yeah im 23, trust me i could not go pro in ice hockey. the NHL is one of the hardest leagues to get into... hey you never know though, i wish i was an athlete.. right now id have a better chance trying to into the nfl though LOL... yeah well we didnt have a team strength coach,we had a priest in the locker room though if that counts hahah.... there was a guy we could go to who would stretch us and tell us some workouts to do in his studio but to be honest he was a nice guy but creepy as fuck. Im interested in hormones for the same reasons you are/were. vanity and to achieve better conditioning while growing leaner. Not new muscle ive been serious in the gym for 3 years now, always lifted as a young kid but was never serious or ate right and just drank beers after the gym. im not hating on you though dude, i said ur bloated pic is horrible but u look great in shape... if you were a cool dude im sure u wouldnt mind sharing the stack u ran to get into that condition but u dont seem like a "bro" anyway so its all good, do you, good luck.