Author Topic: Online Poker .... (Read 4584 times)

JimmyJam1974 · « **on:** April 15, 2011, 06:03:20 PM »

Is fucked... Online poker companies indicted for fraud

http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/15/news/economy/online_poker_indictments/index.htm?hpt=T2

Rearden Metal · « **Reply #1 on:** April 15, 2011, 06:10:15 PM »

I hate this fucking bullshit. Thank God I don't play for a living online anymore.

JimmyJam1974 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 15, 2011, 06:12:13 PM »

Quote from: Rearden Metal on April 15, 2011, 06:10:15 PM

I hate this fucking bullshit. Thank God I don't play for a living online anymore.

Got to admit though.. those sites were doing some shady shite

TacoBell · « **Reply #3 on:** April 15, 2011, 06:18:52 PM »

Thank god my government is watching out for me, a lot of danger in playing a game I enjoy.

Rearden Metal · « **Reply #4 on:** April 15, 2011, 06:25:27 PM »

Quote from: JimmyJam1974 on April 15, 2011, 06:12:13 PM

Got to admit though.. those sites were doing some shady shite

Actually, Stars and Full Tilt were almost definitely not. Huge player pools paying billions in rake yearly, absolutely no reason to mess with that. The smaller sites, yes for sure. But anyone dumb enough to play on those deserved what they got (ok, not the initial guys like Booth and Prahlad, but the later ones who played after knowing the history).

JimmyJam1974 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 15, 2011, 06:30:00 PM »

Quote from: Rearden Metal on April 15, 2011, 06:25:27 PM

Actually, Stars and Full Tilt were almost definitely not. Huge player pools paying billions in rake yearly, absolutely no reason to mess with that. The smaller sites, yes for sure. But anyone dumb enough to play on those deserved what they got (ok, not the initial guys like Booth and Prahlad, but the later ones who played after knowing the history).

This is shady.. there are other ways for players to deposit real money.

"The companies allegedly arranged for the money from U.S. gamblers to be disguised as payments to hundreds of non-existent online merchants for the purchase of items such as jewelry and golf balls, according to the indictment."

TacoBell · « **Reply #6 on:** April 15, 2011, 06:34:54 PM »

Quote from: JimmyJam1974 on April 15, 2011, 06:30:00 PM

This is shady.. there are other ways for players to deposit real money.

"The companies allegedly arranged for the money from U.S. gamblers to be disguised as payments to hundreds of non-existent online merchants for the purchase of items such as jewelry and golf balls, according to the indictment."

This was only done because the US government has deemed online poker to be illegal. Billions of US dollars willingly and happily spent playing, but the government decides that its no ok so the owners are forced into 'fraudulent behavior'.
Now we can all sit back and watch the 'justice system' and work, blowing millions of dollars so that we can sleep well at night knowing nobody is playing online poker.

Captain Equipoise · « **Reply #7 on:** April 15, 2011, 06:38:07 PM »

I have a buddy that's basically somewhere on the scale like Alex23 here in T.O he was offered $300,000 a few years
ago (6,7) to write the code for an offshore gambling site, they implied that he was to make the odds/variables very easy to change/control, he declined the offer as he didn't want his reputation stained.

MAXX · « **Reply #8 on:** April 15, 2011, 06:53:22 PM »

I have always been suspicious of gambling online. Did it once for fun but never caught the bug.

You never know what these crooks will do. Authorities can't keep check on them all the time.

TacoBell · « **Reply #9 on:** April 15, 2011, 06:58:49 PM »

Quote from: MAXX on April 15, 2011, 06:53:22 PM

I have always been suspicious of gambling online. Did it once for fun but never caught the bug.

You never know what these crooks will do. Authorities can't keep check on them all the time.

'Authorities' shouldnt have to. How about personal responsibility and play at your own risk?

robcguns · « **Reply #10 on:** April 15, 2011, 07:37:42 PM »

I played 3 card poker on bodog about 3 months ago and put in 500 and cashed out at just over 7000.00,it was a good night.

outby43 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 15, 2011, 08:03:50 PM »

Quote from: robcguns on April 15, 2011, 07:37:42 PM

I played 3 card poker on bodog about 3 months ago and put in 500 and cashed out at just over 7000.00,it was a good night.

post your bank transaction or I call bullshit.

chaos · « **Reply #12 on:** April 15, 2011, 08:31:49 PM »

Quote from: TacoBell on April 15, 2011, 06:58:49 PM

'Authorities' shouldnt have to. How about personal responsibility?

The #1 biggest problem in the world, nobody is taught to take personal responsibility.

TacoBell · « **Reply #13 on:** April 15, 2011, 09:14:35 PM »

Quote from: chaos on April 15, 2011, 08:31:49 PM

The #1 biggest problem in the world, nobody is taught to take personal responsibility.

JimmyJam1974 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 16, 2011, 05:56:15 AM »

BoDog and playersonly appear to both be operational in the US

robcguns · « **Reply #15 on:** April 16, 2011, 06:00:12 AM »

Quote from: outby43 on April 15, 2011, 08:03:50 PM

post your bank transaction or I call bullshit.

Like i care if you call bullshit,i play 3 card 5 days a week at mohegan in conn,and i average 1500 a week in winnings,so i played on bodog and got lucky,big deal its not millions of dollars,idiot.

Rearden Metal · « **Reply #16 on:** April 16, 2011, 06:49:32 AM »

Quote from: robcguns on April 16, 2011, 06:00:12 AM

Like i care if you call bullshit,i play 3 card 5 days a week at mohegan in conn,and i average 1500 a week in winnings,so i played on bodog and got lucky,big deal its not millions of dollars,idiot.

You better wear a robcguns shirt when you go. I've never seen anyone in the room with 22" guns and I, too, play there weekly. Also, you don't make $1500/week there. Very few of us do, and we know each other.

Rearden Metal · « **Reply #17 on:** April 16, 2011, 06:53:34 AM »

Quote from: JimmyJam1974 on April 15, 2011, 06:30:00 PM

This is shady.. there are other ways for players to deposit real money.

"The companies allegedly arranged for the money from U.S. gamblers to be disguised as payments to hundreds of non-existent online merchants for the purchase of items such as jewelry and golf balls, according to the indictment."

I've got to disagree. The machinations of how the sites remove the rake are relatively unknown to the public. How is anyone to say what parts are rake and what parts are deposit money? The indicator is how able a site is to pay out players who are cashing out. What I know is myself and a vast majority of my peers have little to no difficulty (and the only difficulty is occasionally a payment method is deleted, cancelling a payment and must be re-submitted through another form) cashing out.

I've cashed out 109 times on Pokerstars in 3 years. I've had one lost check which they re-issued. Later I used bank wire and got every payment within 5 business days.

robcguns · « **Reply #18 on:** April 16, 2011, 07:04:17 AM »

Quote from: Rearden Metal on April 16, 2011, 06:49:32 AM

You better wear a robcguns shirt when you go. I've never seen anyone in the room with 22" guns and I, too, play there weekly. Also, you don't make $1500/week there. Very few of us do, and we know each other.

I go mon-friday and yes i do,this week i made 1875.00.And whenever i wear a tshirt all the dealers and pit bosses and gamblers always comment that my arms are huge.I play 3 card poker and there are 3 different casinos for 3 card,i play the wind.I dont play regular poker.So dont talk about what you dont know about.

_bruce_ · « **Reply #19 on:** April 16, 2011, 07:08:33 AM »

Quote from: TacoBell on April 15, 2011, 06:34:54 PM

This was only done because the US government has deemed online poker to be illegal. Billions of US dollars willingly and happily spent playing, but the government decides that its no ok so the owners are forced into 'fraudulent behavior'.
Now we can all sit back and watch the 'justice system' and work, blowing millions of dollars so that we can sleep well at night knowing nobody is playing online poker.

TacoBell · « **Reply #20 on:** April 16, 2011, 08:22:41 AM »

Quote from: _bruce_ on April 16, 2011, 07:08:33 AM

Shit makes me sooo damn angry.

And of course we havnt touched on the biggest reason this has hpnd, billions of dollars generated and the ~~'elected mafia'~~ government isn't getting their cut.

Rearden Metal · « **Reply #21 on:** April 16, 2011, 08:32:36 AM »

Quote from: robcguns on April 16, 2011, 07:04:17 AM

I go mon-friday and yes i do,this week i made 1875.00.And whenever i wear a tshirt all the dealers and pit bosses and gamblers always comment that my arms are huge.I play 3 card poker and there are 3 different casinos for 3 card,i play the wind.I dont play regular poker.So dont talk about what you dont know about.

Post a pic of the guns. Also, PM if you're going on Monday, let's grab some MJ's steak.

G_Thang · « **Reply #22 on:** April 16, 2011, 08:45:41 AM »

Quote from: Rearden Metal on April 16, 2011, 08:32:36 AM

Post a pic of the guns. Also, PM if you're going on Monday, let's grab some MJ's steak.

i didn't think people in the states could play online?

2nd assumption, the casinos at referback.com are as legit as they can possibly be?

Tito24 · « **Reply #23 on:** April 16, 2011, 08:52:11 AM »

robcguns · « **Reply #24 on:** April 16, 2011, 11:55:44 AM »

Quote from: Rearden Metal on April 16, 2011, 08:32:36 AM

Post a pic of the guns. Also, PM if you're going on Monday, let's grab some MJ's steak.

I should be going monday,i will post on here tomoroow night if im going and i will definitley join you for a steak at mjs.Where you from?