GOP Panic Over Obama Budget Speech

[Option D]

It's about time those tax breaks for the priveleged were ended. BO's taking the gloves off now.

Boom

[Kazan]

It's about time those tax breaks for the priveleged were ended. BO's taking the gloves off now.

The "privileged" ?

[Soul Crusher]

Amazing how you idiots still buy into the things he says vs what he does. 

[MCWAY]

It's about time those tax breaks for the priveleged were ended. BO's taking the gloves off now.

He screamed that he would end the Bush tax cuts. But, in the end, he capitulated and extended them.

He was supposed to close Gitmo last year; it's still open and the tribunals will resume.

He was supposed to end two wars; he's started a THIRD one.

Yet, we're supposed to believe he's really going to fight, now? PLEASE!!! He'll grovel to whomever he needs to do so, if it means saving his hide in 2012.

[Dr Loomis]

He screamed that he would end the Bush tax cuts. But, in the end, he capitulated and extended them.

He was supposed to close Gitmo last year; it's still open and the tribunals will resume.

He was supposed to end two wars; he's started a THIRD one.

Yet, we're supposed to believe he's really going to fight, now? PLEASE!!! He'll grovel to whomever he needs to do so, if it means saving his hide in 2012.

He didn't stick to his guns and has realized it did no good politically. He knows he has to go out on a limb to get re-elected and that's what he's doing. Ending the tax cuts is a great start.

[Dr Loomis]

The "privileged" ?

I think it's a term that fits the wealthiest 3% or so of society. Athletes, entertainers, CEO's and the like. Good for BO for forcing them to step up to the plate.

[Kazan]

I think it's a term that fits the wealthiest 3% or so of society. Athletes, entertainers, CEO's and the like. Good for BO for forcing them to step up to the plate.

They are already at the plate, and just because the federal government can't control itself and budget properly, doesn't mean those that have found success should be penalized for it.

[Straw Man]

He screamed that he would end the Bush tax cuts. But, in the end, he capitulated and extended them.

He was supposed to close Gitmo last year; it's still open and the tribunals will resume.

He was supposed to end two wars; he's started a THIRD one.

Yet, we're supposed to believe he's really going to fight, now? PLEASE!!! He'll grovel to whomever he needs to do so, if it means saving his hide in 2012.

Tax cuts were extented in order to get Republican­s and Bluedogs onboard to vote for continued unemployme­nt insurance payments and to end the Filibuster of the bill

Congr­ess essentially prevented the President from closing Gitmo by prohibiting prosecution in U.S. federal courts and making it extremely difficult to transfer them to other countries (still he did say he would close it so he loses on that)

UN Security Council voted to impose a no-fly zone over Libya at the request of the people of Libya in order to prevent Gaddafi from crushing the rebellion.­We are,by law passed by our Congress,p­art of the United Nations.
(btw - I am was not in favor of uni-lateral intervention in Lyba and not really in favor of any intervention at all)

Regarding 2012 - who knows.  Many Dems are disappointed with Obama's seeming acquiescence to the Repubs (and I agree with Van Jones that Dems need to learn how to be assholes like the Repubs) but the key in the election will be who his challenger is.   A far right wing looney (like the majority of the potential candidates) will have no chance.   According to Repubs Obama is the worst POTUS ever (and some think he's a communist sleeper cell unto himself) but yet almost no one is willing to step on a declare themselves a candidate.   I predict the Repub candidate will be either Romney or  Pawlenty (my guess would be Pawlenty).   I don't think Romney has a any change of beating Obama.  We don't know enough about Pawlenty yet.    It looked like McCain was going to take it in 2008 until he shot himself in the foot with Palin and then shot his other foot by going nutty and shutting down his campaign

[Kazan]

1)So the dems were more interested in extending unemployment "benefits" then actually creating an environment conducive to job creation.
2)If the "enemy combatants" at gitmo are not US citizens then they have no right to our legal system
3) I wasn't aware a NFZ, consisted of attacking ground targets.
4) Why would anyone want to run for POTUS at this point? One party rule is a disaster for the America and we have seen that from both parties.

[MB]

It's about time those tax breaks for the priveleged were ended. BO's taking the gloves off now.

If we default on our debt payment, Obama will have to tuck his tail between his legs and actually make spending cuts for the first time ever.

[Straw Man]

1)So the dems were more interested in extending unemployment "benefits" then actually creating an environment conducive to job creation.it wasn't an either or situation.  Come on man, this was only 4 months ago.  you know what happened

2)If the "enemy combatants" at gitmo are not US citizens then they have no right to our legal system so we have the legal authority to declare any non-US citizen and enemy combatant and then hold them indefinitely without charges or a trial

3) I wasn't aware a NFZ, consisted of attacking ground targets. this is a joke right?  you don't think taking out ground target such as anti aircraft installation, etc.. are necessary to establish a no fly zone?

4) Why would anyone want to run for POTUS at this point? One party rule is a disaster for the America and we have seen that from both parties.can't argue with this one

[Straw Man]

If we default on our debt payment, Obama will have to tuck his tail between his legs and actually make spending cuts for the first time ever.

or raise taxes or more likely both

[Kazan]

1) 99 weeks of UE a month and week short of 2 years, the Dems spent all their time fucking with healthcare reform and ignoring the 500 pound gorilla in the room (the economy)

2) When the US had balls, anyone  fighting without a uniform would have been considered a spy and executed. We should have left them in whatever country, let them interrogate them and disappear them afterwards.

3) Sure but tanks, artillery, and infantry?

[MCWAY]

He didn't stick to his guns and has realized it did no good politically. He knows he has to go out on a limb to get re-elected and that's what he's doing. Ending the tax cuts is a great start.

Hardly!! Because guess whose taxes go up......YOURS and MINE!!

If YOU want to give Uncle Sam more of your own money, knock yourself out. I'll keep mine and use it to feed my wife and kids.

As you've clearly seen with Obama's pals and other rich folk, they'll find a way to keep their money. They aren't going to get screwed; YOU ARE!!

[Straw Man]

1) 99 weeks of UE a month and week short of 2 years, the Dems spent all their time fucking with healthcare reform and ignoring the 500 pound gorilla in the room (the economy)  you really think they ignored the economy.  Did you miss the 1000 threads about the stimulus (that even Repubs say created jobs), the auto bailout, bank bail out, etc...

2) When the US had balls, anyone  fighting without a uniform would have been considered a spy and executed. We should have left them in whatever country, let them interrogate them and disappear them afterwards.many of the people there were just captured by local rivals and given to the US with no proof of anything

3) Sure but tanks, artillery, and infantry?  well I'm not a proponent of intervention in the first place but I see no problem with any of those targets in creating a safer environment to create a NFZ.   The bigger problem is that someone in the US recently floated the idea of ground troops and I would have a HUGE problem with that and think it would be a disaster

[MB]

or raise taxes or more likely both

Most likely both, however burdening the wealthy with even higher tax rates won't work, they will simply leave the country. 

[Kazan]

1) The stimulus, bailouts..... only delayed the inevitable, while at the same time sending the deficit spiraling out of control

2) Another reason to leave them where they were

3) A NFZ means no aircraft, as in NO FLY ZONE, tanks, artillery, and infantry generally don't fly. The POTUS is just to gutless to call it what it is. And no we should not be involved in the first place

[Dr Loomis]

They are already at the plate, and just because the federal government can't control itself and budget properly, doesn't mean those that have found success should be penalized for it.

They're not being penalized, they're being held to an equal standard. Seems reasonable.

[Kazan]

They're not being penalized, they're being held to an equal standard. Seems reasonable.

Equal standard to who? The 50% that don't pay anything? You are just going to have to explain to me why you think it is alright to take from the productive and give to the non-productive.

How come the government is never held responsible for them fucking up the tax code which allows the "rich" loopholes......., seems to me the simple answer would be to fix that and quit spending money like its cool

[Shockwave]

Most likely both, however burdening the wealthy with even higher tax rates won't work, they will simply leave the country. 

This.
The whole notion of trying to punish those who make a lot of money doesnt make sense, many of them have a way to operate outside the system anyway, so whatll happen is they will just take and go around the system more.

The whole shit is fucked, people on the far end of both sides just point the finger, people with nothing want to take it from the people with lots, people with a lot of money want to keep more and give away less, and the people in between get fucked.

What ever happened to the middle of the road?
And as far as Obama is concerned, I agree that he totally fucked the pooch as far as the economy is concerned, as much as I hate to throw the words around like the extreme conservatives, Obama's stance really reminds me of a borderline socialist, everyone I know of that has come from communist/socialist countries have told me that hes taking us down the same road they went down, and that nothing good can come of it....

[Soul Crusher]

Funny that communists see obama what he is, yet those sheepish lemmings in this country still fawn ovr every bullshit laden speech he gives, regardless of the content. 

[Shockwave]

He was the only president to get a healthcare reform bill passed.. he did "something" as well..

Yeah epic job on that one...
Not.
I agree that something needs to be done, but Obamas bill was a fucking disaster.
So if you really want to give him that one, go ahead. Just more evidence to how terribad of a president the man is.

[Dr Loomis]

Equal standard to who?

Seize assets of any US corporation that moves off shore so they don't have to pay taxes
Cut and freeze illegals and welfare breeders on Social Security and Medicare
Flat 20% tax on everyone

You have a problem with any of these things?

[Kazan]

Seize assets of any US corporation that moves off shore so they don't have to pay taxes
Cut and freeze illegals and welfare breeders on Social Security and Medicare
Flat 20% tax on everyone

You have a problem with any of these things?

No, why would I? Will never happen in my or my kids life time

[Dr Loomis]

Exactly, it's not Obama, it's the fact that this country will never get anything done that has to be done, regardless of who's in power. It will never happen because of the pc moral majority, whatever that is. That's what makes politics as hopeless to find a perfect resolution as their is proof of gods existence.