Per WSJ/NBC poll -81% of Respondent generally in favor of surtax on Millionaires

[Straw Man]

Hahaha, two retards patting each other on the back. Too funny. Meanwhile, he continues trying to hide the fact that he's a gigantic hypocrite. Now THAT isn't surprising.

Protip: If you're relying on Blacken for backup, you've already lost.

I don't need "backup"

all I need to do is read the poll which you claim shows 70% disaproval to see you're a liar

plain as day to anyone who can read

serious question - why didn't you just admit you mispoke?   Why the 2 pages of nonsense?

[Fury]

If only 35% supports something - especially after the govt spent $200 million of taxpayer money shilling for this pofs, doesnt that tell you fools something?  

Face it - your messiah is a failure, his bills are a failure, andhence by extension - you idiots still supporting him are a failure.  

Straw Man, kcballer, blacken and co.:

I don't need "backup"

all I need to do is read the poll which you claim shows 70% disaproval to see you're a liar

plain as day to anyone who can read

serious question - why didn't you just admit you mispoke?   Why the 2 pages of nonsense?

Because I didn't. You don't understand English. Businessweek and I do.

Serious question - why have you spent the last 1+ years refusing to admit that you were wrong about the Post Office and George Washington? Why 50+ pages of nonsense?  

[kcballer]

Or yours with Islam.  

Hahaha i don't tongue fu*k islam every chance i get  

Unlike you and 333 who seem to be rather close.  Perhaps romantic jetski getaways are in your future?

I guess anyone looks like they love islam when they take a balanced view of things and don't just typecast based on minority extremism.  

[Straw Man]

If only 35% supports something - especially after the govt spent $200 million of taxpayer money shilling for this pofs, doesnt that tell you fools something?  

Face it - your messiah is a failure, his bills are a failure, andhence by extension - you idiots still supporting him are a failure.  

52% approve of the way Barack Obama is handling health care according to that very same poll

that's a fact

you can even check it for yourself

[Fury]

Hahaha i don't tongue fu*k islam every chance i get  

Unlike you and 333 who seem to be rather close.  Perhaps romantic jetski getaways are in your future?

I guess anyone looks like they love islam when they take a balanced view of things and don't just typecast based on minority extremism.  

Bahahahahahahah! Good joke.

I actually don't agree with 333 on a lot of stuff. For starters, I'm all for things like gay marriage and abortion.

Sorry that we don't slobber Obama's knob like you and your buddies do. My bad for being rational and not acting like a pathetic sheeple.  

[Kazan]

52% approve of the way Barack Obama is handling health care according to that very same poll

that's a fact

you can even check it for yourself

And that is why polls are a fucking joke, how can a majority be against Obamacare, yet a majority approves of the way he is handling it, make alot of sense

[Straw Man]

Straw Man, kcballer, blacken and co.:



Because I didn't. You don't understand English. Businessweek and I do.

Serious question - why have you spent the last 1+ years refusing to admit that you were wrong about the Post Office and George Washington? Why 50+ pages of nonsense?  

really

the Businessweek article had the numbers correct (45% oppose and 35 approve) and conveniently left out that 52% approve of the way Barack Obama is handling health care according to that very same poll

Dunces like you come along and read the story and make a false conclusion and then run with it and when faced with the facts try to deny it

What's the big deal with just saying you were incorrect and moving on ?

[Fury]

It's funny that Straw Man has used this in an attempt to derail the thread from my exposing his hypocrisy.

Let's lay this out for the umpteenth time. Straw is crying that we should listen to the majority of Americans on this issue. Meanwhile, elitists like himself, who think they know better than everyone else have supported his God-King when:

- 60% of Americans favored restarting drilling in the Gulf. Obama instead chose to be held in contempt of court with regards to issuing permits.
- Over 60% of Americans supported Arizona's illegal immigration laws. Obama instead chose to sue the state.
- Libya: The majority of Americans were against intervention. Obama carried right on with it.

But NOW he wants to run with majority opinion. Why? Because it falls in line with his beliefs (for once).

He is a hypocrite. Plain and simple.

But it's not surprising given that he's spent over 1+ years denying that he was wrong on both his claim that the post office was doing well and the George Washington was as liberal as he is. And if I'm not mistaken, the Duke study last month was another thread where he embarrassed himself badly, as well. To be honest, there are too many examples of this guy embarrassing himself to count.

[Straw Man]

And that is why polls are a fucking joke, how can a majority be against Obamacare, yet a majority approves of the way he is handling it, make alot of sense

I don't disagree which I why whenever I see a poll quoted in a story I always try to find the actual poll and look at all the info

Newsmax and World Net Daily are by far the worst at that kind of shit

They will do a story on some poll (often with no author attributed to the story) and when you find the actual poll and read it you see the conclusions are nothing like what they are reported and often contrary to what they reported

[Soul Crusher]

I don't disagree which I why whenever I see a poll quoted in a story I always try to find the actual poll and look at all the info

Newsmax and World Net Daily are by far the worst at that kind of shit

They will do a story on some poll (often with no author attributed to the story) and when you find the actual poll and read it you see the conclusions are nothing like what they are reported and often contrary to what they reported

Gallup has your messiah at 42% today.   Are they far right?

[Straw Man]

It's funny that Straw Man has used this in an attempt to derail the thread from my exposing his hypocrisy.

Let's lay this out for the umpteenth time. Straw is crying that we should listen to the majority of Americans on this issue. Meanwhile, elitists like himself, who think they know better than everyone else have supported his God-King when:

- 60% of Americans favored restarting drilling in the Gulf. Obama instead chose to be held in contempt of court with regards to issuing permits.
- Over 60% of Americans supported Arizona's illegal immigration laws. Obama instead chose to sue the state.
- Libya: The majority of Americans were against intervention. Obama carried right on with it.

But NOW he wants to run with majority opinion. Why? Because it falls in line with his beliefs (for once).

He is a hypocrite. Plain and simple.

derail the thread ?

I started the thread and it wasn't even about health care

you piped in with a false statement and I asked you for the source and when you were too lazy even provided the source for you

the person who derailed the thread was you

[Straw Man]

Gallup has your messiah at 42% today.   Are they far right?

beats me

you got a link ?

[Fury]

No. Like I've said five times now, healthcare was an EXAMPLE. You could substitute anything out for it (Arizona's immigration law is a good example) and the point that you're a hypocrite still stands. Why is that hard for you to grasp?

[Soul Crusher]

beats me

you got a link ?

www.gallup.com

[Straw Man]

www.gallup.com

meh - 3 day rolling average

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

don't really know what significance it has

btw - even if he was @ 80% approval would it change one single solitary opinion that you have about him?

[Straw Man]

No. Like I've said five times now, healthcare was an EXAMPLE. You could substitute anything out for it (Arizona's immigration law is a good example) and the point that you're a hypocrite still stands. Why is that hard for you to grasp?

and your example was proven to be false

if you want to make some other assertions then provide the source data or will assume you are lying again

[Fury]

meh - 3 day rolling average

And here's the typical Straw Man hypocrisy again. Anytime this guy is presented with poll facts that aren't in line with his far-left beliefs he immediately tries to discredit them or play the results down. Yet now he's sitting here praising the WSJ poll because, for once, the majority opinion lines up with his.

What a shitty troll.

[Straw Man]

And here's the typical Straw Man hypocrisy again. Anytime this guy is presented with poll facts that aren't in line with his far-left beliefs he immediately tries to discredit them or play the results down. Yet now he's sitting here praising the WSJ poll because, for once, the majority opinion lines up with his.

What a shitty troll.

where did you present poll facts?

[Fury]

where did you present poll facts?

Talking about Gallup in this instance, you illiterate retard. Are your reading comprehension skills really THAT bad?

[Straw Man]

Talking about Gallup in this instance, you illiterate retard. Are your reading comprehension skills really THAT bad?

what's your problem with my response

I said I don't think a  three day rolling average of favorability means much (that is my opinion) and I gave you a link to a chart (which I'm sure you didn't bother to look at to that that he's been up and down inside a 10 point range)

that's what you're trying to call my hypocrisy?

what would be a "BF acceptable reponse" to that three day rolling average?

[MM2K]

Call this the envy tax. It results in about $7 billion of extra revenue each year. Not near enough to be worth the risk of hurting job creation.

[Straw Man]

Call this the envy tax. It results in about $7 billion of extra revenue each year. Not near enough to be worth the risk of hurting job creation.

which tax are you referring to?

[kcballer]

Call this the envy tax. It results in about $7 billion of extra revenue each year. Not near enough to be worth the risk of hurting job creation.

Taxation doesn't hurt job creation any more than lowering taxes increases job creation.  Jobs are created out of need not out of ability to afford.  

Edit - Just wanted to add excessive taxation will cause less jobs to be created, but excessive is the key word and honestly it's hard to say what is and is not.  We had a low unemployment rate with tax rates at or above current levels.  What will cutting them then do when business has already proven it's not necessary through years of low unemployment?  My guess is share buybacks or a nice dividend for shareholders.  The truth is we are a country that is run on consumer ability to spend.  When that was cut, so too were jobs in that area of the economy.  Until people start consuming again there is no sense in hiring anyone. 

[Straw Man]

Taxation doesn't hurt job creation any more than lowering taxes increases job creation.  Jobs are created out of need not out of ability to afford. 

proven many times but still somehow the myth persists or perhaps it's just the Repubs (politician - not voters) don't really give a rats ass about jobs or the economy and only care about their uber wealthy patrons (including those "people" who don't breath our air or drink our water and have no allegiance to our country.......corporatio ns)

[Kazan]

proven many times but still somehow the myth persists or perhaps it's just the Repubs (politician - not voters) don't really give a rats ass about jobs or the economy and only care about their uber wealthy patrons (including those "people" who don't breath our air or drink our water and have no allegiance to our country.......corporatio ns)

Dude please, you act like the Dems are any better, they are just as if not more in the pockets of the highest bidder.