trade and a lot of the other WTF policies, maybe businesses feel a little safer in hiring people.   


hahahha.....suuureee..wh y didn't you give Boehner credit when he said that Obama is a citizen and handled the Egyptian crisis correctly??? ...you and others called him a bum with no credibility then....now he's great because he did something you agree with???..

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This thread is fucking embarrassing.

"Don't believe the numbers, believe what Obama tells you!!!!"

I never said believe what Obama tells you...I said believe what the government agency who handles these unemployment statistics tells you....big difference..your anti-Obama- at- any- cost- agenda shows itself again :o

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Its all about kneepadding Obama 24/7.   When you look through that lens as far as the media goes, its no wonder why cabe news is such a wortheless joke. 

and why dont they credit Boehner and the GOP at all since they shut obama's wild policies dead in their tracks for the time being?         

again...you and other conservatives on here hated Boehner a few weeks ago and said he had no credibility when I started the "Boehner says Obama a citizen and handled Egypt correctly" thread...remember that???

MY GOD......THE HYPOCRISY