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Re: Analysis of Strategic Threats In the Current Decade (2010-2020)
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2011, 08:17:08 PM »
Skimmed it.  No discussion of Al Qaeda and radical Islamists?

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Re: Analysis of Strategic Threats In the Current Decade (2010-2020)
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2011, 08:32:03 PM »
Skimmed it.  No discussion of Al Qaeda and radical Islamists?

Well the real enemy is Russia and China

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Re: Analysis of Strategic Threats In the Current Decade (2010-2020)
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2011, 09:07:05 AM »
You mean no threat of Al CIAda? 

"The database" was created by the CIA during the Russian/ Afghan war with the aid of Obama's puppet master Zbignew Brenzenski.  Now its has come back to bite us in the ass.
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2011, 09:35:13 AM »
freeborn, please explain this to 333386.

he is a huge alex jones follower - except for the shit that went down under repub presidents.  911 and al-Q.  He can't accept that, but he believes everything alex says about clinton 92-2000 and obama now.

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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2011, 09:50:37 AM »
freeborn, please explain this to 333386.

he is a huge alex jones follower - except for the shit that went down under repub presidents.  911 and al-Q.  He can't accept that, but he believes everything alex says about clinton 92-2000 and obama now.
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The Left/right false paradigm is out in plain sight.  Everyone should be aware of the engineered deception by now.  Pepsi/Coke, Repub/Democrat, take your pick, they both taste a little different but in the end they are both they same type of product. 

However, I will say that the globalists primary means of infiltration into our government is via the democrat party.  The Republicans at least still have some dissenters like Ron/Rand Paul, Demint, Mike Lee, etc.  The dems have no one.  But Bush Sr./jr. were just as bad as Clinton/Obama.  Reagan tried to rule with honesty and for the people but he was constantly undermined by Bush Sr.
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Re: Analysis of Strategic Threats In the Current Decade (2010-2020)
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2011, 10:02:40 AM »
Well what do you guys think about WW3 happening by the end of this decade? I think Joel Skousen really makes a good point about it.

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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2011, 10:10:33 AM »
Well what do you guys think about WW3 happening by the end of this decade? I think Joel Skousen really makes a good point about it.

I have been ready for TSHTF since Nov. 2008.   I probably a better armed than the rebels in lybia at this point.   

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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2011, 11:31:09 AM »
Well the real enemy is Russia and China

You think so?  Al Qaeda and radical Islamists are the ones killing Americans.  They are the ones constantly planning terrorist attacks.  I think they are a much bigger threat to our safety than Russia or China (especially Russia). 

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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2011, 11:39:47 AM »
You think so?  Al Qaeda and radical Islamists are the ones killing Americans.  They are the ones constantly planning terrorist attacks.  I think they are a much bigger threat to our safety than Russia or China (especially Russia). 

statistically speaking, there is a VERY small chance your life will ever be affected by the muslims on the other side of the world that hate americans.  most will stew and piss and moan in their little mud hut and never afford a plane ticket. 

have russia/china affected your life already?  Oh, you betcha!  The weakening US Dollar over the past decade, as russia rebuilt and china hoarded our debt as fast as their people have hoarded precious metals.  It's going to get worse before it gets better. 

So while the guy in iran screaming in the streets is the threat the media likes to play, its the russia/china dynamic that will really bring down US power in the world - look at the decline from 2000 to 2011 alone  - currency, standing, ability to 'call shots'.  The G20 is telling us a new cuurency is coming.  THAT hurts our lives in a big way - permanently.

So 'safety' - yes, rus/china aren't going to blow themselves up in a mall near you.
statistically, neither wll some asshat from kabul.

However, it's a certainty that RUS/CHI will make your life worse.

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Re: Analysis of Strategic Threats In the Current Decade (2010-2020)
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2011, 11:41:15 AM »
statistically speaking, there is a VERY small chance your life will ever be affected by the muslims on the other side of the world that hate americans.  most will stew and piss and moan in their little mud hut and never afford a plane ticket. 

have russia/china affected your life already?  Oh, you betcha!  The weakening US Dollar over the past decade, as russia rebuilt and china hoarded our debt as fast as their people have hoarded precious metals.  It's going to get worse before it gets better. 

So while the guy in iran screaming in the streets is the threat the media likes to play, its the russia/china dynamic that will really bring down US power in the world - look at the decline from 2000 to 2011 alone  - currency, standing, ability to 'call shots'.  The G20 is telling us a new cuurency is coming.  THAT hurts our lives in a big way - permanently.

So 'safety' - yes, rus/china aren't going to blow themselves up in a mall near you.
statistically, neither wll some asshat from kabul.

However, it's a certainty that RUS/CHI will make your life worse.

 ::)  Go read a book. 

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Re: Analysis of Strategic Threats In the Current Decade (2010-2020)
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2011, 12:35:04 PM »
::)  Go read a book. 


hey man, your personal insults seem to incrase when i'm making good points.

you worry about some dickhead in his hut screaming to his friends about what his version of God says.

I prefer to focus upon the real economic ramifications of RUS/CHI relations and their mgmt of US debt and trade.

You got your brown boogeyman.  I'll watch my PM basket.  We'll see who ends up right.

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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2011, 12:40:27 PM »
240 - I'm a libertarian. 

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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2011, 12:43:49 PM »
hey man, your personal insults seem to incrase when i'm making good points.

you worry about some dickhead in his hut screaming to his friends about what his version of God says.

I prefer to focus upon the real economic ramifications of RUS/CHI relations and their mgmt of US debt and trade.

You got your brown boogeyman.  I'll watch my PM basket.  We'll see who ends up right.

You rarely make good points. I do not take you seriously.  HTH   :)

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Re: Analysis of Strategic Threats In the Current Decade (2010-2020)
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2011, 12:50:04 PM »
You think so?  Al Qaeda and radical Islamists are the ones killing Americans.  They are the ones constantly planning terrorist attacks.  I think they are a much bigger threat to our safety than Russia or China (especially Russia). 

If the supposed " terrorist threat " was real then why haven't there been any attacks over this last decade? Our southern border is left open and if there was a real terrorist threat then they would be making full use of it. I mean this is just common sense

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Re: Analysis of Strategic Threats In the Current Decade (2010-2020)
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2011, 01:58:21 PM »
A FEW COMMENTS FOR THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND THE THREAT BUT DOUBT CONSPIRACY

There is one major mistake in assumption that almost all people make who object to conspiracy--they assume that everyone or nearly everyone contributing to the conspirator's agenda must know there is a conspiracy and be privy to the entire plan and all its details. This is not true, but conjuring up this assumption allows people to easily dismiss conspiracy with the understanding that too many knowing people would make it impossible to keep the secret. I certainly have never made a case for that all or even a many of the participants know the whole plan or even substantial parts of it. -Quite the contrary. All my writings have concentrated on explaining how and why top level conspirators use masses of predictable leftists, yes-men, ambitious lackeys and partially knowing ladder-climbers to do their bidding--specifically so as to limit the number who have "need to know" access. They cement together the whole conglomerate with subtle and not so subtle threats--and occasionally carry them out. Many are bought off with regular payments--like journalists and judges. Most know only parts of the puzzle.

However, almost everyone in high places does know there is "power structure" above them they dare not challenge, they also know it isn't good for their job, advancement or health to "ask too many questions." Read any number of the tales by federal whistleblowers to confirm this general fear. Thus, most participants rationalize it all away as some benevolent control system, or believing that "whoever they are" must control the world in order to have stability. Others, especially in the enforcement ranks, are just too corrupt to care. But the bottom line is: very few know that the Powers That Be (PTB) intend to pull the nuclear trigger via Russia and China. All the little steps leading up to weakening the US and building up Russia and China are covered by liberal notions of "détente," "easing tensions," and "peace." These lesser officials who are tasked to defend these lies tend to believe their own propaganda.

However, the ones at the very top, who do know how to use war to create Hegelian responses, are very very evil--something most of the world doesn't really believe in anymore, and that is why many people can't conceive of or believe in this horrible brand of conspiracy. But keep in mind what they did before in building up Hitler, only to set him loose on Europe during WWII. The war created a justification for the UN and facilitated the rise of a new enemy (Russia) in its aftermath. Remember Pearl Harbor--not because of the infamy of Japan, but the infamy of Roosevelt and his leftist crew who induced Japan to attack and hid the information from our own military in Hawaii. It happened before, so why should it be so hard to believe now? We are reaching the culmination of what George Marshall and his cohorts planned by creating a cold war enemy. Russia was allowed to rise and have hegemony over Europe in order to create the next war. The phony demise of "Communism" is merely the final effort to lull the West into complacency before the strike. We are about to see it descend upon the world.

In all of this, I'm certainly not discounting the military-industrial complex argument, but it doesn't explain why people that are already fabulously wealthy and who control the reigns of power are still pushing the world toward greater and greater global control. None of this will give them any more personal power or wealth. How much money and power can any single person use? The military industrial complex argument doesn't explain the rush to suicide and disarmament at an alarming rate. Some participants are blind, but surely some must suspect this is very dangerous game and are going along in order to please some other very powerful people above them.

But let there be no doubt--the top echelon expects to survive this--why else have they built significant bunkers at US taxpayer expense, and private bunkers in resort homes in Colorado at their own expense. Somebody knows something is coming. Also, war is not as futile a tactic as most conspiracy debunkers assume. At least 2/3 of the world will survive this even without preparations, and virtually all the high level people who know that war is coming have made preparations to survive it.

Jeff Nyquist and many others do not believe in conspiracy--at least on a broad scale. They try to explain things in terms of mistakes, blunders and attempts to cover for those blunders. The basic problem I have with Nyquist's reliance on standard psychological and sociological models is that it breaks down with the more specific information I have about the detailed actions of those involved in the government's undermining of our national interests--in exchange for global and leftist interests. I've never met an honest conspiracy debunker yet who has really read all the literature of the defectors from the CIA and other black agencies. Of course, virtually none of the defectors themselves sees the big picture either--but the evidence is clear that the whistleblowers all knew that the higher ups directly conspired to keep them silent. We have to look at the long historical trend of conformity to leftist ideology in these cover ups to perceive the unified purpose behind these actions. Few witnesses immersed in the details of a whistleblower's tragic battles with government have the talent to see the correlation and pattern of action that point to a coordinated plan of attack on liberty and national sovereignty. It's too easy to focus on the specific injustice.

For example, the excuse that the betrayal of US security interests by CIA or State Department officials is a cover-up for past mistakes is a weak conclusion. Certainly, mistakes happen, no matter how much power the PTB have. But covering for blunders alone does not explain why high government officials keep making NEW MISTAKES in the same consistent direction (leftward) and why there are more and more NEW EFFORTS to cover for NEW threats from the Russians and Chinese . Why is it that we never see any official learn from the blunders of the past? Why is it that the betrayals keep accelerating and getting broader? The more diverse the agencies involved and the more people that are brought into the net of betrayal, the less possible it is that they are all acting only to cover for mistakes. There has to be some other explanation that keeps generation after generation of government officials moving toward a single direction.

Cover-ups are what I consider my best evidence for conspiracy--simply because of the interconnectedness between disconnected officials and agencies that happens in a conspiracy. But now Nyquist comes along and, while admitting that cover ups exist, claims that there is no plan behind them--that it is only normal sociological motives of rogue individuals. I don't buy it--mainly because of the many many years this has been going on, and the fact that it has always had a powerful continuum of hostility toward the interests of liberty. If it were people covering for people, the process would clear itself from time to time or even reverse directions. It would be more random. But it isn't random. It shows all too much disturbing evidence of continual forward movement--purposeful movement, in my opinion.


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Re: Analysis of Strategic Threats In the Current Decade (2010-2020)
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2011, 02:55:35 PM »
o13 is this your article?  If not whats the background of the guy who wrote it?

I read some of the link, i think either Russia or China would happy to the power America enjoys and would naturally be striving to do that.  So I don't neccessarily see any conspiracy in that because it's kind of the nature of the animal so to speak. 

Addtionally, our Defense posture might be different now, especially with conventional weapons.  For example:  how we monitor the eastern seaboard might not be as stringent as it was prior to 1991.  However, I don't think our nuclear arsenal nor our early warning system is " turned off" so I don't see how a Russian first strike will wipe us out with out them getting wiped out also.


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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2011, 02:57:03 PM »
You think so?  Al Qaeda and radical Islamists are the ones killing Americans.  They are the ones constantly planning terrorist attacks.  I think they are a much bigger threat to our safety than Russia or China (especially Russia). 

Terrorism is an immediate threat, while China and Russia are strategic threats.

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« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2011, 03:53:29 PM »
o13 is this your article?  If not whats the background of the guy who wrote it?

I read some of the link, i think either Russia or China would happy to the power America enjoys and would naturally be striving to do that.  So I don't neccessarily see any conspiracy in that because it's kind of the nature of the animal so to speak. 

Addtionally, our Defense posture might be different now, especially with conventional weapons.  For example:  how we monitor the eastern seaboard might not be as stringent as it was prior to 1991.  However, I don't think our nuclear arsenal nor our early warning system is " turned off" so I don't see how a Russian first strike will wipe us out with out them getting wiped out also.



This is not my article thats part of the article of that link I posted above. This is all written by a man named Joel Skousen. Here is his website http://www.joelskousen.com/ and his bio http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Skousen. As far as a first strike on us he discusses how they would be able to pull that one off because of a standing order that we are supposed to absorb a first strike attack.


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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2011, 04:04:36 PM »
This is not my article thats part of the article of that link I posted above. This is all written by a man named Joel Skousen. Here is his website http://www.joelskousen.com/ and his bio http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Skousen. As far as a first strike on us he discusses how they would be able to pull that one off because of a standing order that we are supposed to absorb a first strike attack.


Wouldn't we absorb a first strike regardless?  I don't know that we have a legit missle defense system yet.  Also wouldn't they absorb our strike also?

Or is it that our protocol is not to do anything while their missle are in the air?

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« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2011, 04:17:49 PM »
Terrorism is an immediate threat, while China and Russia are strategic threats.

I think BB combined the two into "threat", like FOX does.

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« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2011, 06:59:08 PM »
If the supposed " terrorist threat " was real then why haven't there been any attacks over this last decade? Our southern border is left open and if there was a real terrorist threat then they would be making full use of it. I mean this is just common sense

Because we have stopped numerous attempted attacks.  Common sense tells me that if we have stopped numerous attempted terrorist attacks, that terrorists have been and continue to plot ways to kill Americans. 

Here is a link talking about how we stopped 19 attempted terrorist attacks since 9/11:  http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2007/11/us-thwarts-19-terrorist-attacks-against-america-since-9-11

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« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2011, 07:03:36 PM »
Terrorism is an immediate threat, while China and Russia are strategic threats.

What's the difference?  Terrorism is both an immediate and long-term threat.  Radical Islamists have the delusional goal of taking over the world, or at a minimum stamping out our way of life.  They want us to convert or die. 

BTW, when was the last time someone acting on behalf of the Russian or Chinese governments tried to kill Americans? 

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« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2011, 07:04:36 PM »
I think BB combined the two into "threat", like FOX does.

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« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2011, 07:21:42 PM »
Because we have stopped numerous attempted attacks.  Common sense tells me that if we have stopped numerous attempted terrorist attacks, that terrorists have been and continue to plot ways to kill Americans. 

Here is a link talking about how we stopped 19 attempted terrorist attacks since 9/11:  http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2007/11/us-thwarts-19-terrorist-attacks-against-america-since-9-11

If there was a real threat like I said before there would have been something happening. I mean this is a big country our security is not that great to begin with.