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Re: The best rear double biceps shot ever taken?
« Reply #175 on: April 11, 2011, 01:27:32 PM »

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« Reply #176 on: April 11, 2011, 01:31:32 PM »
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« Reply #177 on: April 11, 2011, 01:45:25 PM »
dorian had very average genetics,,take a picture of him today and you shall see,,very very average,,he brought it up with hormones and made it superior with work and hormones and very good response to the hormones,,but genetic wize dorian was average exactly like jason cutler is average,, just nothing pop naturaly ,,coule get lean but realy nothing to write home about just another local with average genetics

take  alook at ron in highschool and dorian in highschool ,,its is night and day when it come to genetic structure,,butu as we know bodybuild is ALL in the response to hormones and other drugs and how much you can tolerate them and the constant usage of diuretic inorder to make yourself from a muscle bloof into a muscle stud aka shrinked wraped skin over the muscle that create the sucktion femonemon also known as CONDITIONED ... grainy is the next level and involoved mastering diuretic and risking lots of your health ,,the winner is the one who cal pull it all and stay alive my friend


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Yes so average in fact we've seen dozens of guys with very average genetics dominate the sport like he did ::) you're so full of shit you don't even believe the garbage you type.

' Very Average Genetics '  ::)

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Re: The best rear double biceps shot ever taken?
« Reply #178 on: April 11, 2011, 02:55:43 PM »
Yes so average in fact we've seen dozens of guys with very average genetics dominate the sport like he did ::) you're so full of shit you don't even believe the garbage you type.

' Very Average Genetics '  ::)

i wish you understood bodybuild insted of collecting it like stamps lol,,look at your own pictures you put here,,this is average genetic for bodybuilder,,yes he is thick,,yes he is dense,,yes he is developed but the GENETIC IS AVERAGE AT BEST,,he got very average arms infact quite small in comparison to what they would be if they were strogn point,,the muscle shape is severly lackin in the arms,,its just meat and lean beed which ofcourse is good but still average in genetic department,,you confuse condition and density + muscul developement ...with genetics..

dorian had PHENOMINAL RESPOND TO DRUGS ,,his geneticsssssss was average at best,,but! unlike jason who is the walking joke of the bodybuild mr o history as mr o ....dorian was smart enough and wize enough to rely les on insulina and more on gh and aas,,

the end

if you want to see very good genetics you should look at phellas such as stan mcowy ,,sagi kalev ,,thats! is suprior genetics ,,yes it woudl be smal with out the hormones but the SHAPE SHALL REMAIN ,,and the muscle shape shall remain even when small

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Re: The best rear double biceps shot ever taken?
« Reply #179 on: April 11, 2011, 03:17:58 PM »
i wish you understood bodybuild insted of collecting it like stamps lol,,look at your own pictures you put here,,this is average genetic for bodybuilder,,yes he is thick,,yes he is dense,,yes he is developed but the GENETIC IS AVERAGE AT BEST,,he got very average arms infact quite small in comparison to what they would be if they were strogn point,,the muscle shape is severly lackin in the arms,,its just meat and lean beed which ofcourse is good but still average in genetic department,,you confuse condition and density + muscul developement ...with genetics..

dorian had PHENOMINAL RESPOND TO DRUGS ,,his geneticsssssss was average at best,,but! unlike jason who is the walking joke of the bodybuild mr o history as mr o ....dorian was smart enough and wize enough to rely les on insulina and more on gh and aas,,

the end

if you want to see very good genetics you should look at phellas such as stan mcowy ,,sagi kalev ,,thats! is suprior genetics ,,yes it woudl be smal with out the hormones but the SHAPE SHALL REMAIN ,,and the muscle shape shall remain even when small

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You can keep typing he was average as many times as you like it wont take away from the absurdity of the statement , NO ONE of ' very average genetics ' dominates bodybuilding the way he did for years on end , changing the entire sport

His size wasn't average , his conditioning wasn't average , his response to drugs wasn't average , his balance & proportion weren't average , his density wasn't average , his strength wasn't average , nothing about Dorian Yates was average go learn what genetics are dumb ass

muscle shape severely lacking in the arms OH BOY  ::) keep digging yourself a deeper hole no one can touch this pose

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Re: The best rear double biceps shot ever taken?
« Reply #180 on: April 11, 2011, 03:47:39 PM »
You can keep typing he was average as many times as you like it wont take away from the absurdity of the statement , NO ONE of ' very average genetics ' dominates bodybuilding the way he did for years on end , changing the entire sport

His size wasn't average , his conditioning wasn't average , his response to drugs wasn't average , his balance & proportion weren't average , his density wasn't average , his strength wasn't average , nothing about Dorian Yates was average go learn what genetics are dumb ass

muscle shape severely lacking in the arms OH BOY  ::) keep digging yourself a deeper hole no one can touch this pose

r e t a r d ,,

tricep make most of arm ,,he has no over all arms that match his torse,,same problem many other MR O suffer from ,,doesnt take from anything else,,his bicep was not good enough but it didnt change a thing becaue bCK THEN IT WASS ONLY MAJOR AAS LIKE TRENBOLONA MAJOR HGH  AND SOME INSULINA ,, AND NOT MAJOR INSULINA MAJOR AAS AND MAJOR HGH,,THIS IS THE ONLY DIFF,,THIS IS WHY HE GOT GRANITE INADDITION TO HIM MASTERING DIURETIC AND WILLING TO PLAY WITH HIS HEALTH HE TOOK GAMBLE WITH STRETCHING DIURETIC TO THE LIMIT AND FOUND HIMSELF WINNER  IN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ,,OFCOURSE YOU DONT KNOW HOW MUCH OF A WINNER HE REALLY IS BECAUSE TIME WILL TELL SINCE FELLA IS  STILL YOUNG WHEN IT COME TO LIFE....


very important for you to understand that genetic doesnt mean respond to drugs ,,it means WHAT YOU WEE GIVEN TO START WITH ,,WHAT YOUR PAPA AND MAMA GAVE YOU ,,AND IN THIS DEPARTMENT HE WAS AVERAGE INFACT LESS THAN AVERAGE,,

you confusing 2 diff things,,on one hand you try to make dorian be the multiple champ which he is no doubt about it ,,but ! in his case it had nothing to do with original genetics,,it had to do with his ability to hold lots of medicine in his body with out getting sick ,,and to respond to it phenominally ,,and finally the granite condition came BECAUSE OF DIURETICS AND DIET COMBO,,but rest assure the diuretic were big factor ,,he took it to the limit like andreas but in dorian case he didnt die....

yet.

bodybuildr at that level has lots of health problems you will never even be aware of ,,when you start playing the granite game at the sizes talked about while trying to build muscle and keep it all while losing not onnly bodyfat,,but all the water and also having not much fat from within the muscle the way it was in the extreme 90s with some....you are risking alot mainly kidny and liver and the problems you dont hear about and the ones you hear are already too hard to hide,,make what you make out of it but you are goolible if you think he had more than avaerage genetic to begin with when he touched weight,,he was the absolit description of the term A V E R G E ,,he took it to new level of exelence which jason failed at doing,,


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Re: The best rear double biceps shot ever taken?
« Reply #181 on: April 11, 2011, 03:50:35 PM »
r e t a r d ,,

tricep make most of arm ,,he has no over all arms that match his torse,,same problem many other MR O suffer from ,,doesnt take from anything else,,his bicep was not good enough but it didnt change a thing becaue bCK THEN IT WASS ONLY MAJOR AAS LIKE TRENBOLONA MAJOR HGH  AND SOME INSULINA ,, AND NOT MAJOR INSULINA MAJOR AAS AND MAJOR HGH,,THIS IS THE ONLY DIFF,,THIS IS WHY HE GOT GRANITE INADDITION TO HIM MASTERING DIURETIC AND WILLING TO PLAY WITH HIS HEALTH HE TOOK GAMBLE WITH STRETCHING DIURETIC TO THE LIMIT AND FOUND HIMSELF WINNER  IN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ,,OFCOURSE YOU DONT KNOW HOW MUCH OF A WINNER HE REALLY IS BECAUSE TIME WILL TELL SINCE FELLA IS  STILL YOUNG WHEN IT COME TO LIFE....


very important for you to understand that genetic doesnt mean respond to drugs ,,it means WHAT YOU WEE GIVEN TO START WITH ,,WHAT YOUR PAPA AND MAMA GAVE YOU ,,AND IN THIS DEPARTMENT HE WAS AVERAGE INFACT LESS THAN AVERAGE,,

you confusing 2 diff things,,on one hand you try to make dorian be the multiple champ which he is no doubt about it ,,but ! in his case it had nothing to do with original genetics,,it had to do with his ability to hold lots of medicine in his body with out getting sick ,,and to respond to it phenominally ,,and finally the granite condition came BECAUSE OF DIURETICS AND DIET COMBO,,but rest assure the diuretic were big factor ,,he took it to the limit like andreas but in dorian case he didnt die....

yet.

bodybuildr at that level has lots of health problems you will never even be aware of ,,when you start playing the granite game at the sizes talked about while trying to build muscle and keep it all while losing not onnly bodyfat,,but all the water and also having not much fat from within the muscle the way it was in the extreme 90s with some....you are risking alot mainly kidny and liver and the problems you dont hear about and the ones you hear are already too hard to hide,,make what you make out of it but you are goolible if you think he had more than avaerage genetic to begin with when he touched weight,,he was the absolit description of the term A V E R G E ,,he took it to new level of exelence which jason failed at doing,,


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You , yourself claimed he was one of the top 5 bodybuilders of ALL TIME yet he has very average genetics , like I said your so full of shit you don't even buy the nonsense you're spewing

his genetics are among the best the sports ever seen.

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Re: The best rear double biceps shot ever taken?
« Reply #182 on: April 11, 2011, 03:53:44 PM »
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You , yourself claimed he was one of the top 5 bodybuilders of ALL TIME yet he has very average genetics , like I said your so full of shit you don't even buy the nonsense you're spewing

his genetics are among the best the sports ever seen.

yes he is among the best 5 bodybuilder of all time,,among the 4 best to be exact,,but what the connection ,,he is actualy a prooof that drugs AND WORKKKK can pay off!!! if you got the genetic response and know your pharmacuticals wether ug or hg ,,you need to know what your body likes and how to eliminate water the best way possible ,,he knew it thus created granit ,,thus winner of multiple o ,,thus one of best bodybuild ever,, i never argued it i just said he had average genetics ,,take arnold take ron...much better genetic to begin with,,,take sergio oliva wipe the lfoor witrh dorian in genetic to begin with many do ,,

but as i said many times what counts in bodybuild is ONLY how you respond to the hormones AND when you respond well ....how much you are willing to work at it to get to the top!

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Re: The best rear double biceps shot ever taken?
« Reply #183 on: April 11, 2011, 04:01:39 PM »
yes he is among the best 5 bodybuilder of all time,,among the 4 best to be exact,,but what the connection ,,he is actualy a prooof that drugs AND WORKKKK can pay off!!! if you got the genetic response and know your pharmacuticals wether ug or hg ,,you need to know what your body likes and how to eliminate water the best way possible ,,he knew it thus created granit ,,thus winner of multiple o ,,thus one of best bodybuild ever,, i never argued it i just said he had average genetics ,,take arnold take ron...much better genetic to begin with,,,take sergio oliva wipe the lfoor witrh dorian in genetic to begin with many do ,,

but as i said many times what counts in bodybuild is ONLY how you respond to the hormones AND when you respond well ....how much you are willing to work at it to get to the top!

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BULLSHIT plain & simple under NO circumstances can a guy with '  very average genetics ' be one of the top 5 greatest bodybuilders of all-time , it's a contradiction

one does not get to dominate the sport with ' very average genetics ' impossible you're perpetuating this myth somehow Dorian out-willed his less than perfect genetics and it's just that bullshit , Dorian's genetics are world class and it shows in his physique 


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Re: The best rear double biceps shot ever taken?
« Reply #184 on: April 11, 2011, 04:43:05 PM »
BULLSHIT plain & simple under NO circumstances can a guy with '  very average genetics ' be one of the top 5 greatest bodybuilders of all-time , it's a contradiction

one does not get to dominate the sport with ' very average genetics ' impossible you're perpetuating this myth somehow Dorian out-willed his less than perfect genetics and it's just that bullshit , Dorian's genetics are world class and it shows in his physique 



ND why do you always post on the same topic (exceptions are rare) and in essence what you have to say is always the same thing, i.e,

There was once this guy (him being white appears to be relevant) who once had a photoshoot wearing gym socks where he looked great standing by himself (a typical enough occurrence).

Said guy went on to:

-win several Mr Olympias, at least one of which widely regarded by non-invested parties as a gift,

-usher the mass monster era in bbing which is killing it

This being said: why ND?, why?


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Re: The best rear double biceps shot ever taken?
« Reply #185 on: April 11, 2011, 06:20:06 PM »
BULLSHIT plain & simple under NO circumstances can a guy with '  very average genetics ' be one of the top 5 greatest bodybuilders of all-time , it's a contradiction

one does not get to dominate the sport with ' very average genetics ' impossible you're perpetuating this myth somehow Dorian out-willed his less than perfect genetics and it's just that bullshit , Dorian's genetics are world class and it shows in his physique 



dorian and haney are the 2 exeptions ,,,arnold had great genetic make up,,sergio too,,ron ofcourse...

haney was even better than dorian ...its just that dorian pulled out few 100s little boxs of 191 gh...and invented the insulina gh protocols that in his case was not a problem because he didnt abuse insulina at his prime only later to be stolen by mishko and being reinvented into abuse and the creation of what now known as generation wanna be bodybuildr that has size everywhere beside conditioned size when they get on stage lol


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Re: The best rear double biceps shot ever taken?
« Reply #186 on: April 11, 2011, 06:23:34 PM »
ND why do you always post on the same topic (exceptions are rare) and in essence what you have to say is always the same thing, i.e,

There was once this guy (him being white appears to be relevant) who once had a photoshoot wearing gym socks where he looked great standing by himself (a typical enough occurrence).

Said guy went on to:

-win several Mr Olympias, at least one of which widely regarded by non-invested parties as a gift,

-usher the mass monster era in bbing which is killing it

This being said: why ND?, why?



You go look at my post history and see how long it's been since I've touched this topic seeing it's rare I speak about anything but this according to you  ::)

People voice opinions I'm doing the same and yet I'm some how more emotionally involved than they are  ::)  ::) ( that deserves a double rolly eyes )

And to answer your question ' why? ' because stupidity needs to be corrected and that's what I do.

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Re: The best rear double biceps shot ever taken?
« Reply #187 on: April 11, 2011, 06:32:49 PM »
Go look at early photos of Yates and you can see he was a skinny little runt, average at best in the genetics department.  His response to hormones was well above average which is the only reason he was what he was.  Sorry ND, you're completely wrong on this subject.

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« Reply #188 on: April 11, 2011, 07:10:33 PM »
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« Reply #189 on: April 11, 2011, 07:21:38 PM »
dorian and haney are the 2 exeptions ,,,arnold had great genetic make up,,sergio too,,ron ofcourse...

haney was even better than dorian ...its just that dorian pulled out few 100s little boxs of 191 gh...and invented the insulina gh protocols that in his case was not a problem because he didnt abuse insulina at his prime only later to be stolen by mishko and being reinvented into abuse and the creation of what now known as generation wanna be bodybuildr that has size everywhere beside conditioned size when they get on stage lol


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Re: The best rear double biceps shot ever taken?
« Reply #190 on: April 11, 2011, 07:37:06 PM »
It is fact that for the greater part the genetic makeup of today's champions comes primarily from a pharmacy.  Dorian, Haney, Coleslaw, Gutler, Levrone, Ray, et al were nothing  but or only slightly above average sans any  performance enhancing drug use.  People here talk about "great receptors" as they relate to massive amounts of drugs as though they are the Holy Grail of bodybuilding. 

I would wager that given the hideous quantities of drugs these ass clowns now take, that on such drugs even one such as I, being a very small man, would become far, far above "average".  For proof look no further than the likes of such "shorter"  ;) greats as  Franco Columbu, Mohammed Makkawy, Danny Padilla, Larry Scott, Lee Priest and a host of names familiar to all but far too great in number than I wish to spend typing.

Look at them before any "performance enhancing" drugs and at the height of their hypocrisy.  And since many here will refute my words I ask that you question gh15 the truth of my supposition.  Is it true or not that drugs and the quantity thereof make the "man" and not authentic genetic superiority?  If he is honest, he shall answer "Yes!"

The difference goes beyond the ubiquitous night and day but that will have to suffice for most here would put on blinders so as to forever remain in the darkness of that night.

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« Reply #191 on: April 11, 2011, 07:40:18 PM »
It is fact that for the greater part the genetic makeup of today's champions comes primarily from a pharmacy.  Dorian, Haney, Coleslaw, Gutler, Levrone, Ray, et al were nothing or only slightly above average sans any  performance enhancing drug use.  People here talk about "great receptors" as they relate to massive amounts of drugs as though they are the Holy Grail of bodybuilding.  

I would wager that given the hideous quantities of drugs these ass clowns now take, that on such drugs even one such as I, being a very small man, would become far, far above "average".  For proof look no further than the likes of such "shorter"  ;) greats as  Franco Columbu, Mohammed Makkawy, Danny Padilla, Larry Scott, Lee Priest and a host of names familiar to all but far too great in number than I wish to spend typing.

Look at them before any "performance enhancing" drugs and at the height of their hypocrisy.  And since many here will refute my words I ask that you question gh15 the truth of my supposition.  Is it true or not that drugs and the quantity thereof make the "man" and not authentic genetic superiority?  If he is honest, he shall answer "Yes!"

The difference goes beyond the ubiquitous night and day but that will have to suffice for most here would put on blinders so as to forever remain in the darkness of that night.

You forgot to say, "Fuck that noise!"

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Re: The best rear double biceps shot ever taken?
« Reply #192 on: April 11, 2011, 07:42:12 PM »
shawn is thin compared to Yates. actually there is no comparison. Yates kills him

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Re: The best rear double biceps shot ever taken?
« Reply #193 on: April 11, 2011, 07:45:23 PM »
You forgot to say, "Fuck that noise!"


I had hoped someone like yourself, someone that commands the respect of the forums would do so, for me.  Thank you sir!

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« Reply #194 on: April 11, 2011, 07:49:06 PM »
It is fact that for the greater part the genetic makeup of today's champions comes primarily from a pharmacy.  Dorian, Haney, Coleslaw, Gutler, Levrone, Ray, et al were nothing  but or only slightly above average sans any  performance enhancing drug use.  People here talk about "great receptors" as they relate to massive amounts of drugs as though they are the Holy Grail of bodybuilding. 

I would wager that given the hideous quantities of drugs these ass clowns now take, that on such drugs even one such as I, being a very small man, would become far, far above "average".  For proof look no further than the likes of such "shorter"  ;) greats as  Franco Columbu, Mohammed Makkawy, Danny Padilla, Larry Scott, Lee Priest and a host of names familiar to all but far too great in number than I wish to spend typing.

Look at them before any "performance enhancing" drugs and at the height of their hypocrisy.  And since many here will refute my words I ask that you question gh15 the truth of my supposition.  Is it true or not that drugs and the quantity thereof make the "man" and not authentic genetic superiority?  If he is honest, he shall answer "Yes!"

The difference goes beyond the ubiquitous night and day but that will have to suffice for most here would put on blinders so as to forever remain in the darkness of that night.

If this was true then how do you explain all the people who pump themselves full of the same drugs and look nothing close to what the people you listed have built physique wise? 

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« Reply #195 on: April 11, 2011, 08:00:37 PM »
I had hoped someone like yourself, someone that commands the respect of the forums would do so, for me.  Thank you sir!


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« Reply #196 on: April 11, 2011, 08:06:50 PM »
If this was true then how do you explain all the people who pump themselves full of the same drugs and look nothing close to what the people you listed have built physique wise? 

It is true.  Are they or are they not, larger, stronger and "better" built while on their drugs than before ever having taken them?  When off their drugs, even to the degree of lesser dosages, are they not smaller, weaker and not nearly as well built?  What next, sir?  Would you have me take a shitload (or would that be a "Dorianload" or a "Colemanload"  ;D) of drugs to make my point? 

Fuck that noise.  ;D

If any here, including yourself take or have taken these kinds of drugs, when were you at your "best" in terms of size, strength and "excellence" of build?  When you are on or off drugs?  Before ever having taken them, or at the height of a long and winding "cycle"?

To answer truthfully is to remove those blinders.  Or one could simply do as others have so obviously done and replace them with rose colored glasses.   ;)

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Re: The best rear double biceps shot ever taken?
« Reply #197 on: April 11, 2011, 08:08:22 PM »


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« Reply #198 on: April 11, 2011, 08:12:41 PM »
ND what gh is getting at is that Dorian had a shitty structure. He was built like Branch, but had a better back and crappy legs. He had a bigger waist, tiny biceps and weird legs.

This is of course compared to someone like brian buchanan, ronnie, flex etc. Those guys could have never done drugs and would have looked good, they had the structure. The same could not be said for dorian

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« Reply #199 on: April 11, 2011, 08:15:06 PM »
It is true.  Are they or are they not, larger, stronger and "better" built while on their drugs than before ever having taken them?  When off their drugs, even to the degree of lesser dosages, are they not smaller, weaker and not nearly as well built?  What next, sir?  Would you have me take a shitload (or would that be a "Dorianload" or a "Colemanload"  ;D) of drugs to make my point?  

Fuck that noise.  ;D

If any here, including yourself take or have taken these kinds of drugs, when were you at your "best" in terms of size, strength and "excellence" of build?  When you are on or off drugs?  Before ever having taken them, or at the height of a long and winding "cycle"?

To answer truthfully is to remove those blinders.  Or one could simply do as others have so obviously done and replace them with rose colored glasses.   ;)

So youre saying that.....steroids work?  Wow, my world just got rocked.
But you said you'd wager that on steroids you would become far above average, and that may not be so true, because it is genetically determined. Have you seen what goodrum looked like on steroids?  Pure shit.  How is this possible?  Genetics>drugs.
It is in fact you who has the blinders on, believing that anyone can take enough juice and become huge.  Dead wrong.