A story...
"Seagal would lose...badly. Read my Judo Gene Lebell thread. Lebell is an old man, although probably still one of the most rugged tough old S.O.B.'s alive. Seagal has a reputation for punking stunt guys, and fight choreographers while making his movies. Basically he tries to intimidate them, numerous reports of Seagal just coming up and hitting a guy in the balls, or grabbing a stunt man's balls and forcing them to the ground. Seagal heard of "Judo" Gene Lebell's credentials and of Lebell's great reputation as not only a great stuntman and fight choreographer, but also a genuine tough guy, with skills and real fighting ability. Seagal obviously buying into his own hype tried to pick a fight with Gene. He told Gene to see if his Judo groundfighting style could take him down. Lebell laughed it off and tried to walk away. Seagal was pushing it though and probably thought Lebell was intimidated. Seagal, reportedly, tried to smack Lebell in the nuts, Lebell stopped it, and somehow got behind Seagal and applied a light choke. Lebell even let go and kind of tapped Seagal on the butt, as in, "that was a good one" type of gesture. Seagal was enraged though and came at Lebell. Lebell told him that he better just back off but Seagal told him that Lebell just got lucky the first time and was lucky he let go when he did. He came at Gene, Gene once again twisted out of an aikido throw or whatever Seagal tried and got behind him. Once again Lebell applied a choke, only this time one that was meant to do damage. Seagal kept fighting, to his credit, and went for Lebell's nuts, reaching behind him, Lebell just tighened his legs around Seagal with lots of pressure and Seagal couldn't get leverage to get his hand to Lebell's nutsack. Then Seagal, in desperation now, tried to get to Lebell's eyes, he reached behind his head but Lebell buried his forehead and eyes into Seagal's shoulder blades. By this time Seagal was about out and going for the eyes did not work. Reportedly, and by many that were there, Seagal was choked unconcious, and then pissed on himself for further humiliation. Seagal has evidently taken Lebell to court, and others, and has tried through legal means to cover up this story. Using the fact that it could be detremental to his acting career, as a "tough guy", and potentially damage his career.
Seagal is a master at his martial art. As a streetfighter, anyone can be beaten, and Lebell is a master of Judo, but no matter what, and no matter how tough Gene is, he's still an old man. And Gene whipped Steven Seagal's ass, and it sounds like he wasn't even really trying. Now imagine Seagal in the octagon, where many of his most devastating moves are illegal and taken away from him.
Don't buy into all this bone breaking bullsquirt. Some of it is true, but Seagal, or no one else for that matter, is as bad as they are in a movie. Lebell's student who is not nearly as big as Seagal, Karo Parisyan , would beat the hell out of Seagal, easily."
