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Iraq vs. Libya: A Graphic Interpretation
« on: April 02, 2011, 08:33:47 AM »
Today Jeff Emanuel posted a very interesting chart regarding the differences between President Bush’s War in Iraq and President Obama’s Kinetic Military Action in Libya. I found the data to be very illuminating, and kudos to Jeff for the research and clarity in putting it together.














http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2011/04/01/iraq-vs-libya-a-graphic-interpretation/


Boom.

Go ahead, Obama sheep. Refute it.

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Re: Iraq vs. Libya: A Graphic Interpretation
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2011, 08:39:10 AM »
BF - i never knew you were such a racist, teabagger, koch brothers shill!   

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Re: Iraq vs. Libya: A Graphic Interpretation
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2011, 08:42:40 AM »
quality stuff there.

it's a little early to judge victory, however.  If 6 months pass, and Libya is calmn and happy with a new leader, there aren't bombs going off in town square daily, and it hasn't cost 4400 US troops lives, I wonder if we'll see similar graphics depicting that.

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Re: Iraq vs. Libya: A Graphic Interpretation
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2011, 08:42:47 AM »
BF - i never knew you were such a racist, teabagger, koch brothers shill!  

Ha. Is Red State tied to the Koch Brothers? It was hot linked on another site I stumbled across and thought it did a great job laying out the failure of the Obama regime's newest war.

quality stuff there.

it's a little early to judge victory, however.  If 6 months pass, and Libya is calmn and happy with a new leader, there aren't bombs going off in town square daily, and it hasn't cost 4400 US troops lives, I wonder if we'll see similar graphics depicting that.

There's nothing to indicate that's going to happen. And when the Brotherhood kills it in the Egyptian elections in September, Obama's going to have a shit-storm on his hands. The Al Qaeda factor in this Libya war right now is going to give the GOP candidate plenty of 2012 firepower.  8)

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Re: Iraq vs. Libya: A Graphic Interpretation
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2011, 08:48:03 AM »
quality stuff there.

it's a little early to judge victory, however.  If 6 months pass, and Libya is calmn and happy with a new leader, there aren't bombs going off in town square daily, and it hasn't cost 4400 US troops lives, I wonder if we'll see similar graphics depicting that.

240 - you really should listen to Batchelor show.   i'm not kidding, and you can ask BF and GW, once you do, you will understand why many of us no longer even turn the TV on anymore. 

This lybia thing is turning into a disaster beyond anything you can imagine.   

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Re: Iraq vs. Libya: A Graphic Interpretation
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2011, 08:53:16 AM »
There's nothing to indicate that's going to happen. And when the Brotherhood kills it in the Egyptian elections in September, Obama's going to have a shit-storm on his hands. The Al Qaeda factor in this Libya war right now is going to give the GOP candidate plenty of 2012 firepower.  8)

If the US can fix elections here, I don't see it being a problem pulling another afghanistan and putting 'our guy' in charge.

i'm still of the belief that in a year, it'll be a puppet from virginia (bwahaha!) running the country and dealing their oil to our allies at super prices.  The people will hate it, but come on, how fond of they were of kadaffi?

And yes, we're working with al-Q, just like every damn president has done since 84.  And we can always tell the libyan puppet that should he get froggy and drop the dollar or not go along with us - we'll have CNN sell the 'al Q in libya" danger and just re-invade.  Wait, our bases will be there anyway?

bwaaahaha

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Re: Iraq vs. Libya: A Graphic Interpretation
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2011, 08:59:18 AM »
If the US can fix elections here, I don't see it being a problem pulling another afghanistan and putting 'our guy' in charge.

i'm still of the belief that in a year, it'll be a puppet from virginia (bwahaha!) running the country and dealing their oil to our allies at super prices.  The people will hate it, but come on, how fond of they were of kadaffi?

And yes, we're working with al-Q, just like every damn president has done since 84.  And we can always tell the libyan puppet that should he get froggy and drop the dollar or not go along with us - we'll have CNN sell the 'al Q in libya" danger and just re-invade.  Wait, our bases will be there anyway?

bwaaahaha

You really have no idea how the situation in Libya is going, do you? You clearly need to do some reading. The rebels are getting worked. They number less than 1,000. They're incompetent, untrained, and cowardly.

But I'll bite. Let's say Gadhafi falls and they have general elections. Should that happen all signs indicate that Gadhafi's son Saif will win as the guy is ridiculously popular. Unlike Mubarak, the Gadhafi family is very popular in Libya and the rebels are the minority in this conflict.

Go ahead and post another fallacious article about another town like Sirte falling (which turned out to be complete bullshit).

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Re: Iraq vs. Libya: A Graphic Interpretation
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2011, 09:11:02 AM »
maybe kadaffi's kid plays ball.  or maybe he slips on a banana peel that a heavily muscled 'journalist' leaves behind.

if they're so popular - why did he have to hire foreign merc when his military left him?  why did he feel the need to almost slaughter an entire city? 

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Re: Iraq vs. Libya: A Graphic Interpretation
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2011, 09:20:16 AM »
maybe kadaffi's kid plays ball.  or maybe he slips on a banana peel that a heavily muscled 'journalist' leaves behind.

if they're so popular - why did he have to hire foreign merc when his military left him?  why did he feel the need to almost slaughter an entire city?  

His military didn't leave him. Portions of his military in the east did. And he foresaw that possibility decades ago. That's why, in terms of his military, they were the worst trained, worst armed, worst funded and filled with people he didn't trust. All but a small handful of the people in his air force and elite units, which he stocked with hand-picked people he trusted, have stuck around. Gadhafi is a douche but tactically-speaking, he's a smart douche. He knew where the troubled elements in his military were and planned accordingly for a situation like this.

The mercs were called in because they get paid to kill indiscriminately, and that's exactly what Gadhafi wanted. People who won't have a moral issue killing their own countrymen.

You do know that CNN has estimated the rebels total less than 1,000 fighters, right? They're not winning anything. If the US doesn't actively seek out Gadhafi's head (which, to this point, they haven't), the best these rebels should be hoping for is a stale mate. Too bad Gadhafi refused their cease fire offer yesterday.


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Re: Iraq vs. Libya: A Graphic Interpretation
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2011, 11:33:01 AM »
Great chart.  The Martian Man reference is pretty funny.   :)

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Re: Iraq vs. Libya: A Graphic Interpretation
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2011, 11:35:14 AM »
I wonder if the bama is going to call for a surge when this stupid policy fails.