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Why Republicans May Be Skipping 2012 Presidential Run
« on: April 26, 2011, 05:45:52 AM »
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April 26, 2011
Why Republicans May Be Skipping 2012 Presidential Run
By MICHAEL D. SHEAR


Haley Barbour’s decision to forego a run for the presidency in 2012 puts him in the company of a half dozen top Republicans who have considered — and rejected — a challenge to President Obama next year.

The question is: why?

In a statement that surprised much of official Washington, Mr. Barbour indicated that he does not have “absolute fire in the belly” to mount a campaign that, if he wins, could consume the next 10 years of his life.

“I cannot offer that with certainty, and total certainty is required,” he said.

Others have offered different reasons. Senator John Thune, Republican of South Dakota, said he considers himself “best positioned to fight for America’s future here in the trenches of the United States Senate.” Representative Mike Pence of Indiana, hinted he might run for governor instead, saying that he and his family “choose Indiana.”

Among those who have turned down the chance to run in 2012: Chris Christie, the governor of New Jersey; Jeb Bush, the former governor of Florida; Senator Bob Corker of Tennessee. Mr. Christie said he could win but that “I’ve got to believe I’m ready to be president, and I don’t.”

Another half dozen potential 2012 hopefuls remain on the fence about whether to run, leaving just a handful of major candidates who appear certain to take the plunge.

But the publicly stated reasons often mask other considerations as politicians consider whether to run for president. Here are five reasons why some of the Republican party’s brightest stars might be opting for the sidelines this year.

1. Biden. If President Obama wins reelection, there is almost zero chance that Vice President Joe Biden would run for the presidency in 2016, when he would be 76 years old. That puts him in the same place that Dick Cheney, the former vice president was in 2008. That means that Republicans who can afford to wait until 2016 can assure themselves not only that they will not face an incumbent Democratic president, but also that they won’t face a sitting vice president.

2. The economy. President Obama’s approval ratings have dipped below 50 percent, but he remains personally popular and by many calculations the economy appears to be improving — if slowly. Even Mitt Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts and one of the handful of very likely candidates, said last September that Mr. Obama would be “difficult to beat” if the economy continued improving, which he predicted it would. (He later changed his tune and said Republicans should focus on the economy if they wanted to win.)

3. Money. Mr. Obama is expected in some quarters to raise $1 billion for his reelection campaign, and he has no serious primary opposition, which means he will be free to aim that firepower at his Republican adversaries. For a potential challenger, that raises the stakes for fund-raising at a time when more outside groups are competing for the same dollars, many of which, even on the Republican side, would go to congressional races.

4. The Tea Party.
The emergence of the Tea Party movement as a force inside the Republican Party requires potential presidential candidates to pick sides in an intra-party philosophical struggle. The risks are clear for some Republicans who may have to alter or modify earlier positions to get through a contentious primary. Less clear are the benefits of having that support during a general election, especially if it means alienating independents in the process. Some of the most high-profile Tea Party candidates in 2010 did not fare so well during the general election.

5. The media glare.
Candidates for president have always had to contend with scrutiny from the press. But the intense, Internet-driven political environment in 2011, when everyone has a camera phone and every offhand comment can be recorded, is enough to scare away even the most hearty of politicians. Mr. Barbour’s family apparently hated the idea of his running for president (thought reports suggest they had made peace with the idea, were he to have run). Candidates who have been on the fence about making a run often consider the consequences to their privacy if they do.
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Re: Why Republicans May Be Skipping 2012 Presidential Run
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2011, 06:00:22 AM »
Maybe because after the complete disster obama has caused - no one wants to get blamed for the mess that will almost be insurmountable.     

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Re: Why Republicans May Be Skipping 2012 Presidential Run
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2011, 08:16:28 AM »
Maybe because after the complete disster obama has caused - no one wants to get blamed for the mess that will almost be insurmountable.     

IMO, they know how hard incumbents are to beat.  Incumbents control a lot of things which can steer an election.  The bin laden tape endorsing Kerry, 5 minutes before the 2004 election... Yeah, that wasn't politically motivated?

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Re: Why Republicans May Be Skipping 2012 Presidential Run
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2011, 08:21:25 AM »
IMO, they know how hard incumbents are to beat.  Incumbents control a lot of things which can steer an election.  The bin laden tape endorsing Kerry, 5 minutes before the 2004 election... Yeah, that wasn't politically motivated?


Most of these RINOS really suck.  Obama is a pofs, a traitor, a communist, a marxist, an islamist, and an overall manchurian candidate sleeper cell, piss be upon him. 

I cant believe everyone and their grandmother is not chomping at the bit to go after him.  His "presidency" has been an abject failure by any objective measure unless you are a govt employee, a welfare leech, a radical leftist, a member of GE or GS, or some other fringe group.     

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Re: Why Republicans May Be Skipping 2012 Presidential Run
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2011, 09:11:28 AM »

Most of these RINOS really suck.  Obama is a pofs, a traitor, a communist, a marxist, an islamist, and an overall manchurian candidate sleeper cell, piss be upon him. 

I cant believe everyone and their grandmother is not chomping at the bit to go after him.  His "presidency" has been an abject failure by any objective measure unless you are a govt employee, a welfare leech, a radical leftist, a member of GE or GS, or some other fringe group.     

most of them are young.  They know they don't get too many shots at people handing them an assload of $ to run for president.  Is there chance in 2016 gonna be a lot better than in 2012?  Maybe it is.

Look at history.  it takes a LOT for an incumbent to lose.  Obama may be all the things you say, but he's a shrewd political figure... when he's in campaign mode, you may know he's full of shit, but he can win ppl over.  He derailed the RNC and team hilary, no small tasks.  He's inept in office, achieving his legislative goals thru inheriting the numbers and a splintered GOP that can't agree on anything with the tea partiers... but probably better at campaigning than governing.


Maybe GOPers know he's gonna be hard to beat.

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Re: Why Republicans May Be Skipping 2012 Presidential Run
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2011, 09:16:10 AM »
most of them are young.  They know they don't get too many shots at people handing them an assload of $ to run for president.  Is there chance in 2016 gonna be a lot better than in 2012?  Maybe it is.

Look at history.  it takes a LOT for an incumbent to lose.  Obama may be all the things you say, but he's a shrewd political figure... when he's in campaign mode, you may know he's full of shit, but he can win ppl over.  He derailed the RNC and team hilary, no small tasks.  He's inept in office, achieving his legislative goals thru inheriting the numbers and a splintered GOP that can't agree on anything with the tea partiers... but probably better at campaigning than governing.


Maybe GOPers know he's gonna be hard to beat.

i know that - but you cant beat obama by being soft on him.  mcCain rolled over and played dead.

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Re: Why Republicans May Be Skipping 2012 Presidential Run
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2011, 10:09:34 AM »
i know that - but you cant beat obama by being soft on him.  mcCain rolled over and played dead.



Especially not with the media on Obama's side.

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Re: Why Republicans May Be Skipping 2012 Presidential Run
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2011, 12:53:29 PM »
most of them are young.  They know they don't get too many shots at people handing them an assload of $ to run for president.  Is there chance in 2016 gonna be a lot better than in 2012?  Maybe it is.

Look at history.  it takes a LOT for an incumbent to lose.  Obama may be all the things you say, but he's a shrewd political figure... when he's in campaign mode, you may know he's full of shit, but he can win ppl over.  He derailed the RNC and team hilary, no small tasks.  He's inept in office, achieving his legislative goals thru inheriting the numbers and a splintered GOP that can't agree on anything with the tea partiers... but probably better at campaigning than governing.


Maybe GOPers know he's gonna be hard to beat.

Obama ain't as hard to beat as the left-winged goofies in the media would have you believe. As 333386 said, you can't go soft on him. One of the reasons some are gravitating to Trump is that he will hit Obama right in the mouth with Obama's failed policies.

IF Trump runs and continues to bash him (ignoring cries of being a "racist", ignoring the quips of "wanting old people to die" and all that other foolishness we get from the left) and just rips him to pieces using the bitter fruits of the Dems' policies, Obama may very well go down in flames in 2012.

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Re: Why Republicans May Be Skipping 2012 Presidential Run
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2011, 12:54:19 PM »
Who is skipping that actually had a legitimate shot to be elected president?  The guy who will likely win the nomination (Romney) is running.  Pawlenty is running.  Bachmann may run.  Newt is probably going to run.  Those are probably your four leading candidates at this point.  

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Re: Why Republicans May Be Skipping 2012 Presidential Run
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2011, 01:05:33 PM »
It's the usual left-winged goofies, trying to convince themselves that Obama's a lock to get re-elected.

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Re: Why Republicans May Be Skipping 2012 Presidential Run
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2011, 01:41:54 PM »
Newt is probably going to run.

LOL!  That mistress banger is just acting like he'll run to collect donations.  It worked in 2008 for him.

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Re: Why Republicans May Be Skipping 2012 Presidential Run
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2011, 02:02:28 PM »
LOL!  That mistress banger is just acting like he'll run to collect donations.  It worked in 2008 for him.

Yes, yes.  He is making millions from his PAC.   ::)