CEOs fired 2.9m workers since 2001 -- then hired 2.4m workers overseas

[blacken700]

[Brixtonbulldog]

the price of freedom is allowing people to do what they want.  if a private corporation wants to fire every last employee and move overseas it's their right to do so.  no one says those employees had to sell that particular corporation their labor.

if people don't like this they should elect pro-business fiscal conservatives who make this country a haven for business ops.  as long as libs destroy business opportunity here we can kiss the jobs goodbye. 

[240 is Back]

the price of freedom is allowing people to do what they want.  if a private corporation wants to fire every last employee and move overseas it's their right to do so.  no one says those employees had to sell that particular corporation their labor.

if people don't like this they should elect pro-business fiscal conservatives who make this country a haven for business ops.  as long as libs destroy business opportunity here we can kiss the jobs goodbye. 

well, we impose tariffs in order to 'encourage' companies to build things here instead of overseas.  Trump promised a 25% tariff on China when speaking on NBC a few days ago. 

I'd say make this a voluntary thing - the govt will give you a 10% tax break if you can demonstrate you spent that much on domestic employment.  It's that simple.  if you don't like that, don't take the tax cut

nothing lib about it to be honest.  it's Pro-american.  besides, are you personally okay with us growing the deficit so Joe CEO can send the $ directly to china?

[Dos Equis]

the price of freedom is allowing people to do what they want.  if a private corporation wants to fire every last employee and move overseas it's their right to do so.  no one says those employees had to sell that particular corporation their labor.

if people don't like this they should elect pro-business fiscal conservatives who make this country a haven for business ops.  as long as libs destroy business opportunity here we can kiss the jobs goodbye. 

^^^ This.

[pedro01]

It's very short sighted doing this.

Companies want employees in China and customers in the US.

It hardly takes a genius to figure out you won't have any customers in the US if the people in the US have no jobs.

The adage "don't shit where you intend to eat" comes to mind.

[Brixtonbulldog]

well, we impose tariffs in order to 'encourage' companies to build things here instead of overseas.  Trump promised a 25% tariff on China when speaking on NBC a few days ago. 

I'd say make this a voluntary thing - the govt will give you a 10% tax break if you can demonstrate you spent that much on domestic employment.  It's that simple.  if you don't like that, don't take the tax cut

nothing lib about it to be honest.  it's Pro-american.  besides, are you personally okay with us growing the deficit so Joe CEO can send the $ directly to china?

all of this fine by me, especially the 'voluntary' principle behind it.

i don't see obongo's policies doing this so anything closer would be an improvement.

[sync pulse]

People who do whatever they desire with no regard for their fellow citizens could be defined a sociopath...

[Deicide]

You can't force people to do what you want. As the other poster said, it's a company's right to do that.

This guy is superbiased. One of the leftists who spends all day criticising Bush (I would too) and no time on Obama (I would however).

[doison]

So Americans workers are so pathetically unproductive that, despite demanding much much higher pay, it takes 15% more workers to do the same job as workers overseas?

American slothfulness ftw

[George Whorewell]

Profits are the enemy and economic protectionism is the answer.

Strawman and Slapper are both brilliant economists that can articulate how preventing profits helps businesses grow.

[Brixtonbulldog]

People who do whatever they desire with no regard for their fellow citizens could be defined a sociopath...

equating this to what we are talking about makes no sense.  a free society allows people do to what they want as long as it doesn't violate another persons rights.  no one has a RIGHT to be employed, which would mean the gov't could punish a person for not hiring you/firing you.

no one has an obligation to hire anyone in particular. 

[sync pulse]

Running a business in a way that hurts a great many fellow Americans?...

[Brixtonbulldog]

Running a business in a way that hurts a great many fellow Americans?...

you're not thinking about this objectively.  what these businesses are doing are not actually hurting anybody.. they just aren't helping anyone in particular either.   

the principle you're missing is that workers think they have a right to depend on a private corporation for their livelihood.  they don't.  workers have a right to sell their labor for a wage to anyone they want.  corporations also have a right to offer a wage for a certain amount of labor.  both parties here have a right to deny or terminate business at any time they please.

no company, no matter how large or small, exists to provide a job or income for the labor force.  it exists to make profits for the owners.  sure, it doesn't sound 'nice' but it's no more immoral than asking a worker to work for free and getting upset when that doesn't happen.  it's business no matter who is crying about fairness to weasel out the outcome they desire. 

[blacken700]

you're not thinking about this objectively.  what these businesses are doing are not actually hurting anybody.. they just aren't helping anyone in particular either.   

the principle you're missing is that workers think they have a right to depend on a private corporation for their livelihood.  they don't.  workers have a right to sell their labor for a wage to anyone they want.  corporations also have a right to offer a wage for a certain amount of labor.  both parties here have a right to deny or terminate business at any time they please.

no company, no matter how large or small, exists to provide a job or income for the labor force.  it exists to make profits for the owners.  sure, it doesn't sound 'nice' but it's no more immoral than asking a worker to work for free and getting upset when that doesn't happen.  it's business no matter who is crying about fairness to weasel out the outcome they desire. 

that's all well and good,i say no more tax breaks for these fu#kers then

[Soul Crusher]

Its not income taxes causing this.  Its everything else.

[tonymctones]

that's all well and good,i say no more tax breaks for these fu#kers then

LMFAO we already have some of the highest corporate taxes in the world...

maybe we should think about going the other way?

[Soul Crusher]

LMFAO we already have some of the highest corporate taxes in the world...

maybe we should think about going the other way?

According to the far left freak show and circus act raising taxes to oblivion and spending even more phantom money is the ticket to prosperity.

[blacken700]

LMFAO we already have some of the highest corporate taxes in the world...

maybe we should think about going the other way?

nice taking point,but a lot of these corps don't pay near that rate,in fact they pay far less

[tonymctones]

nice taking point,but a lot of these corps don't pay near that rate,in fact they pay far less

LMFAO and you want to talk about talking points huh?

hahahah I agree lets start with GE, alright?

[240 is Back]

there's nothing unpatriotic about giving financial incentives to US firms to keep jobs here - and raise our GDP, etc.

I don't get this pro-globalization mindset that ppl seem to have been programmed with.