This is exactly what i meant by i needed reassurance, i always get a laugh and good info at the same time. Thanx u guys, i got laid off after 4.5 years on a job and said fuck it, now i have time to eat, sleep, pin, and grow, now or never and i went balls out. Week 9, bench up 60, weight went up 21 lbs while on the dbol, now a clean 17 after dropping it and still running enanthate, squats only went up 40, but thats cuz i hate em and find a reason not to work em(shut up) and am over all happy and still have 5 pins left. Thanx