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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #75 on: April 16, 2011, 01:09:57 PM »
Im pretty sure GH15 is legit, in that thread with hazbin their is some talk where you can tell they know each other, and like Groink says, no one exposes him and those in the know seem to respect him.

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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #76 on: April 16, 2011, 01:34:03 PM »
Nasser won this show.

And GH15 is legit on bodybuilding and the general degradation of society and pop culture, he oversteps it sometimes with speculative shit about things he isn't well informed on. But overall he is a good guy.
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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #77 on: April 16, 2011, 01:39:23 PM »
Nasser won this show.

And GH15 is legit on bodybuilding and the general degradation of society and pop culture, he oversteps it sometimes with speculative shit about things he isn't well informed on. But overall he is a good guy.
Nasser was DQ'd

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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #78 on: April 16, 2011, 01:41:35 PM »
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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #79 on: April 16, 2011, 01:43:22 PM »
Nasser was DQ'd

More likely he was DP'd by the Weiner...errrrr...Weider lads. ;D

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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #80 on: April 16, 2011, 02:47:02 PM »
not really. .two guys bickering,  no real "winner". another day at Getbig

Like I said I'm on the fence because it seems ludicrous right from the jump.

but as usual...you "know better" based on your opnion

I know better because I have no reason what so ever to believe he's a current professional and I need a tad more proof than ' yes I am , go ask around and you'll see '

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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #81 on: April 16, 2011, 03:14:22 PM »
I went to that Olympia.

When the contestants first appeared, Nassar looked like the clear winner, especially standing relaxed.  He aslo won the FDB.

When they turned around in the first comparison, it's was crystal clear that Yates was going to win again, as he destroyed him convincingly.   Same with the side-tri.  Ab/thigh was close.
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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #82 on: April 16, 2011, 03:49:18 PM »
I'm 100% sure you are a TROLL, I don't know how you are a mod but I guess sometimes that just happens (see pupmster). So, because Dorian said that it must be true... what are you a 14 yo kid or what?  he also said that he never used insulin, so it must be true too, right?




  Dorian did not use duretics at the 1996 Olympia. He used them in every other year, but not 1996. The 1996 Olympia was tested for diuretics, and Dorian especifically said he didn't use them at the 1996 Olympia. Even if Dorian could beat the test, do you think he would risk losing his title because of a drug? Dorian has no reasons to lie, since he always admitted to using steroids and other drugs. Here is a quote from his from an interview he gave to the German version of Muscle&Fitness back in 1994 answering the question whether he used steroids and other drugs:

 "All professional bodybuilders use steroids. You cannot compete at the highest levels of many sports without steroids and other anabolics. There is testosterone, Deca, orals and more sophisticated drugs like IGF-1 and GH. What really upsets me are people who reduce success in bodybuilding to steroids and nothing more. They greatly underestimate the importance of what we do in the gym. I can prove how hard I work by pointing out all the injuries I've got over the years. Ask yourself: we all take pretty much the same drugs, so why do some of us look great at the contests, whilst others don't? Because what separates bodybuilders is the hard work and consistency of that hard work over years."

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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #83 on: April 16, 2011, 04:12:06 PM »


we always lie to your kids eyes,,DONT YOU GET IT WE ALWAYS FUCKIN LIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE,,yes we may tell you we use some test,,or some deca and dianabol at 296mg a week total lol i keep tellin you to always multiple by 4 at the least for old generation ,,anything said multiple by 4!



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LOL 296mg total HAHAHA that was great gh15

When they turned around in the first comparison, it's was crystal clear that Yates was going to win again, as he destroyed him convincingly.   Same with the side-tri.  Ab/thigh was close.

Totally agree. Nasser was better from the front.

From the side Dorian was a bit better and from the back Dorian just destroyed everyone. It wasn't some slight definition, Dorian was a pro compared to amateurs from the back and that's compared to everyone not just Nasser.

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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #84 on: April 16, 2011, 04:27:13 PM »
I used to like Nasser as a bodybuilder,and he was great at one time,but the Nasser hype on getbig board killed that for me.


Same thing happened for Lee and Sean Rhey.
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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #85 on: April 16, 2011, 04:35:36 PM »

 "All professional bodybuilders use steroids. You cannot compete at the highest levels of many sports without steroids and other anabolics. There is testosterone, Deca, orals and more sophisticated drugs like IGF-1 and GH. What really upsets me are people who reduce success in bodybuilding to steroids and nothing more. They greatly underestimate the importance of what we do in the gym. I can prove how hard I work by pointing out all the injuries I've got over the years. Ask yourself: we all take pretty much the same drugs, so why do some of us look great at the

contests, whilst others don't? Because what separates bodybuilders is the hard work and consistency of that hard work over years."


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let me answer dorian ....not like i didnt in real life but ill answer it here for everyone to see,,


we do all take the same drugs,,but! the importane of what you do in the gym is nothing like the importance of how consistant you are in your drug taking,,for!! it is not the one who do little cycle here and therre who advance ot the next level...it is the ones who CONSISTANTLY HORMNIZING HIMSELF YEAR AFTER YARS months after months and ONLY THEN can build upon what he already achieved,,it is the consistancy and the build up of the hormone in the blood,,the levles needed to change a physiqe to ACTUALY CREATE SOLID CONSTANT CHANGES and not some water and fat and bloofiness that will be made to belieev by your own will  that it is lean muscle....doesnt work this way ,,

the reason we are the best is because of our respond to the hormones that we take consistantly and with out a break,,we change between them,,

funny how no one mention trenbololna ace which is dorian more favortie drug ...he keep saying deca test yada dee yada daa but in reality it is the trenbolona and gh that make the greates most solid most dramatic change to a physiqe in all aspect from develkopment to hardness to dryness to detail to bodyfat reduction to the addition of TRUE LEAN MUSCLE TISSUE,,

YES SOME BODYBUILDERS WORK VERY HARD,,BUT I GARENTEE YOU THAT WITH OUT THE CONSISTANT HORMONIZATION NOTHING WILL HAPPEN BESIDE INJURIES AND MORE INJURIES AND NOT ONLY THAT BUT IF YOU TRAIN TOO HARD AND TOO SERIOUS WITH OUT HORMONIZATION YOU WILL START SHRINKING AND START STIFFENING YOUR OWN MUSCLES WILL FAIL ON AND OWN YOU! OWN YOU BECAUSE THE HARDER YOU WIL WORK WITH OUT CONSTANT HORMONIZATION....THE WORSE YOU WILL LOOK ...MARK MY WORD,,IT IS ALWAYS POSSIBEL TO BE SMALL THIN AND RIPPED,,BUT BODYBUILD IS WHO CAN BRING THE BETTER CONDITIONED SIZE,,,SIZE IS ONE OF THE WORDS,,C O N D I T I O N E D SIZE MEANING YOU NEED TO BE SHOWING DECENT SIZE 180 200 220 240 THAT IS CONDITIONED INTO THE 4-7 % BODYFAT ,,ONLY THEN ONLY THEN YOU WILL LOOK LIKE COMPETETIVE BODYBUILD ... ONLY THEN  YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT SEPERATE TOP BODYBUILD FROM LOWER LEVEL BODYBUILD IS

1 THE DOSE AND QUALITY OF PRODUCT

2 THE RESPOND TO IT

3 THE CONSISTANCY IN TAKING IT

WE NEVER FUCKIN GO OFF! 3 WEEKS IS NOT OFF BUT EVEN 3 WEEKS WE DONT TAKE ,,WE CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE! PRODUCTS AND DORIAN KNWO IT ,,AND NOT ONLY THAT BUT MANY OF US REMAIN ON SAME PRODUCTS FOR 6 MONTHS ,,WE SAY SOMETHING AND DO SOMETHING ELSE,,I KEEP TELLIN YOU THAT,,BODYBUILD DONT WANT TO SHARE SECRET ,,IN REALITY THE SECRET TIMES OF BODYBUILDING IS LONG GONE ,,IT HAS BEEN GONE ALREADY 6 YEARS FROM THE TIME GOD OF HORMONES WAS INTRODUCED TO SOCIETY


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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #86 on: April 16, 2011, 08:47:43 PM »
Not really. ....I was around back then and I thought the same thing. Overrated.

I can appreciate from a BBing standpoint the mass he carried. but I didn't like the way he was put together and I thought his muscle quality was sub-par.

Nasser was the Anti-Dorian. ..he looked unreal in pictures but when you saw him in person he didn't look as good.

i will pass your opinion to alx 23 >:(

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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #87 on: April 16, 2011, 09:02:53 PM »
I went to that Olympia.

When the contestants first appeared, Nassar looked like the clear winner, especially standing relaxed.  He aslo won the FDB.

When they turned around in the first comparison, it's was crystal clear that Yates was going to win again, as he destroyed him convincingly.   Same with the side-tri.  Ab/thigh was close.


no yates was not better in the side tri (in 96)!!..

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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #88 on: April 16, 2011, 09:41:21 PM »
no yates was not better in the side tri (in 96)!!..

Nasser can't even hit the pose right.

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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #89 on: April 16, 2011, 10:39:07 PM »
dorian in 96 was clearly worse than his best although after the show he kept saying he presented his best ever shape ;D

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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #90 on: April 17, 2011, 05:10:22 AM »
Regarding Dorian and his drug usage. Anyone know/remember a guy named Brian Batcheldor?

He used to write for T-mag and he was really sophisticated and knowledgeable about drug use. So I wonder if he advised Dorian. Can't find the articles he wrote, seem erased,  but remember him saying he advised 2 Mr O competitors and and an example of an off-season stack was 2 grams of test and 2 grams of Deca + 200mg of Dbol daily. There were a lot of more uncommon drugs used as well.

The dude works with the deadlifter Andy Bolton nowadays.

http://www.qfac.com/advice/brian.html


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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #91 on: April 17, 2011, 05:20:04 AM »
Can't find the articles he wrote, seem erased,



Found one article. Remember, this guy is in the UK.

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The S-Files
By Brian Batcheldor


The one question that I get most often is, "What's the biggest dosage you've ever heard of anyone taking?" The answer is, "A lot." However, most of the reports on this topic are grossly exaggerated, with the Andreas Muntzer case being typical. Poor Andreas will go down in the medical journals for his unprecedented levels of abuse simply because of a cycle found written on a piece of paper in his possession. However, those that knew him know that this was only a commonly utilized ploy to partially protect someone from prosecution if they were caught in possession of quantities indicative of dealing.

Another fallacy is that today's pros have laid down a blueprint for death by virtue of their mega dose-induced mass. The trail of thought here is that today's pros are only big because they take far more drugs than the pros of yesteryear. The competitive bodybuilder of the '90s is assumed to be an all-knowing alchemist with far more pills and potions available to him than his predecessors. Even those who don't have "the knowledge" have their own secret guru, available for a modest fee, who holds the keys to eternal mass.

The fact that football players, basketball players, boxers, track and field athletes, and Joe Public are bigger and leaner than his or her counterparts from the '70s and '80s seems to be irrelevant. And the fact that there's far more technology available regarding nutrition, quality coaching, training facilities, and self-education media doesn't seem to count for much, either. If you consider that there are simply more people on the planet than ever before, and that a higher percentage of these people now go to the gym, it seems not only possible, but likely, that some genetic freaks are going to surface.

So who perpetuates these myths? Usually bitter ex-pros from the bygone age—so-called gurus that nobody actually seems to acknowledge, let alone confide in with their most intimate secrets. Or sad, twisted individuals who blame everything—from Elvis' constipation to Arnold's acting—on anabolics, yet whose own potential for cell growth shadows that of an amoeba.

In truth, some of the most extreme examples of abuse that I am aware of took place in the late '70s and early '80s. I personally know two powerlifters and five top-level bodybuilders (two Olympia competitors) who have admitted to taking between 50 and 100 dianabol a day during the '70s. They also claim that they knew many other top-level athletes who have done the same, along with taking various injectables, also in huge dosages. Some of them knew athletes that became very ill from their practice without realizing the cause. The funny thing is that, in many instances, the doctors did not recognize the cause, either—typically cross-questioning the patient about alcoholism even after hearing what they had been taking. This demonstrates how easy it is for the facts to become buried.

I also know one top strength athlete who admitted to regularly taking 100 dianabol a day and two 5,000-mg doses of testosterone per week during the weeks prior to a competition. He would also train on amphetamine and use sleeping pills to allow him to sleep twice a day, all during the innocent '70s and early '80s. By this man's own admission, if he had not injured himself seriously in preparation for the world championships, he probably would have died.

One world powerlifting champion told me that, in the early '80s, he would usually inject 10 ml of stanazolol (yes, that's 500 mg) a day for the last month before a contest. Another told me of his friend who took eight Anadrol a day until he was hospitalized.

The most extreme example that I've ever heard was confessed to me by a former British Olympia competitor. During the preparation for his last show, in the '80s, he took two Anadrol, ten dianabol, six Halotestin, and 100 Anavar a day. On top of this, he also injected 4,000 mg of Deca, 2,000 mg of testosterone cypionate, 400 mg of Winstrol, and 400 mg of Primobolan per week. Add to this Thiomucase injections, thyroxine, Nolvadex, and Esiclene, but make sure that you don't cremate this SOB when he goes because he'll probably burn for a week! These are just a few examples, but I have heard of many such claims throughout the years.

The argument that there are more advanced drugs and variety available to today's competitor is flawed. I accept that there's more knowledge of drug use today and that growth hormone is probably the single-greatest advancement in the ergogen profile, but GH was also available to those who endured the '80s. Besides, the lack of knowledge often led to more abuse, not less.

However, athletes today will never know the benefits of some of the now discontinued drugs used by "those who point the finger." Just ask Dan Duchaine or Jeff Feliciano about the effectiveness of drugs like Roxilon, bolasterone, Anatrofin, thiomesterone, Finaject...I'm sorry, I can't go on without getting emotional. God, I miss them!

Sure, there's still plenty of abuse today. I know several Olympia competitors that are taking 30-40 dianabol a day and around 2,000 mg of both Deca and cypionate per week during the off-season. Some national competitors are taking much more.

Typically, today's pro will use a minimum of six products in his build-up for a show, but that doesn't include thyroid, clenbuterol, Cytadren, Nolvadex, insulin, insulin agonists, and diuretics. Some use more exotic specials like IGF, prostaglandins, EPO, Synthol, heparin, glucagon, osmotic diuretics, topical fat-burning products, and opiate-based anti-catabolics, like Nubain and Buprenex. GH use is obviously quite common, too, and the standard dosage is usually around 8-20 IU a day.

For obvious reasons, I cannot go into the personal dosages of any of the athletes that I advise. But I hope that this will help you, perhaps, see things in a different light the next time you hear weary dribblings of the "out of touch" antagonists and the "wannabe" experts.

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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #92 on: April 17, 2011, 05:25:47 AM »
no yates was not better in the side tri (in 96)!!..

No he was much better  ;) Nasser doesn't even know how to do the pose , nothing new with him

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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #93 on: April 17, 2011, 08:58:08 AM »
Van B,
great find!

another interesting line from that article...

"The most extreme example that I've ever heard was confessed to me by a former British Olympia competitor. During the preparation for his last show, in the '80s, he took two Anadrol, ten dianabol, six Halotestin, and 100 Anavar a day. On top of this, he also injected 4,000 mg of Deca, 2,000 mg of testosterone cypionate, 400 mg of Winstrol, and 400 mg of Primobolan per week."

just goes to show what cycles were being run by the pros....BACK IN THE 80'S!!
and people doubt the dosages of today!!!??



ONE OTHER THING TO POINT OUT....no disrespect to gh15, he's doing his job in making sure people knwo the truth today, but looks like this Brian Batcheldor guy was spilling all this out in that article way back and well before gh15, the only differene it seems is just couldnt do it to the same level of audience (internet) that gh15 has captured in todays society.

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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #94 on: April 18, 2011, 04:04:27 PM »


I would have ran too  :-X

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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #95 on: April 18, 2011, 04:46:36 PM »
people believe everything they read in Flex magazine because it is the gospel truth  ::)

i can tell you there was no official diuretics testing- Nasser was made an example of, it was to "prove" to the public the IFBB "cared" about the health of their athletes after the death of Munzer

again, there was no actual diuretics testing- do you think de milia was goign to spend alot of $ on expensive drug test- this would mean less profit for De milia- this was always the bottom line for de milia- his profit , not the health of the BB's

Kevin Levrone graciously allowed Nasser to keep the 3rd place trophy and medal because Kevin knew it was the honorable thing to do after the debacle of the "positive diuretics test"

anyone who knows about competing knows ALL competitors use it, naturals, amateurs and all pro's

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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #96 on: April 18, 2011, 04:58:52 PM »
The IFBB  power clique of de milia, manion et al did things the way they chose- it is a very corrupt organisation.

@ the 97 O, Lee priest has placed 4th ahead of levrone.

Levrone was so upset and distraught about this backstage they changed it around so Lee was 6th and kevin put forward to 4th.

there are many things fans have no idea about, you have to be in the know from ppl who were there in the inner circle

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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #97 on: April 18, 2011, 05:20:11 PM »
The IFBB  power clique of de milia, manion et al did things the way they chose- it is a very corrupt organisation.

@ the 97 O, Lee priest has placed 4th ahead of levrone.

Levrone was so upset and distraught about this backstage they changed it around so Lee was 6th and kevin put forward to 4th.

there are many things fans have no idea about, you have to be in the know from ppl who were there in the inner circle

I believe this.  guys like ND who quote these BBing rags as Gospel, and regurgitated judging "criteria" are laughably naive

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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #98 on: April 18, 2011, 05:23:03 PM »
I believe this.  guys like ND who quote these BBing rags as Gospel, and regurgitated judging "criteria" are laughably naive

x2!

groink knows the reality of the IFBB

the articles "WRITTEN"A BY THE pro's are most of the time ghost written by tom deters- since when were IFBB pro's so articulate and well written

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Re: Nasser looked great at the 96 O
« Reply #99 on: April 18, 2011, 05:23:59 PM »
I believe this.  guys like ND who quote these BBing rags as Gospel, and regurgitated judging "criteria" are laughably naive

Yeah you would believe ' the sawmi ' he's a lot more credible   ::) you're willfully ignorant