Jason Ellis jury trial delayed again - marries the girl

[Tre]

You can try to rationalize his behavior all you want, but the guy is a pedo.

Being a pedo isn't a crime, but he chose to act on his pedophilia by engaging in an unduly familiar relationship with a girl not yet 15.

The reality, however, is that nothing which rises to the level of statutory rape can be proven and if the only photographic evidence is of a girl sitting on a man's lap, then the state has to let this case go.

That does not mean the public has to, however.

[GroinkTropin]

Ellis is no pedo

The day he fondles a PRE-PUBESCENT girl then he will be, but not until that day.

[Coach is Back!]

Normally I agree with you Pellis, but argument wouldn't hold up in a court of law.

[WillGrant]

Ellis is no pedo

The day he fondles a PRE-PUBESCENT girl then he will be, but not until that day.

This - he is no worse than female BB's that turn themselves into men and think they are beautiful..

[Parker]

You can try to rationalize his behavior all you want, but the guy is a pedo.

Being a pedo isn't a crime, but he chose to act on his pedophilia by engaging in an unduly familiar relationship with a girl not yet 15.

The reality, however, is that nothing which rises to the level of statutory rape can be proven and if the only photographic evidence is of a girl sitting on a man's lap, then the state has to let this case go.

That does not mean the public has to, however.

Dude likes his women on the young side---but he's no pedo...

[io856]

girls and women have fathers and mothers

respect?

[pellius]

Normally I agree with you Pellis, but argument wouldn't hold up in a court of law.

Not sure I follow. If you are talking about the difference between statutory rape and pedophilia, though both illegal, pedophilia carries a much harsher sentence -- as it should.

[Tre]

Not sure I follow. If you are talking about the difference between statutory rape and pedophilia, though both illegal, pedophilia carries a much harsher sentence -- as it should.

No.  You want people convicted for thought crimes?? 

A person is allowed to like whatever they want and can even write and talk about their fantasies involving children of any ages.  But those are not crimes. 

[pellius]

No.  You want people convicted for thought crimes?? 

A person is allowed to like whatever they want and can even write and talk about their fantasies involving children of any ages.  But those are not crimes. 

Once again you are showing to everyone on this thread what a complete moron you are.

I'll try to spell it out for you again. Pedophilia - Sexual attraction to prepubescent child. Pedophilic Behavior - Engaging in sexual acts with a prepubescent child.

If the Feds find child porn on your computer you're going to jail.

"A person is allowed to like whatever they want and can even write and talk about their fantasies involving children of any ages."

Is there something you're not telling us here? Any unresolved issues and sexual attraction to little children you've had to deal wtih in your life? Is that why you are trying so desperately trying to equate sex with a 15 year old to sex with, say, a six year old?

[Tre]

Once again you are showing to everyone on this thread what a complete moron you are.

I'll try to spell it out for you again. Pedophilia - Sexual attraction to prepubescent child. Pedophilic Behavior - Engaging in sexual acts with a prepubescent child.

If the Feds find child porn on your computer you're going to jail.

"A person is allowed to like whatever they want and can even write and talk about their fantasies involving children of any ages."

Is there something you're not telling us here? Any unresolved issues and sexual attraction to little children you've had to deal wtih in your life? Is that why you are trying so desperately trying to equate sex with a 15 year old to sex with, say, a six year old?

You're the one who started splitting hairs and then claimed that 'pedophilia' should be a crime which carried a harsher sentence than statutory rape.  Your words, Tiger.

The fact that there are differing degrees of offense - age 14 vs age 6 - doesn't mean there was no crime.  I said that the state could not *prove* anything, but also that the public does not have to meet any legal standard in deciding how to characterize a guy who is known to a portion of the public.  Viewers/readers/whoever have the right to brand him as a pedophile, regardless of what the legal system says, and people have the right to discriminate against him on that basis.  

[The Abdominal Snoman]

3 Philadelphia officers, 12 others charged in steroid bust
By Marina Landis, CNN
April 27, 2011 3:43 p.m. EDT


STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Police detective charged with distributing steroids, HGH nationally
Man picked up some shipments at UPS, indictment says
(CNN) -- Three members of the Philadelphia police department and 12 others are being charged with conspiracy to distribute anabolic steroids, U.S. Attorney Zane David Memeger announced Wednesday.
The charges against the defendants, including Philadelphia Police Detective Keith Gidelson, a 14-year department veteran, and fellow police officers Joseph McIntyre and George Sambuca, come after a lengthy investigation by the Philadelphia Police Department's Internal Affairs Anti-Corruption Task Force, the FBI and the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration.
"Another dark day for our department, but one that certainly does not reflect the good work that goes on every single day by the men and women of this department," Philadelphia Police Commissioner Charles H. Ramsey said. "Unfortunately, we do have some that tarnish the badge and continue to do so and we will very aggressively continue to go after them and get them out of our ranks."
According to the 17-count federal indictment, Gidelson operated an anabolic steroid and human growth hormone distribution organization in Philadelphia and throughout the U.S. It's alleged that he got monthly shipments from foreign suppliers in Europe and China, some from a rented UPS mailbox.
Gidelson and his wife Kirsten allegedly stored and packaged steroids and HGH at their Philadelphia home. The indictment says the couple would meet drug customers, including some of the defendants, at their home and at fitness centers in the Philadelphia area to distribute the drugs. Gidelson also allegedly distributed to customers across the U.S. whom he met through online weightlifting chat rooms.
In a press release, Memeger said, "Police officers swear an oath to uphold the law. When an officer breaks the law, no matter the infraction, he not only violates his oath, he violates the public's trust. This indictment alleges that three officers placed personal gain ahead of their duty to protect and serve."
Ramsey has suspended all three for 30 days with the intent to dismiss.
All 15 defendants are now in custody. Each count charged carries a maximum possible sentence of 10 years imprisonment and $250,000 fine.

[pellius]

You're the one who started splitting hairs and then claimed that 'pedophilia' should be a crime which carried a harsher sentence than statutory rape.  Your words, Tiger.

The fact that there are differing degrees of offense - age 14 vs age 6 - doesn't mean there was no crime.  I said that the state could not *prove* anything, but also that the public does not have to meet any legal standard in deciding how to characterize a guy who is known to a portion of the public.  Viewers/readers/whoever have the right to brand him as a pedophile, regardless of what the legal system says, and people have the right to discriminate against him on that basis.  

Quit putting words in my mouth. I never said anything about what "should" carry a harsher sentence. I did imply that if Ellis had sex with a six year old he would, and should, be treated much more harsher by the law and by the court of public opinion. You don't catch on too quick, do you?

Yes, anybody has the right to brand him as a pedophile. They can brand him as a reptilian hybrid, the return of Jesus Christ or a reincarnated grass hopper.

Please stay away from children.