California = Liberal Failed State

[Soul Crusher]

are you for real? Palin quit her job to chase money, she quit LMAO. she is stupid as all fuck and you support her, the only reason being she is a repub. You have given obama no credit, absolutely nothing. You are black and white, everything obama does is bad and the answer is the next republican in line. You are bouncing from candidate to candidate as long as they are republican. You get all your info from a republican mouthpiece and claim that liberals are brainwashed, wake up moron you both are. What is so hard for you to fathom that the party that once was worthy of honour is now full of crazy fundamentalist christians who deny facts and reality.

You are a reality denying meatpie.
the facts:

red states have more poverty, less education, less income and lead the board on umemployment. What else, the red states have more health problems, lower taxes and receive the most help from the government, in fact the top ten states that receive the least handouts are all liberal states. Teen pregnancy is higher in republican lead states are more religious. You can't even argue this, it's fucking facts, you assholes run shit into the ground because you support people like Palin. I can't even fathom how she is in politics, it's hilarious to me that anyone in their right mind would vote for someone who is clearly told what to say and can't even get that straight.

oh yes the low education and religion go hand in hand, stupid people need God, they can't fathom fact and science, thunderstorms still cause shock and awe in these people. I truly value conservative ideals, but there is nothing conservative about absolute morons who sign things that state they will never raise taxes, absolutely absurd.

Tell me what exactly I should give the ghetto marxist slug credit for? 

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Tell me what exactly I should give the ghetto marxist slug credit for? 

wait you avoid all the facts as usual. Why are the republican run states the exact opposite of what you claim your party is about? they are the welfare states, they are the states the resemble communist ideals. Why then if conservative ideals are superior are these states run so poorly? why after what everyone in the world witnessed from bush (the opposite of clinton) should republicans be given more power?everything this party touches turns to shit, it's all right there in front of you. What is conservative about never raising taxes? what is conservative about avoiding green energy? what is conservative about this party at all anymore? they pay less taxes but get the most handouts. Obama inherited the worst period of american history imo after bush. The wars, the debt, the mortgage collapse etc.. how he managed to get to that point after clinton's run is mind boggling, he literally appeared to be sabotaging the USA. Obama has been too impotent, no doubt, he has lied like all politicians, but to deny how fucked up the country was when he took office is ignorant.

Even IQ is lower in the red states, which makes sense since they are often of low SES. The facts refute you and your bullshit propaganda. The problem with your country is the extremists, namely the GOP extremists. Obama has been very central in his presidency, not far left communist marxist etc.. the GOP on the other hand pushed the debt ceiling issue to the brink namely because they are far right. Far anything is usually bad, the GOP seemed to have embraced this with open arms.

[Soul Crusher]

wait you avoid all the facts as usual. Why are the republican run states the exact opposite of what you claim your party is about? they are the welfare states, they are the states the resemble communist ideals. Why then if conservative ideals are superior are these states run so poorly? why after what everyone in the world witnessed from bush (the opposite of clinton) should republicans be given more power?everything this party touches turns to shit, it's all right there in front of you. What is conservative about never raising taxes? what is conservative about avoiding green energy? what is conservative about this party at all anymore? they pay less taxes but get the most handouts. Obama inherited the worst period of american history imo after bush. The wars, the debt, the mortgage collapse etc.. how he managed to get to that point after clinton's run is mind boggling, he literally appeared to be sabotaging the USA. Obama has been too impotent, no doubt, he has lied like all politicians, but to deny how fucked up the country was when he took office is ignorant.

Even IQ is lower in the red states, which makes sense since they are often of low SES. The facts refute you and your bullshit propaganda. The problem with your country is the extremists, namely the GOP extremists. Obama has been very central in his presidency, not far left communist marxist etc.. the GOP on the other hand pushed the debt ceiling issue to the brink namely because they are far right. Far anything is usually bad, the GOP seemed to have embraced this with open arms.

Again - give me a list of 5 things you think I should cheer obama for - and dont say bin laden because i already give him credit for not getting in the way of that.   

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Again - give me a list of 5 things you think I should cheer obama for - and dont say bin laden because i already give him credit for not getting in the way of that.   

i will after you acknowledge that GOP run states are worse off, if not, dispute it with facts.

[Soul Crusher]

i will after you acknowledge that GOP run states are worse off, if not, dispute it with facts.

LOL - Illinois and Cali, along w RI, are a mess. 


Again 1-5 - list the things i should applaud obama for. 

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LOL - Illinois and Cali, along w RI, are a mess. 


Again 1-5 - list the things i should applaud obama for. 

holy sweet fuck, this is the problem. Instead of acknowledging facts and trying to critically appraise your party and their motives you attack liberals straight off. I give up, you are clearly unable to step outside your box and think about the issue. Note i'm not saying anything positive about the liberal party here, i'm just asking why this clear juxtaposition exists, between reality and ideals within this party.

the fact that some liberal states are in the shitter doesn't show the whole picture. On average liberal states are much better off in almost every SES category, thats factoring in cali etc. So the conclusion to be made is that on a whole red states are poorly run or the face some unique circumstances these blue states do not.

[Soul Crusher]

holy sweet fuck, this is the problem. Instead of acknowledging facts and trying to critically appraise your party and their motives you attack liberals straight off. I give up, you are clearly unable to step outside your box and think about the issue. Note i'm not saying anything positive about the liberal party here, i'm just asking why this clear juxtaposition exists, between reality and ideals within this party.

the fact that some liberal states are in the shitter doesn't show the whole picture. On average liberal states are much better off in almost every SES category, thats factoring in cali etc. So the conclusion to be made is that on a whole red states are poorly run or the face some unique circumstances these blue states do not.

Hey idiot - 1-5 please. 

And spare me your wind bag responses.   Simply typing a bigger load of shit does not make your crap stink any less.   

[dario73]

Hey idiot - 1-5 please. 

And spare me your wind bag responses.   Simply typing a bigger load of shit does not make your crap stink any less.   

 

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Hey idiot - 1-5 please. 

And spare me your wind bag responses.   Simply typing a bigger load of shit does not make your crap stink any less.   

ok, why dont you post some more, its obvious you have no job or you have some mental disorder. You fit right in with the crowd you keep though.

[Soul Crusher]

SAN FRANCISCO: Double whammy! City warns store after Occupy protestors smash windows
SFGate: City Insider ^ | 5/3/12 | John Coté
Posted on May 3, 2012 6:30:24 PM EDT by SmithL

To the folks at Weston Wear, it was like getting salt rubbed in their wound.

The day after a marauding band of Occupy protestors smashed the Valencia Street clothing store’s windows, the owners got another jolt – a city citation notice for having graffiti on the plywood they had put up over the vandalized windows.

“It was just a head scratcher to us,” said Bridget Moore, the store manager. “It seemed there was no thought why we had a bunch of plywood up.”

The store’s four windows were smashed in the Monday night protest – ostensibly held over income inequality – and Weston Wear had them boarded up later that night. The next morning, Moore said, she discovered a small graffiti tag on the plywood.

. . .

Moore said that Tuesday afternoon, less than 24 hours after the protest turned violent, she found a city notice of citation taped on the plywood saying they had 30 days to remove the graffiti or face an escalating $500 fine.

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LOL!!!!!

[A Professional]

Yeah smoldering pretty bad here today.  70's with about a 100 mile visibility and all the hills were green.  Could a rats ass othwise  

Hi five brotherman! A lot of people jealous of our beautiful California Beach Hollywood lifestyle and beautiful women  

[tu_holmes]

Hi five brotherman! A lot of people jealous of our beautiful California Beach Hollywood lifestyle and beautiful women 

I do agree... People hate on California often because it sucks where they are.

[A Professional]

I do agree... People hate on California often because it sucks where they are.

This is true.

[Shockwave]

I do agree... People hate on California often because it sucks where they are.

People often hate on California because of sky high price of living and bankrupt cities trying to tax the shit outta the citizens to pay for the pensions, not to mention trying to tax former citizens, lol. Oh, and the politicial climate that bankrupted the state and caused people to have to make 200k just to live comfortably.

And Washington is going the same way, thanks to a massive influx of Californians' moving to King County (who try to model themselves after california) voting in the same programs that bankrupted California.

Thats why people hate.
The way I see it, the ONLY reason to live in California is because its beautiful and the weather is always nice. (Keep in mind I lived in California for a couple years.)

[tu_holmes]

People often hate on California because of sky high price of living and bankrupt cities trying to tax the shit outta the citizens to pay for the pensions, not to mention trying to tax former citizens, lol. Oh, and the politicial climate that bankrupted the state and caused people to have to make 200k just to live comfortably.

And Washington is going the same way, thanks to a massive influx of Californians' moving to King County (who try to model themselves after california) voting in the same programs that bankrupted California.

Thats why people hate.
The way I see it, the ONLY reason to live in California is because its beautiful and the weather is always nice. (Keep in mind I lived in California for a couple years.)

If you don't live in the state of California... Why do you care what it does?

Their tax rate has no effect on any other state, or did the laws of statehood change all of a sudden?

[Soul Crusher]

If you don't live in the state of California... Why do you care what it does?

Their tax rate has no effect on any other state, or did the laws of statehood change all of a sudden?

Because that jackass state has 55 electoral college votes , 2 jackasses in the senate, a large contingent of idiots in the congress, etc.

[tu_holmes]

Because that jackass state has 55 electoral college votes , 2 jackasses in the senate, a large contingent of idiots in the congress, etc.

Why does that bother you?

If EVERYONE disagrees with California, then California gets nothing.

PLUS, not everyone in congress is a Democrat.

So I still don't see why everyone cares so damn much. Maybe if your states had as many people, you could have lots of reps too.

[Shockwave]

Actually, when theyre citizens flee on mass to other states and begin voting in the same laws that bankrupted your state, yeah it matters. Cause thats happening in my home state as we speak.

As I said, I lived in Camp Pendleton, Oceanside, California. Loved the weather, hated the prices, hated the political climate, and hated most of the people I met in L.A. (with the exception of you Tu_, your my current favorite Californian, you actually seem reasonable most of the time)  

As of other people that havent lived their, I couldnt say why, unless it has something to do with other states wanting to copy their political philosophy cause its "progressive" and "good for people". Lol.

But seriously, I think people hate on it because it has become a symbol for Liberal ideals and those ideals have destroyed the economy there - and other liberal leaning states look to California for guidance for some fucked up reason I cant fathom.

[tu_holmes]

Actually, when theyre citizens flee on mass to other states and begin voting in the same laws that bankrupted your state, yeah it matters. Cause thats happening in my home state as we speak.

As I said, I lived in Camp Pendleton, Oceanside, California. Loved the weather, hated the prices, hated the political climate, and hated most of the people I met in L.A. (with the exception of you Tu_, your my current favorite Californian, you actually seem reasonable most of the time) 

As of other people that havent lived their, I couldnt say why, unless it has something to do with other states wanting to copy their political philosophy cause its "progressive" and "good for people". Lol.

But seriously, I think people hate on it because it has become a symbol for Liberal ideals and those ideals have destroyed the economy there - and other liberal leaning states look to California for guidance for some fucked up reason I cant fathom.

I would wager that they look to them for guidance based on the fact that it's economy is so huge.

Not that it should matter to be honest... It's just numbers... I think that wherever you have huge cities, it's just going to have a more liberal leaning.

For whatever reason, the population of most large cities just happens to lean to the left.

I think the bigger issue is that no one (left or right) is willing to look beyond their own face and do what is good for the country. Everyone only cares about themselves and THAT is where the bigger issue lies.

[Shockwave]

I would wager that they look to them for guidance based on the fact that it's economy is so huge.

Not that it should matter to be honest... It's just numbers... I think that wherever you have huge cities, it's just going to have a more liberal leaning.

For whatever reason, the population of most large cities just happens to lean to the left.

I think the bigger issue is that no one (left or right) is willing to look beyond their own face and do what is good for the country. Everyone only cares about themselves and THAT is where the bigger issue lies.

The economy is huge, but the political climate is bankrupting your state.  And copying their laws isnt going to re-create a private sector economy - its going to bankrupt a much smaller economy much faster.
Does a massive economy matter if you have to make 200k just to get by? (Most people I know from California moved out of state to do the same job for less money, but with a huge increase in quality of life due to lower costs of living.)
Does it matter if the cities are going bankrupt and the skilled proffesionals are fleeing en'mass due to their government?
Does it matter if the economy is collapsing under the political laws?
JMHO from my very limited knowledge of Econ.

[OzmO]

Another incredible day here.   


You fckers in shitsvile  keep telling yourself how bad Cali is, it will make things better for you.

[Shockwave]

Another incredible day here.  


You fckers in shitsvile  keep telling yourself how bad Cali is, it will make things better for you.

Ive lived there! Aside from the weather its a fucking shithole! Yes, there are some beautiful neighborhoods, but unless your a millionaire it fucking sucks there IMHO. Just because its pretty doesnt mean its a nice place to live.

Seriously, I kind of understand pride in your state, but I fucking hate my home state of Washington. I realize its a shithole, and I realize my government is making things 100x worse.
Seems like 99% of you California's live in ignorance, like your cities arent going bankrupt, like its some glorious wonderland and that you cannot imagine living anywhere else.

My school has more CNC programmer positions calling from Cali for workers, than their are people in the class. No one will go work there, not even the 2 guys from Cali. They told everyone else to stay the fuck outta that state if you want a decent living.

[A Professional]

Yeah right. You don't have to be a millionaire to live here. It's great. The women are beautiful, the Hollywood nightlife is great. Everything about it is fantastic.

[Shockwave]

Let me ask some of you Californians, how many other states have you lived in?
Is the ONLY reason you live in Cali for the women, weather and the nightlife?
Cause if so, than fine. I wont argue that. But if not, what are you reason for so vehemently defending it as you do?
So far, all Ive heard from any of you is
"You keep talking shit! Its sunny with hot chicks! Yeah!"

(Note this is exempting Tu_Holmes)

[A Professional]

Let me ask some of you Californians, how many other states have you lived in?
Is the ONLY reason you live in Cali for the women, weather and the nightlife?
Cause if so, than fine. I wont argue that. But if not, what are you reason for vehemently defending it so hard?

So far, all Ive heard from any of you is
"You keep talking shit! Its sunny with hot chicks! Yeah!"

(Note this is exempting Tu_Holmes)

Of course that's why we live here (in addition to occupational reasons).
What more reason do you need?